Looks like 21 year old playing with under 15s
Renato Sanches
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Looks like 21 year old playing with under 15s
He started well but faded a bit during the season and has spent some spells on the bench. Potencial is still there but he has to work on his consistency. But he's young and he already got considerable experience for his age. Sooner or later, he will become a clear starter.
I wouldn't mind another deal structured like the Martial one, where we basically pay top dollar if he ends up being a massive success.
Thanks for finding this - against the all conquering Chelsea u21 side who won the fa youth cup and league title.
Absolutely bossed it and made their very good players look average.
His technique is clearly on show there, and you don't shoot as well as he does if his techniques poor. I just can't see how people aren't excited by this guy, those surging runs through the middle will open acres of space for or attackers!
His close control in tight spaces is very impressive as well, with dribbling ability to boot. But no, he brings nothing but energy and physicality.
Kind of what we lack in Midfield, no?
If you ask me he is exactly the kind of player our midfield is crying out for.
I really really want him. Just putting this in here so I can claim glory when he's being praised for his performances for us in the future.
even if he doesn't fully have the ability or potential to be world class (which I think is bollocks), he'd certainly add the attributes we are missing and there is no doubt he'll be a very decent player. Worth a gamble IMO.
If you also have a look at a highlight reel of Kante at Caen, they're not too disimilar in style.
If you also have a look at a highlight reel of Kante at Caen, they're not too disimilar in style.
The last thing we need is another Carrick when most of our passes come from CB.
Sell Jones Rojo - Stones + Laporte and we have replaced 2 CB's and the need for Carrick.
Then you have Fosu mensah at CDM dropping to CB to add the physical touch.
Get physical and technical midfielders to get the ball up to the forwards and let martial,Memphis, Rashford and a RW to run around causing havoc.
We have watched virtually every Benfica game this season. If we think he's worth it, the. We should sign him asap.
You see that's what bothers me the most, it's as if United fans don't learn their lessons, we have been at most Sporting games, we have followed Guedes closely to the point that he was a supposed done deal for 40m, Talisca was supposed to be a done deal to some club in England.
United will scout players, they will sometimes scout them a lot, we have a scout who works specifically in Portugal he will be at most games where wonderkids play, it means very little.
Cheers Sly, good to hear that he's continued to develop well. It's interesting that you mention him playing RW, is he playing that role as an orthodox wide player or more as a nominal starting position like Koke at Atletico? I'd heard of them being interested in him as Saul's replacement, I wonder if they could afford him though, I guess if they sell Saul they might be able to.
Four Four Two just wrote an article about him one day ago. All you need to know about him for english readers here
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...g-starlet-set-shine-euro-2016#:a6oNabye-PcSJA
And some people on here think his technique is poor.
Just as well the "experts" on here aren't in charge of our transfers. He has to be special to be playing in the CL and Portuguese national team at the age of 18. That has nothing to do with his size.And some people on here think his technique is poor.
His technique isn't poor but at professional level is technique doesn't justify the hype or the price, it's his athletic abilities who created the hype. He is talented enough to justify the heavy scouting but he hasn't shown enough to justify the muppet orgy.
Edit: Here you have a player who plays in the same position and isn't labelled at 40m.
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Muppet orgy? About half this thread is people saying he's average. Which is bollocks.
Some gimp was comparing him to Charni Ekangamene FFS.
I think they were actually saying he is a level below CE!
Not "they", one poster said it and nobody agreed, even the ones who don't think that Sanches warrant the hype. For me it's simple, Sanches is a talented 18 years old player with 5 months of pro football, he is a member of a list of a dozen of talented CM/AM and for that reason his price or the hype should stay measured.
Sanches is a proper CM, traore is a glorified speed merchant who's only rated because he's a barca youth product. He had flashes of talent at villa but really hasn't done anything of note.
Hmm, it's not the same player.
Not really. It's mostly two groups of people arguing here - one is saying he looks good, at some things, but he doesn't quite seem to warrant the huge hype yet. The other group, consisting mainly of people who've watched just videos of him, is basically saying "Stop hating, he's just 18, he's incredible and he will be a world star". Which might turn out to be true, of course, but there's no way for anyone to know that yet.
There is 2 young players named Adama Traore this one is the one from Mali, he will be world class was the golden booth or ball winner last summer in the u19 world cup
He has the potential to be world class but he needs to comeback from his injury and he needs to improve his decision making, a CM can't always try to dribble every opposing players twice.
