Bellends everywhere.
Well, tbf, if I have to side with one side then that'd be the Muslims. Those Christians look like a right bunch of smug c@nts.
Religion, what's the point?
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Well, tbf, if I have to side with one side then that'd be the Muslims. Those Christians look like a right bunch of smug c@nts.
It looks like there are aggressive confrontational feck wits from all religions. I, for one, am shocked.
The leader of Britain First is an ex BNP party member who is well known for using intimidation tactics with his 'activists'. The muslims in the video shouldn't have done things like throwing objects, but I can understand why they show hostility to towards them. As demonstrated by the clip there, the group's idea of what it is to be British/English is based on ethnicity and when they go around telling minority groups 'we're taking our country back' it's unsurprising that people respond that way.
I disagree. The Britain First group are obviously imbeciles. But the way to react to imbeciles is to ignore them. The muslims in the video looked well up for confrontation and seemed to amass a fairly large group in a short space of time and they were more threatening in the end. I can understand their hatred for Britain First, but the group were walking around handing out Christian/White British propoganda in a predominantly Muslim area. They were clearly trying to provoke a reaction. If they had walked through that street, with their crosses and their newspapers and got zero attention or reaction they wouldn't have had a clue what to do. They are ignorant racist simpletons. But based on the video here, the crowd of muslims weren't much better.
I don't see how that's disagreeing with me? I agree with you that that's the best way to deal with them, I'm saying I'm not surprised that people react that way. I suppose it could have been when I said 'I can understand' that you're disagreeing with? In which case, I should have phrased that better. I don't agree with anyone making threats as well as the objects thrown by the way.
Yeah, sorry, I also could have phrased it better. It was that you can understand people reacting like that. That was all. I thought they made the whole situation worse. Everyone from Christians to Atheists, Muslims to Jews, knows that Britain First are idiots. So for me, their reactions were just as bad.
It's cool. Obviously that video is from Britain First and will be heavily edited so it's difficult to sometimes get an idea of the time scale, but I thought in that first post I'd give a little bit of background info so that people (especially those not from the UK- I don't know whether you are or not?) perhaps had a clearer idea of why they're met with such hostility so quickly by muslims. When they're not doing this, they're out 'crusading' in military Land Rovers and raiding mosques with Bible in hand. But as you said, these idiots wouldn't have any material if people just ignored them.
Edit: And I agree with you of course that they have the right to peacefully walk down the street and give out their propaganda.
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I don't think you can peg it solely to Islam. They are just more backwards. I have secular friends who are educated but are still incredibly ignorant about sexuality and still think of homosexuality as unnatural.
It's sad, but it's how the world works.
You're not wrong. We definitely need to see a comparison between atheists/agnostics & each individual religion to get a real idea, but any number over 0% is sad, and more than 50% is just mindblowing.
The spread of the world's religions....
Im reading Heretic by Ayaan Hirsi Ali at the moment, its a fascinating read for anyone interested in the history of Islam and what makes it a little different to other religions.
Cheers, really cool video.
Yes it is, very cool video.
https://amp.twimg.com/v/3afcaae2-df9c-4183-887f-5c2738716da8
Can't embed this video for some reason but worth a click. It's saudi arabia view on atheism - spoiler they don't like them.
Can't embed this video for some reason but worth a click. It's saudi arabia view on atheism - spoiler they don't like them.
Much respect to Mehdi for asking the Atheist question in the first place.
fecking ridiculous...
@Raoul Thanks.
Backward country with an utterly backward culture.
Don't remember that bit in the Bible, tbh.
It's in there, just before the 'turn the other cheek' bit.
Trump's getting worse, if anything.
The man or the verb?
If you ever have a discussion with someone who doesn't believe in evolution a great topic to bring up is the laryngeal nerve.
When us mammals were a blob of whatever we were (scientific term here*), the nerve took its shortest route which happened to loop around what became the aortic arch. As we evolved the nerve extended in a remarkable example of unintelligent design.
And even more ridiculous in the giraffe, what was God thinking!
When us mammals were a blob of whatever we were (scientific term here*), the nerve took its shortest route which happened to loop around what became the aortic arch. As we evolved the nerve extended in a remarkable example of unintelligent design.
And even more ridiculous in the giraffe, what was God thinking!
My Dad just became a Christian, despite the fact that he still doesn't believe in God. He says that even if Jesus didn't exist he still wants to follow his teachings. Fair play I guess.
Nothing against your dad, but if he doesn't think Jesus existed (I too feel the same way), then why follow the teachings of an imaginary person? Does he follow the teachings of the Bible too then? The Bible ain't a good book to be followed literally anyway.
No offence taken. He thinks Jesus existed but he can't be sure. He also believes that there is something spiritual in the world but not necessarily the literal God in the Bible. . He says he does feel something spiritual when he's at church (mind you so do I, but I think it's just a trick of the mind). As an atheist I too find it difficult to understand why someone would label themselves a Christian if they don't follow the teachings of the Bible but from going to church with him and from what he's told me I think it's as much about the community aspect of religion as anything else. It's the New Life church in Ashton and having been there a few times I can say there's a really nice community in terms of the people who go there and what they do for each other and for charity. In addition I'm no biblical scholar but there seems to be a massive difference between the "teachings" of the Bible as a whole and the teachings of Jesus which is what my Dad seems to focus on. He's getting on a bit and he's lost a couple of good friends recently so that might also have something to do with it (although he said it doesn't).
It's not for me but I wouldn't knock it, it seems like a really positive thing for him and he's gotten a lot out of it.
Seems to me he wants companions and a sense of belonging more than anything else.
Same with my grandfather. Couldn't give a rat's ass about Taoism or Buddhism all his life, became quite attentive towards the local religious community in recent years after a few close shave due to alcoholism.
Same with my grandfather. Couldn't give a rat's ass about Taoism or Buddhism all his life, became quite attentive towards the local religious community in recent years after a few close shave due to alcoholism.
Should any of the religious "manuals" be followed literally though. They seem to be purely a moral code written to suit the era and civilisation they were in at the time, mainly because the "author" wouldn't have had any understanding of progressive civilisations and certainly wouldn't have been able to recruit followers if the people he was aiming the text at hadn't been able to relate to the contents and also find them acceptable. I just feel it's the sentiment behind the writings that should be followed rather than the writings actually followed literally.
I'm not sure it's that he wants companions and a sense of belonging, as he's already a very content man. I just think this specific one appeals to him. He hasn't exactly had to change his lifestyle much.
I agree with this. Religion for everyone I know well is not about the book or the building.
He's just looking to meet women. Christian birds are great shags....all that pent-up guilt.
Aye maybe he's looking for a threesome.
You could join him- Father, Son and the Holy Spirit.
That escalated quickly 
Apparently some christian teens think up the gary is alright as it's not really losing their virginity.