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WR said:
Pretty average tournament overall. Good semi between Ding and Selby, but the match ups in general weren't anything special.
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Yeah, I agree with this.

As a game, it still creates some great tension / drama though, I vowed not to watch when Ronnie went out, then Ding, but I still got drawn in to watch 2 (fairly) boring players.

It does seem in dire need of some 'characters' or showman, Ronnie is probably the last one standing, and even he is a bit more methodical now. There doesn't seem to be any real rivalries at the moment, and as a sport it is still relies on names that have been around for years. Is there a new maverick player waiting in the wings?

On a side note, what has happened to Robertson? A few years ago he looked unbeatable, and I expected him to be a multiple world champion, surely the video games couldn't have effected him that much!

Also the BeeB coverage (or lack of it) was on the whole, shite.
 
SammyUnited_83 said:
Yeah, I agree with this.

As a game, it still creates some great tension / drama though, I vowed not to watch when Ronnie went out, then Ding, but I still got drawn in to watch 2 (fairly) boring players.

It does seem in dire need of some 'characters' or showman, Ronnie is probably the last one standing, and even he is a bit more methodical now. There doesn't seem to be any real rivalries at the moment, and as a sport it is still relies on names that have been around for years. Is there a new maverick player waiting in the wings?

On a side note, what has happened to Robertson? A few years ago he looked unbeatable, and I expected him to be a multiple world champion, surely the video games couldn't have effected him that much!

Also the BeeB coverage (or lack of it) was on the whole, shite.
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Yan Bingtao
 
Trump should still win a world title with his talent. Being branded the next Ronnie and the whole 'naughty snooker' is probably the worst thing that could have happened to him. Trying to hard to play up to a character when he needs to focus on his overall game otherwise he doesn't stand a chance at stopping Selby
 
Some exhibition match, as no official tournaments are on until tomorrow early morning when the first *proper* (for me at least) tournament begins, International Championship.
 
It's amazing how shite some of the top players are going into the pack to split reds, they get it wrong way more often than not. Ronnie makes it look easy as do a couple others, but the majority of them struggle. Find it really weird.
 
Ronnie found most things tough against Yan Bingtao the other day! Getting interesting in the International Championship in China, quarter final day today:

Selby 4-2 R Williams
Carter 2-2 Gould
Trump v Allen
Bingtao v Higgins

All matches first to 6.

Pick a winner from that lot!
 
ChrisNelson said:
Ronnie found most things tough against Yan Bingtao the other day! Getting interesting in the International Championship in China, quarter final day today:

Selby 4-2 R Williams
Carter 2-2 Gould
Trump v Allen
Bingtao v Higgins

All matches first to 6.

Pick a winner from that lot!
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Selby.

Gould and Carter could go either way here, century in the last frame for Gould to make it 3-3... Gould is playing well, especially considering he keeps getting static shocks from the table. Carter looks off his game at the moment, lapses in concentration.
 
Yeah, carter is a feckin idiot, easy safety, goes for a long pot instead and misses it by a mile. Jesus. Game over, Gould to win this 6-3.
 
One Night Only said:
Selby.

Gould and Carter could go either way here, century in the last frame for Gould to make it 3-3... Gould is playing well, especially considering he keeps getting static shocks from the table. Carter looks off his game at the moment, lapses in concentration.
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The Trump v Allen game should be a cracker, shame I'm stuck at work. They won't shy away from any pots. Surprised Allen has got this far as he usually has a good whinge about the conditions in China and mentally plays himself out of contention although he has won 3 ranking tournaments over there. Selby probably the best shout, a final between him and Higgins might not appeal to many modern snooker fans who want to see Ronnie/ Trump snooker but for the purist it would be great quality.
 
ChrisNelson said:
The Trump v Allen game should be a cracker, shame I'm stuck at work. They won't shy away from any pots. Surprised Allen has got this far as he usually has a good whinge about the conditions in China and mentally plays himself out of contention although he has won 3 ranking tournaments over there. Selby probably the best shout, a final between him and Higgins might not appeal to many modern snooker fans who want to see Ronnie/ Trump snooker but for the purist it would be great quality.
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Yeah I've got Nightshift tonight so gonna have to get my head down at some point but don't want to :lol: good point about Allen.. think trump will do him today
 
Called it. Carter gave up basically, absolute shite. I've played better snooker after 10 pints.

Credit to Gould though, on fire when he got a chance he took it.
 
Mrs Smoker said:
Bingtao will destroy another world champion. 3-0 over Higgins now. Good grief.
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Would be really exciting to see a top young talent start to challenge the established names. Snooker's in need of a new top player or two.

Allen vs Trump here still massively close.
 
Yan Bingtao has some remarkable talent for such a young player. He is going to achieve serious things in the game. Wouldn't surprise me if he becomes Asia's first World Champion. Will Ding fall over the line and do it first? It's becoming ever more doubtful.

