Agreed.
Richard Arnold secretly filmed whilst speaking to supporters
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Clearly protesting at a guy’s private residence is within their core values.
Kinda ironic that they’re in turmoil just like the club they are protesting about.
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Man's got to stand for something, else he stands for nothing.
what a car crash of a statement
someone who isn’t a member with us did something bad, but that isn’t aligned with our core values
also one of us was racist, but that isn’t aligned with our core values
um… did we mention our core values yet?…
Wait was one of them racist?
yeah it’s in their own statement I quoted
Can't believe the guys that got to sit down with Arnold were such thick twats. Every poster on here would have given him a more coherent conversation. Think if he had somebody a bit more intellectual sitting opposite him then he might have given even more. Could tell he was just dumbing it all down a bit and could tell they were just weakly trying to trip him up instead of getting him to elaborate. These guys missed a big chance to get themselves really good insight instead of just snippets, but Arnold came off very well for entertaining them.
Course he knew....and it would make him look like a right village idiot if he said he didn't realise that he could be secretly filmed.
So now has come out and said he knew it was possible, therefore his answers are not going to be as refreshingly honest and frank as some would like to think they are.
Who's to even say he wasn't advised by Club PR team to "make such a bold move" and meet the protesters at the pub and prepped to say certain things ...just enough to pacify the mob without throwing his employers and colleagues under the bus.
And how did he find out about the protesters....ffs is there a mole in the gang? (probably the same guy who's recording) the club is infested with them More leaks than the Old Trafford roof.
Quick call to The Glazer boys on the way to the pub... "Listen Joel, Avram you're gonna see a video of me fraternizing with the enemy, with me calling you leeching cnuts, don't worry its all for the cameras, although I'll put most of the blame on Woody & all the other clueless wankers that have left, yeah, feck 'em ,I'll use them as speed bumps in the bus lane instead.
Oh n how much we got to spend roughly? 100-200 mill.? Right..leave it with me boys, I'll sort these troublesome peasants out"
"Pints... phone camera... aaand Faction!"
P.S. Shit there's redneck hillbillies involved as well
Hurry up and get the show started Erik...everyone's going stir crazy here. Silly season indeed.
Keep the faith!
So now has come out and said he knew it was possible, therefore his answers are not going to be as refreshingly honest and frank as some would like to think they are.
Who's to even say he wasn't advised by Club PR team to "make such a bold move" and meet the protesters at the pub and prepped to say certain things ...just enough to pacify the mob without throwing his employers and colleagues under the bus.
And how did he find out about the protesters....ffs is there a mole in the gang? (probably the same guy who's recording) the club is infested with them More leaks than the Old Trafford roof.
Quick call to The Glazer boys on the way to the pub... "Listen Joel, Avram you're gonna see a video of me fraternizing with the enemy, with me calling you leeching cnuts, don't worry its all for the cameras, although I'll put most of the blame on Woody & all the other clueless wankers that have left, yeah, feck 'em ,I'll use them as speed bumps in the bus lane instead.
Oh n how much we got to spend roughly? 100-200 mill.? Right..leave it with me boys, I'll sort these troublesome peasants out"
"Pints... phone camera... aaand Faction!"
P.S. Shit there's redneck hillbillies involved as well
Hurry up and get the show started Erik...everyone's going stir crazy here. Silly season indeed.
Keep the faith!
The first protest they arranged was brilliant in fairness. They’re going to push it more and more extreme and lose most of the support they had. It’s the age old story of Icarus…or Anakin Skywalker.
Maybe not, but if they continue with their stated aim(s), then they will be just as bad, if not worse.
If you cannot see that, then you are living in cloud cuckoo land.
Manchester United clearly approved the conversation can go ahead, but it was obvious that anyone there was told no recordings would be acceptable & that the trust given by the club, was clearly broken.
If these people were not part of 1958? why were they there in the first place and planning to protest outside the guys house?
People don't just randomly show up and get invited to have a drink with the CEO if the people organising don't know who they are.
Clearly 1958, pretending they are not responsible, but they 100% are.
What's worrying is, 1958 deciding that it's acceptable to turn up to someone's private residence and any kind of trouble could happen, not to mention the fear and worry for the family living there.
If you are going to protest, stand outside Old Trafford and protest.
How long before some idiot takes matters further and physically attacks someone or worse... These mental cases exist, wanting their moment of glory, which had nothing to do with the good of the club.
If these people were not part of 1958? why were they there in the first place and planning to protest outside the guys house?
People don't just randomly show up and get invited to have a drink with the CEO if the people organising don't know who they are.
Clearly 1958, pretending they are not responsible, but they 100% are.
What's worrying is, 1958 deciding that it's acceptable to turn up to someone's private residence and any kind of trouble could happen, not to mention the fear and worry for the family living there.
If you are going to protest, stand outside Old Trafford and protest.
How long before some idiot takes matters further and physically attacks someone or worse... These mental cases exist, wanting their moment of glory, which had nothing to do with the good of the club.
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He went to meet people who wanted to hold scribbled blankets outside his house. He knew it wasn't an intellectual encounter with the greatest keyboard warriors on Redcafe.
Imagine Arnold trying to come up against me. He would be bamboozled right from the start when I order a Malibu and coke instead of a pint
But our core values are going to a guys family home to
Intimidate him.
