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Its best if you don't dig deeper into the kind of cnuts that would show up to protest outside a CEO's house over a football club.
Already more impressive than the entirety of Woodward's reign.It seems Mr Arnold has played a blinder. He’s simultaneously protected his family and home, impressed and engaged with the reasonable portion of the fan base, and seemingly unsettled the trouble causing element of the supporter base. Good stuff.
Why not? Arnold has come out of this looking like a hero. Single handedly fronting up to a mob who where preparing to protest at his house. He now comes across as a man of the people. One of us if you like. If this was an impromptu meeting then the best PR team in the world couldn't of gotten a better result. No matter the sequence of events Arnold now has a large X in the positive column. Something that Woodward never had. However the meeting came about fair play to the man.
I think you're overblowing the impact of this. He hasn't come out looking like a hero at all, he's gained nothing more than people thinking he came across ok. He hasn't bought himself any more time on what he had before, he's new in the job and overseeing structural changes to the club.
Contrast that to the impact of him dropping an absolute whopper, which is what this group and the media were looking for. If anything, he's lucky to come out of this unscathed.
He came across pretty well. He's clearly keen to draw a distinction between himself and Woodward and show that we're trying to do things differently. The proof will be in our transfer dealings though, and lets be honest we are behind schedule already. Hoping we can somehow get 3 in for pre-season but that seems an impossibility unless we absolutely know who our targets are.It seems Mr Arnold has played a blinder. He’s simultaneously protected his family and home, impressed and engaged with the reasonable portion of the fan base, and seemingly unsettled the trouble causing element of the supporter base. Good stuff.
Yeah I actually think these morons do more harm to the club than good. Arnold's pragmatism left them with nothing to say.Just had a look through all the twitter comments & it's just embarrassing that these people are associated with this club.
They ultimately do more harm than the Glazers have & they talk about bringing United together, yet, they can't even bring their own group of mindless racist thugs together.
He's very much come out of this on top.
Would you have the balls to go out and face up to a group of thugs marching towards your home? Considering what Woodward and Maguire have put up with recently from this scumbags he was very brave to do that.
The 1958 are not here for likes or followers.
I wouldn't do it if I was CEO no, because it was actually a pretty stupid thing to do in his position. But like I've said before, fair play to him for coming out of this ok. It's not going to save his job though if he doesn't deliver on what he's here to do, but it could quite easily have ruined his reputation if it went badly. That's more the point I was making, it's the kind of risk no PR team would take (hence it was all on him).
Classic Bottom. Well played.
The only question worth mentioning is if Arnold has come out of it in a positive or negative light? I think the answer is obvious. The most positive aspect is him trying to get rid of our Disney land status which has affected the club for a long time now and finally act like a professional club that gives the impression that we know what we're doing with all the changes being made.I think you're overblowing the impact of this. He hasn't come out looking like a hero at all, he's gained nothing more than people thinking he came across ok. He hasn't bought himself any more time on what he had before, he's new in the job and overseeing structural changes to the club.
Contrast that to the impact of him dropping an absolute whopper, which is what this group and the media were looking for. If anything, he's lucky to come out of this unscathed.
The only question worth mentioning is if Arnold has come out of it in a positive or negative light? I think the answer is obvious. The most positive aspect is him trying to get rid of our Disney land status which has affected the club for a long time now and finally act like a professional club that gives the impression that we know what we're doing with all the changes being made.
I really don't care if it was a PR stunt or an off the cuff meeting. I thought Arnold came out of it very well and gave the impression he's a footballing person instead of an accountant dressed up in a big boys suit. Of course one meeting doesn't change a lot but looking through the 20 pages of this thread it does seem he has a lot more supporters than he did a few days ago. Calculated risk it may have been but it does seem to have paid off.
“It’s not my fault I filmed him, I got told to go.”what a car crash of a statement
someone who isn’t a member with us did something bad, but that isn’t aligned with our core values
also one of us was racist, but that isn’t aligned with our core values
um… did we mention our core values yet?…
So of the 6-8 people that seemed to be at that “meeting” one thinks it went really well, one’s been ranting about how it was all PR spiel, one of them leaked the plan which caused Arnold to come to the pub and the one who filmed it has been kicked out for chasing twitter clout by another one who has also been kicked out for being a massive racist.