Well I said the Trump v Allen match should be a cracker and Allen has edged through 6-5 :). Looking forward to the semi-finals tomorrow. Selby vs. Bingtao in the final would be brilliant, arguably the best player of this generation against arguably the best player of the next generation.
 
Selby through 7-1 against Gould, to play the winner of Allen v Bingtao in the Final. Should be an exciting 24 hours now.

Edit: It's first to 9, totally knew that :)
 
Yet another tournament win for Selby yesterday, 10-7 vs. Allen in the Final. Straight in to the Champion of Champions today in Coventry. Each day a different Group plays, 2 SF's in the afternoon then the winners in the Group Final that same evening:

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 6 (GROUP 1)
Afternoon Session – 1pm
Ding Junhui vs. Anthony Hamilton 2-4
Barry Hawkins vs. Ryan Day 2-4
Evening Session – 7pm
Anthon Hamilton vs. Ryan Day 6-4

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 7 (Group 2)
Afternoon Session – 1pm
Marco Fu vs. Michael White 3-4
Shaun Murphy vs. Mark King 4-2
Evening Session – 7pm
Michael White vs. Shaun Murphy 4-6

WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 8 (GROUP 3)
Afternoon Session – 1pm
Mark Selby vs. Liang Wenbo 4-3
Judd Trump vs. Luca Brecel 0-4
Evening Session – 7pm
Mark Selby vs. Luca Brecel 4-6

THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 9 (Group 4)
Afternoon Session – 1pm
Ronnie O’Sullivan vs. Neil Robertson 4-1
John Higgins vs. Anthony McGill 4-0
Evening Session – 7pm
Ronnie O'Sullivan vs. John Higgins 6-0

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 10 (Semi Final)
7pm
Anthony Hamilton vs. Ronnie O'Sullivan

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 11 (Semi Final 2)
7pm
Shaun Murphy vs. Luca Brecel

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 12
1pm
Final
7pm
Final (continues)
 
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6-0 against Higgins. :eek: He whimpers out of tournaments in the early rounds, usually in far East Asia, but then brings his A game in meaningful competition. So would I to be fair.

Ronnie v Brecel should be a good final if it happens.
 
Good win for Murphy last night, 10-8 over Ronnie in the Final. The Rocket couldn't string enough decent frames together, he's not the long match player he once was but he's still played well over the course of the week.

Straight in to the Shanghai Masters today! Good tournament but hate the time difference as it means I miss most of it.

Mark Allen has already beaten Yan Bingtao 5-1 in the first round. Woollaston, Gilbert and Mark Williams also through. Ronnie plays Gary Wilson in a repeat of their first round meeting at the Crucible.
 
Shanghai Masters in to Round 2, all matches best of 9.

Mei Xi Wen 5-3 Jimmy Robertson
Kurt Maflin 5-3 Yu De Lu
Fergal O'Brien 0-5 Mark Allen
Cao Yupeng 4-5 Jack Lisowski
Robbie Williams 2-5 Graeme Dott
Luca Brecel 5-0 Jamie Jones
Stephen Maguire 5-4 Ali Carter
Ben Woollaston 0-5 Judd Trump
John Higgins 5-1 Zhou Yuelong
Liang Wenbo 5-0 David Gilbert
Martin Gould 5-0 Akani Songsermsawad
Robert Milkins 3-5 Marco Fu
Barry Hawkins 5-3 Michael White
Ronnie O'Sullivan 5-1 Joe Perry
Mark Williams 5-0 Gerard Greene
Alan McManus 4-5 Mark Selby
 
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Shanghai Masters, Last 16 - Thursday 16th November.

Mei Xi Wen 2-5 Kurt Maflin
Mark Allen 4-5 Jack Lisowski
Graeme Dott 4-5 Luca Brecel
Stephen Maguire 0-5 Judd Trump
John Higgins 5-2 Liang Wenbo
Martin Gould 5-2 Marco Fu
Barry Hawkins 0-5 Ronnie O'Sullivan
Mark Williams 5-3 Mark Selby
 
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Quarter finals in Shanghai, 11.30am UK time. All matches best of 9 again.

Kurt Maflin 3-5 Jack Lisowski
Luca Brecel 0-5 Judd Trump
John Higgins 5-1 Martin Gould
Ronnie O'Sullivan 5-1 Mark Williams
 
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Semi finals today, best of 11 frames.

6am UK time - Jack Lisowski 3-6 Judd Trump
11.30am UK time - John Higgins 2-6 Ronnie O'Sullivan

Live on Eurosport.
 
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Final tomorrow, 6am and 11.30am, first to 10 frames wins the title.

Judd Trump v Ronnie O'Sullivan.

Should be worth a watch! Both of them been demolishing their opponents all week.
 
RedFish said:
Always happy to see that fatso Higgins lose.