Feck me they’re an embarsssment
Yeah fair play, they’re certainly doing a lot more than I am about the state of the club so I can applaud them for the passion. I just think they are finding out that running an organisation isn’t plain sailing.
That would certainly be better than rocking up to someone's home to protest.
There are ways to care about the club, that is not one of them.
Exactly, they were probably confused and wondering how they were gonna set off their flares inside the pub.
I think he'd have been more interested in talking with the latter though. For many reasons he probably knew to keep it on a level with these guys. Their questions and responses were just crap. It's such a big opportunity as a supporter to get your point across and they fumbled the bag with how they approached it. And yet they think they can represent the fans with their protests. Laughable.
No he didn't
Come on, own up, which one of them are you?
Wrong
Classic Bottom. Well played.
Bizarre statement - who is this refering to? And what exactly is the racist incident that's supposed to have happened?!
What's troubling is, I was looking at twitter comments this morning & a number of these 1958 supporters or wannabies, are saying about going after the official supporters Trust & trying to get the Liverpool pre season match abandoned also.
I thought that game was being played abroad? (Just saw its in Bangkok) so it is worrying, (IF) this is on the agenda & people are thinking these things.
I thought that game was being played abroad? (Just saw its in Bangkok) so it is worrying, (IF) this is on the agenda & people are thinking these things.
Sounds like a bunch of previously unknown supporters trying to make a name for themselves to me.
Wow, talk about having an exagerated sense of self importance. Trying to act like a FTSE100 company on a universal credit budget. Statement is complete waffle.
What do you expect when they use a horrific tragedy like Munich as a group name whilst acting like thugs.
So of the 6-8 people that seemed to be at that “meeting” one thinks it went really well, one’s been ranting about how it was all PR spiel, one of them leaked the plan which caused Arnold to come to the pub and the one who filmed it has been kicked out for chasing twitter clout by another one who has also been kicked out for being a massive racist.
So it’s going well
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Course he knew....and it would make him look like a right village idiot if he said he didn't realise that he could be secretly filmed.
So now has come out and said he knew it was possible, therefore his answers are not going to be as refreshingly honest and frank as some would like to think they are.
Who's to even say he wasn't advised by Club PR team to "make such a bold move" and meet the protesters at the pub and prepped to say certain things ...just enough to pacify the mob without throwing his employers and colleagues under the bus.
And how did he find out about the protesters....ffs is there a mole in the gang? (probably the same guy who's recording) the club is infested with them More leaks than the Old Trafford roof.
Quick call to The Glazer boys on the way to the pub... "Listen Joel, Avram you're gonna see a video of me fraternizing with the enemy, with me calling you leeching cnuts, don't worry its all for the cameras, although I'll put most of the blame on Woody & all the other clueless wankers that have left, yeah, feck 'em ,I'll use them as speed bumps in the bus lane instead.
Oh n how much we got to spend roughly? 100-200 mill.? Right..leave it with me boys, I'll sort these troublesome peasants out"
"Pints... phone camera... aaand Faction!"
P.S. Shit there's redneck hillbillies involved as well
Hurry up and get the show started Erik...everyone's going stir crazy here. Silly season indeed.
Keep the faith!
I know there's a big conspiracy that this was some big Glazer stunt, but no PR or marketing team would ever, ever advocate the CEO having this sort of meeting.
It's honestly hard to believe that actual adults behave like this. Bunch of weirdos.
Just had a look through all the twitter comments & it's just embarrassing that these people are associated with this club.
They ultimately do more harm than the Glazers have & they talk about bringing United together, yet, they can't even bring their own group of mindless racist thugs together.
Shouldn't really be surprising, I'd be certain almost all them are poorly educated and their go to for resolving any disagreement is aggression of some kind. Be it racist, homophobic, xenophobic, sexist or physical.
The very fact they use a tragedy and the deaths of people to highlight their "cause" should tell you everything you need to know about these louts.
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What the hell went on in only 24 hours? 
One of the most hilarious most bizzare things I've ever seen. Imagine going to protest a cause with mass support and getting yourself cancelled. and protesters now throwing mud at each other. When did the race thing even enter the equation?
One of the most hilarious most bizzare things I've ever seen. Imagine going to protest a cause with mass support and getting yourself cancelled. and protesters now throwing mud at each other. When did the race thing even enter the equation?It seems Mr Arnold has played a blinder. He’s simultaneously protected his family and home, impressed and engaged with the reasonable portion of the fan base, and seemingly unsettled the trouble causing element of the supporter base. Good stuff.
Why not? Arnold has come out of this looking like a hero. Single handedly fronting up to a mob who where preparing to protest at his house. He now comes across as a man of the people. One of us if you like. If this was an impromptu meeting then the best PR team in the world couldn't of gotten a better result. No matter the sequence of events Arnold now has a large X in the positive column. Something that Woodward never had. However the meeting came about fair play to the man.
Arnold with a bigger PR win within five minutes of taking the job than Ed Woodward managed in nine years.
He has also succeeded in outing 'the 1958' as a bunch of morons that nobody could or would ever take seriously again.
Impressive.
He has also succeeded in outing 'the 1958' as a bunch of morons that nobody could or would ever take seriously again.
Impressive.