So it’s going well
Right! Arnold comes in, takes off his coat - body odour - takes off his hat, sits down to drink his pint. Sees the tweet. Sees me. Shock! Rescue, rescue, rescue, rescue. Remorse, remorse, guilt, guilt, guilt, whirlwind of self-loathing... and Arnold buys me a drink. Fiendish!
Classic Bottom. Well played.
Not only has Arnold come out of this with credibility, this joke of a protest group and done irreversible damage to their reputation.Like I said, he's come out of it well and he's more popular than he was a few days ago. It doesn't really change much, this will all be forgotten a month from now.
Clearly protesting at a guy’s private residence is within their core values.
Well it does say that they are a group of people who got together by chance. Doesn't sound like a tight knit groupThis disorganisation of these guys is hilarious. They all came out with differing views and agendas from the meeting and have now turned on each other. Quite the achievement.
Bizarre statement - who is this refering to?
I think it's the guy in front on the right:
Apologies if it ain't.
You'd expect at least a common goal to have been discussed, though.Well it does say that they are a group of people who got together by chance. Doesn't sound like a tight knit group
So of the 6-8 people that seemed to be at that “meeting” one thinks it went really well, one’s been ranting about how it was all PR spiel, one of them leaked the plan which caused Arnold to come to the pub and the one who filmed it has been kicked out for chasing twitter clout by another one who has also been kicked out for being a massive racist.
So it’s going well
They're the fecking stonecutters
The fact that Arnold was made aware ahead of time, I have no doubt he would have spoken to one of the Glazers to get some kind of clearance perhaps.
Even if you're CEO, you don't say some of those things without some kind of clearance from the owners I feel.
Not sure - they did seem like unguarded comments.
Nobody at the club has admitted that the sponsors are disgruntled about the protests before, have they? He also admitted that the club needs external investment, as they can't afford infrastructure projects themselves and said that they want to do "a new stadium" (a phrase he repeated three times). The latter could have been a slip of the tongue, rather than him genuinely revealing that the Glazers really are looking at a new stadium (rather than a refurbished OT), but some interesting titbits nonetheless.
Is not / isn't
Don't lower to their standards.
Nah. At a certain level, you are trusted to do your thing. CEO is well past that point.The fact that Arnold was made aware ahead of time, I have no doubt he would have spoken to one of the Glazers to get some kind of clearance perhaps.
Even if you're CEO, you don't say some of those things without some kind of clearance from the owners I feel.
They're the fecking stonecutters
So of the 6-8 people that seemed to be at that “meeting” one thinks it went really well, one’s been ranting about how it was all PR spiel, one of them leaked the plan which caused Arnold to come to the pub and the one who filmed it has been kicked out for chasing twitter clout by another one who has also been kicked out for being a massive racist.
So it’s going well
What exactly does underground group mean? And how does one become ‘in’ the group? Why the feck are they arguing about who’s in and out?
Who controls the mobile phone?
Who lets the other protests down?
We do, we do
Who keeps a pub off the maps?
Who keeps our members under wraps?
We do, we do
Who holds race relations back?
Who makes Richard Arnold a star?
We do, we do
That's because they areThey come across like a group of uneducated, inbred twats tbh. The whole thing is shambolic and embarassing from them.
My take is the only way Woodward ended there was as an investment banker that orchestrated a leveraged buyout. Nothing to do with football. No other club would ever take him as his only attributes are rather useless.
Conversely, Richard Arnold fronted and executed a sensational commercial strategy which has bankrolled the club throughout and you can feel his pain at how we wasted all that money and, undoubtedly has had his work cut out keeping us up there in the revenue rankings despite our performances.
One thing my mates have told me before and absolutely makes sense is: "Real, Barcelona, Chelsea, City... they all wanted -some even still need- to replicate what we were doing. We have been targeted by headhunters, you think Arnold didn't? You think the Sheikh's can't offer him insanse terms? You think Roman didn't try buy him like he bought Kenyon? And yet, he is still there".
We should all be assuming we are dealing with someone who 100% has the club's best interests at heart. It's better than we've had for almost a decade.