That look on his face when Ronnie doubled the black to go 5-2 up....Priceless
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Ronnie has smashed him twice inside a week now and they've both been fair results. If he hadn't been so inconsistent in the CoC Final against Murphy, he could be going for back to back ranking titles now.
 
Start of the Northern Ireland Open today in Belfast.

Round 1

20 Nov 2017

3 10:00 Jamie Curtis-Barrett v Ian Preece
6 10:00 Cao Yupeng v Li Hang
8 10:00 Robin Hull v Eden Sharav
9 10:00 Ricky Walden v Hammad Miah
18 10:00 Soheil Vahedi v Tian Pengfei
19 10:00 Craig Steadman v Yu De Lu
20 10:00 Hamza Akbar v Noppon Saengkham
37 10:00 Anthony McGill v Boonyarit Keattikun
2 13:00 Josh Boileau v Ashley Hugill
16 13:00 Neil Robertson v Jamie Jones
23 13:00 Jimmy White v Dominic Dale
25 13:00 Niu Zhuang v Ian Burns
31 13:00 Allan Taylor v Thepchaiya Un-Nooh
34 13:00 Hossein Vafaei v Anthony Hamilton
38 13:00 Rory McLeod v Adam Duffy
42 13:00 Alex Borg v Peter Ebdon
13 14:00 Alfie Burden v Robert Milkins
15 14:00 Billy Joe Castle v Declan Brennan
27 14:00 Liam Highfield v Mark Davis
32 14:00 Shaun Murphy v Chen Zifan
14 15:00 Oliver Lines v Xu Si
26 16:30 Peter Lines v Ken Doherty
44 16:30 Kyren Wilson v Sam Craigie
17 19:00 Mark Allen v Sanderson Lam
30 19:00 Lyu Haotian v Joe Swail
41 19:00 Mei Xi Wen v Jordan Brown
45 19:00 Elliot Slessor v Kurt Dunham
46 19:00 Andrew Higginson v Kurt Maflin
63 19:00 Ross Muir v Thor Chuan Leong
1 20:00 Mark King v Matthew Bolton
56 20:00 Gerard Greene v Joe Perry


21 Nov 2017

10 10:00 Jack Lisowski v Sean O'Sullivan
39 10:00 Sam Baird v Zhang Yong
40 10:00 Aditya Mehta v Li Yuan
51 10:00 Michael Georgiou v David Grace
53 10:00 Ali Carter v Chen Zhe
54 10:00 Xiao Guodong v Christopher Keogan
57 10:00 Zhang Anda v Akani Songsermsawad
58 10:00 Scott Donaldson v Wang Yuchen
4 13:00 Robbie Williams v Yan Bingtao
7 13:00 Zhou Yuelong v Graeme Dott
24 13:00 Jak Jones v Lee Walker
47 13:00 Duane Jones v Mitchell Mann
55 13:00 Rhys Clark v Matthew Selt
59 13:00 Tom Ford v Fergal O'Brien
62 13:00 Paul S Davison v Rod Lawler
64 13:00 Judd Trump v Stuart Carrington
11 14:00 Jimmy Robertson v Michael White
28 14:00 Liang Wenbo v Jackson Page
33 14:00 John Higgins v Nigel Bond
49 14:00 Jamie Clarke v Mike Dunn
50 14:00 Matthew Stevens v Leo Fernandez
29 15:00 Alan McManus v Yuan SiJun
35 15:00 Stephen Maguire v Basem Eltahhan
12 16:30 Barry Hawkins v Zhao Xintong
60 16:30 Mark Williams v James Wattana
22 19:00 Chris Totten v Chris Wakelin
36 19:00 Gary Wilson v Alexander Ursenbacher
43 19:00 Mark Joyce v Ben Woollaston
48 19:00 Ronnie O'Sullivan v Lukas Kleckers
52 19:00 Martin O'Donnell v Michael Holt
61 19:00 Daniel Wells v David Gilbert
5 20:00 Ryan Day v John J Astley
21 20:00 Luca Brecel v Fang Xiongman
 
Sheeet, James Wattana? Blast from the fecking past or what.


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Although he apparently looks more like Tony Meo nowadays after losing his luscious hair.
 
Wow Ronnie is being such a twat in his post match interview talking about the refs like that.

Edit: just about redeemed himself saying if he won the million he'd use some of it to help the homeless or some good cause.
 
Dumbstar said:
Wow Ronnie is being such a twat in his post match interview talking about the refs like that.
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He was my idol for years and years and I excused his behaviour because I thought he was a bit of a tortured genius. Truth is that he’s turning into a bitter old man.
 
Pexbo said:
He was my idol for years and years and I excused his behaviour because I thought he was a bit of a tortured genius. Truth is that he’s turning into a bitter old man.
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Nah he's still our man. Geniuses in sport don't come round often as long as they're not 70s TV stars or Hollywood actors.
 
Twat of the day would be Trump for the way he conceded. Imagine he'll be in a lot of trouble for that.
 
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