Herman is your classic top red.
edit: ffs, you can't say t0p red?
edit: ffs, you can't say t0p red?
Religion, what's the point?
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He's preaching a false gospel in this thread and my intention is not to declare him a heretic and laugh at him for it, but to plead with him to repent and follow Christ instead. But he seems to be unable to get beyond the fact that I have, according to him, a big ego.
Correct, thrown about as an insult one too many times.
Well you can be happy then that your context is better than my hope. I'm happy for you, however neither God, nor Paul has placed any limits on God's mercy and we have not reached the end of time. I presume then that your job for the day is to be out and about converting 2.2bn muslims. Surely you cannot be happy until you have done your share.
You are Hectic aren't you?
Tell me which church do you go to Herman, I'd be very happy to come and discuss this with you?
I see that and I understand what you are doing. I can't tell who is right since I don't know your rules that well, but I see that you know your shit and don't shy away from standing by what you believe in. It looks to me like you have the upper hand here and I don't think you have an ego problem.
Herman. You've gone a bit quiet.
My peace and joy doesn't rest on the works I can perform, oates. I have a steadfast hope and confidence in Christ. If I were to lay still all day long every day, it would not affect my standing before God, because I didn't earn my standing with God in the first place. Christ is my peace. I give the gospel to others not because I'll got to hell if I don't, but because 1. I love Christ and 2. don't desire any to perish.
Unless they're in Gaza.
So you're not a disciple of Jesus after all then?
Doesn't Mark 16:15 say "He said to them, "Go into all the world andpreach the good news to all creation."?
I'd be more than happy to discuss the gospel with you.
You seem to have left out the location of your church then. Be forthcoming Herman.
Christ also told the formerly demon-possessed man in Mark 5:19 to go home to his friends and tell them how much the Lord had done for him. The great commission consists of Christians going to other nations and others going home. The "going" part is what's important there.
Are you serious about travelling to my church and discussing this with me? I can tell you via pm if you are. I also don't want to break an unread red cafe rule by disclosing that information.
So get going then Herman. Don't forget to tell me where I can meet up with you will you, I'm keen to hear you preach to me in person, I feel it will be so much more effective.
Why by PM Herman? Surely you are not afraid to tell us all where you can be met with?
Yeah, I don't trust that your intention is actually to meet with me and discuss the gospel.
Now you are being silly. Why offer to send me the details by PM and then not in the open? Surely if you were afraid of something you'd not have offered the PM? Were you fibbing Herman?
I don't understand why you look for a fight over everything. I offered to send you the details via PM (which I don't feel entirely comfortable with either) and then your follow up response was one of goading when you could have been perfectly accepting of my offer. It just seems you have some personal grievance with me, rather than really desiring to discuss the gospel. I am understandably nervous about giving somebody with that kind of attitude such an intimate detail as the church I attend.
You know how debating with Herman makes you feel, oates? That's sort of how we feel debating with you sometimes.
Seems like a personal matter between the two of you. Why would he want to publicly disclose his personal information?
Please point out to me where I've looked for a fight Herman? Isn't it the other way around surely? No, it doesn't make sense that you'd tell me where to meet you in private but not out in the open. It doesn't sound very christian to me tbh.
Why wouldn't he? Should he be afraid of anyone else on here Grinner?
I make you laugh niMic? Why would that be a problem debating with me?
Yes he should. You never know who might be reading this.
Why aren't you taking up his offer and going to his church? I think he's right to be suspicious of your motives.
Sometimes, oates. Sometimes.
Still, it pleases me to see us united in cause against Mr. Jesus over here.
I don't think Herman is so christian after all Grinner, surely he should be more trusting. Why should he be suspicious of my motives? I'm afraid that doesn't make sense, tell me in private but not out in the open if he has reason to be afraid of mer.
I'm glad you've had your day cheered up niMic. Everyone deserves a good day once in a while.
If I were him, I'd be more afraid that you would send Penna over. Imagine trying to convince Herman about ghost dog? The very thought makes me giddy.
It just comes across as though you want me to put myself in harm's way and I don't have an obligation to do that. All of your comments here come across as goading and not as genuine desire to talk to a brother in Christ. I find that really unsettling and creepy. You could be an Islamic extremist posing as a Christian for all I know. Am I under some kind of obligation to give my personal details to somebody who clearly has strange intentions? I think discernment allows me to not open my home or church to that sort of person.
Surely you know that both Penna and I would be kindness personified towards Herman.
But you said you would Herman and I've said nothing threatening to you since then, merely that you be open about these things.
I have to be honest, I'm maybe doubting that you are who you claim to be, that perhaps you've just come on here to claim to be a christian.
Big maybe. Nah, this sounds just a little silly.Jesus feck.
Yeah oates, you big bad Islamic extremist.
Has Herman told which denomination he belongs to? At the moment he's coming across as a 14 year old with a sense of superiority about his taste in music who is unwilling to share his favorite bands just in case other people listen to them.
Well, I said I'd share the detail of my church with you via pm, and you immediately responded by criticising me and trying to get me to place my personal information here in this thread. That immediately rings alarm bells for me, as it's quite an intimidating thing to give somebody personal information over the internet even via PM, let alone on a public forum. I could be endangering not only myself but those who attend my church. I'd have no idea who could have read my comments and have a hatred for me based on what I've said. It's not very Christian to goad somebody into doing something they are nervous about, oates.
It's the fact you want me to make my details public so much that concerns me. There's no need for that, surely? You also told me to mind my own business about the church your sister attends when I only meant denomination and not a specific church with a location I could track down. Why do you not extend the same courtesy to me?
oates you're being a meaner, for sure
Really? I don't get that at all. He's patiently responded to everything thrown at him by myriad posters and done it in detail and without losing his rag. I also see a goading tone in oates posts and I think Herman is right to be hesitant.
Really, I'm having flashbacks to the school playground with the emo kids approaching my friend Olivia to ask her about the latest gig she's been too.