Using 'they' in the singular is acceptable when you don't know the gender of the person.
Fair enough, you were talking about one poster.
Thats monaco troare.
How has he been this season @JPRouve? Was good in the u-19(i think) world cup but dont know how he has been doing after getting injured early in the season.
Before his injury I liked him a lot, people complained about his decision making which is fair, but since I don't watch a lot of Lille games, I never realised how good his technique is and how powerful he is.
This is exactly what has happened, it seems having concerns over his ability on the ball, the price and the fact some of us feel there are better young options out there, has translated to saying he's shit. Most of us have acknowledged he has some qualities that are no doubt attractive, and that he has potential, but I don't think it's unreasonable in a summer when we need a top CM added to replace Carrick, that some us are questioning the wisdom of going for a ridiculously priced 18 year old with 5 months senior football under his belt.
Maybe we have scouted all of them and feel Sanches is the best of the lot? It could be that simple really.
Thanks, I think he can develop into a very good box to box midfielder in the future. Is pretty well rounded as well.
I'm going to stick my neck out and claim that the reports are bullshit, Sanches's agent is creating the hype around him and Benfica are maybe part of all these shenanigans. Every year, there is a portuguese player who is supposed to have signed for either Real Madrid or Manchester United and almost every year it's bullshit, they have been creative only once and claimed that Talisca was heading to Chelsea or Liverpool iirc, and it was bullshit.
I'm sure that our scouts are looking at him, Guedes and probably Neves but I also know that they have been to Schalke a lot of times, maybe we are signing Sané, Goretzka and Meyer.
Here is some more Renato sanchez playing at youth level
Benfica - Braga starts in 40 minutes if someone want's to see him play.
Looks like a 4-2-3-1 formation with Sanches and Fejsa playing in central midfield.
Looks like a 4-2-3-1 formation with Sanches and Fejsa playing in central midfield.
I didn't realize but this is on BT Sport, worth checking it out for Sanches and Rafa Silva of Braga as we have been linked to him as well.
United scouts are at the game.
I want to make a general point about the debate in this thread.
When I look at him I see a very good 18 years old player and an above average player, and I separate the two notions, I don't assume that because he is a very good 18 years old player he is going to be a very good 25 years old player, because players don't develop linearly or exponentially, he wouldn't be the first player to peak at 18,19 or 21 years old.
And for that reason I separate the two notions, United will be buying the 18 years old player, not the 25 years old player who developed perfectly, so the price should correlate his actual place on the midfield market plus a bonus corresponding to his potential. And here is the trick, with 5 months of football his potential is completely unknown but in a year or two his development will give us a pretty good idea about where he is heading to.
People use Martial as an example but they ignore the fact that he played for Lyon at 16 or 17 years old and he was highly rated accross Europe but no one offered 40m because he was still an unknown quantity, his price only rose after three years of smooth development at professional level with two seasons where he played a genuine part to his team efforts.
When I look at him I see a very good 18 years old player and an above average player, and I separate the two notions, I don't assume that because he is a very good 18 years old player he is going to be a very good 25 years old player, because players don't develop linearly or exponentially, he wouldn't be the first player to peak at 18,19 or 21 years old.
And for that reason I separate the two notions, United will be buying the 18 years old player, not the 25 years old player who developed perfectly, so the price should correlate his actual place on the midfield market plus a bonus corresponding to his potential. And here is the trick, with 5 months of football his potential is completely unknown but in a year or two his development will give us a pretty good idea about where he is heading to.
People use Martial as an example but they ignore the fact that he played for Lyon at 16 or 17 years old and he was highly rated accross Europe but no one offered 40m because he was still an unknown quantity, his price only rose after three years of smooth development at professional level with two seasons where he played a genuine part to his team efforts.
I agree with you about him being still being very young and there is no guarantees what kind of player he will be in 3-5 years. But I'm absolutely certain that our scouts have more information about him than you and I have, I'm also certain that they are better than at least I am in judging future potential in a footballer so at least for me it's almost impossible to say what a fair price for him would be.
I do think he is one of the brightest prospects to appear on the European football scene in the last year and exactly the kind of player our midfield is missing but I can't say if he will be next Vidal or the next Anderson.
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