I wonder if the snooker audience know the shots or do they just applaud going by the commentary.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Ashwin @AR87 are here to discuss two "on-paper" not great results for United over the last week, but are there positive signs of progress despite what the ex-United pundits are saying?
They also preview the big game Europa League game against Lyon.
Judd has scummed this frame.
I'd probably throw the cue at him and walk out.
I'd probably throw the cue at him and walk out.
Bit of both. Sometimes the commentary in the ear piece encourages the reaction, sometimes it’s just an obviously great shot and gets the applause straight away but I’ve been to matches where there’s a couple of particularly enthusiastic audience members who are quick to applaud when a more subtle shot is played and more often than not the rest of the audience will join in.
I really like Hendry but to say the 147 was on after two shots must be something for the crowd I reckon.
Admittedly the reds were all in good positions but if a commentator is going to say that everytime a similar situation is presented we are going to get disappointment from the fans.
Hendry has repeatedly stated that the 147 is the hardest thing to do in sport which I think is a ridiculous statement but he is contradicting himself on these occasions.
Agree with your sentiments but I think 147 is way harder than a 9 darter or a hole in 1 for example.
I’ve played snooker since I was 13/14 I guess. If you game me 20 years throwing darts 8 hours a day I reckon I would get at least a couple of 9s in that time. I’m confident I wouldn’t get a single 147 in that time.
Not for a professional snooker player though as they make hundreds of those in practice and plenty of good amateurs will do them doing line-ups.
I would say running 100m in under 9.85s would be a bit harder to do
Do you make centuries?
Nah. I’ve had one break of 86 doing the line up (but anyone who plays regularly will confirm, you don’t count the line up). In matches I’m regularly between 30 and 55 but the step up to centuries is massive.
Just watched Wilson interview.
Bit of a boring bloke but it takes all sorts I suppose.
Ronnie speaks highly of him.
Bit of a boring bloke but it takes all sorts I suppose.
Ronnie speaks highly of him.
Murphy playing some great stuff and leading 6 - 2
Ominous signs for Kyren. He’s not played that badly, but Murphy just looks so focused. Feel Kyren has to win the first frame of the final session or this could be over quickly.
Not a big fan of Murphy but he’s been exceptional this Masters.
It's looking good for Murphy atm
I’m not a fan either, but couldn’t really tell you why. He’s been playing incredible snooker this week.
Getting interesting now.
I find him very confusing
That’s one way to put it….
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Yeah but how does he fold towels?
I don’t get the reference
Cracking final. Shame Kyren couldn’t make it 8-8, that’d have been incredible for the neutral, but the better player won on the night.
Deserved, Murphy played great snooker all week.
Great standard in the final, Murphy was ridiculous all week.
World Champs looking lively. Loads with genuine chances outside of the usual Trump/ROS/Selby odds.
World Champs looking lively. Loads with genuine chances outside of the usual Trump/ROS/Selby odds.
Good to see Murphy win and entertaining in the process.
So apparently eurosport is no longer going to exist from March and the only way to access snooker will be buying TNT sports package. Even the discovery app with £6.99 subscription won't have it. Sucks really bad
In NL Eurosport 1 will remain free to air as TNT
Yeah there was no way they'd allow the snooker to go behind a pay wall.
I currently play £6.99 a month to access extra snooker coverage i.e. all of the tables besides the main TV one so I wonder if that will be incorporated or remain chargeable.
I currently play £6.99 a month to access extra snooker coverage i.e. all of the tables besides the main TV one so I wonder if that will be incorporated or remain chargeable.
As has often been said, there's a real shortage of UK young players around.
Along with 18 year Stan Moody, currently doing much better in his second year on the main tour, there's also Liam Davies - another 18 year old, in his first year on the tour.
I've been following his career for three years or so, hoping he'd get on tour - the same as the likes of Moody, Mertens and Leclercq before they achieved it. Like them, he's only done OK so far - but he's already on over 20,000 (pounds and ranking points) in his first season, so a decent enough base.
He's Welsh, and has qualified for this weeks Welsh Open with two wins in qualifiers - including beating Anthony McGill 4-3 - and there's a nice little interview with him here, including looking at old footage of him aged just 7, playing snooker and meeting professional players...
Along with 18 year Stan Moody, currently doing much better in his second year on the main tour, there's also Liam Davies - another 18 year old, in his first year on the tour.
I've been following his career for three years or so, hoping he'd get on tour - the same as the likes of Moody, Mertens and Leclercq before they achieved it. Like them, he's only done OK so far - but he's already on over 20,000 (pounds and ranking points) in his first season, so a decent enough base.
He's Welsh, and has qualified for this weeks Welsh Open with two wins in qualifiers - including beating Anthony McGill 4-3 - and there's a nice little interview with him here, including looking at old footage of him aged just 7, playing snooker and meeting professional players...
Congrats Selby.
He remains my favourite player for various reasons. He's the best tactical matchplayer ever imo and also he's a decent person which somehow gets misconstrued by so many who associate his defensive play to his personality.
You ask anyone who has met him and Ronnie in real life and I guarantee I know who they say was more friendly and genuine.
He remains my favourite player for various reasons. He's the best tactical matchplayer ever imo and also he's a decent person which somehow gets misconstrued by so many who associate his defensive play to his personality.
You ask anyone who has met him and Ronnie in real life and I guarantee I know who they say was more friendly and genuine.
Congrats to Maguire too, good to see him back in a final, but the best player won on the night.
Just found out about this shit. I watch basically every tournament and this has really pissed me off. Not only the snooker but I always watch the British Superbike Championship and the World Superbike Championship too. Now I can't watch any of it ffs.
Might have to dig out kodi if it still works.
Congrats to Robertson on his victory.
Great to see him getting back to his best.
Great to see him getting back to his best.
Yeah it was a shame it was such a non-event really, only the second whitewash ever in a ranking event final.
Robertson looks to be heading for Sheffield in fantastic form but I've tipped him so many times to become a multiple World Champion and he's never done it!
Hopefully Bingham can bounce back, sounds like he's having a tough time off the table with a couple of bereavements (same goes for Jack Lisowski).
Trump's made a huge gamble playing so few tournaments in the build up to Sheffield, he did make the semi-final in Hong Kong but one of those matches was a walkover against Jack.
He says he's turned up there before burnt out and wanted to try and arrive fresher but the flip side of that argument is match sharpness - it's best of 19 even in round one and arriving having played so few competitive matches is a risk.
Robertson looks to be heading for Sheffield in fantastic form but I've tipped him so many times to become a multiple World Champion and he's never done it!
Hopefully Bingham can bounce back, sounds like he's having a tough time off the table with a couple of bereavements (same goes for Jack Lisowski).
Trump's made a huge gamble playing so few tournaments in the build up to Sheffield, he did make the semi-final in Hong Kong but one of those matches was a walkover against Jack.
He says he's turned up there before burnt out and wanted to try and arrive fresher but the flip side of that argument is match sharpness - it's best of 19 even in round one and arriving having played so few competitive matches is a risk.
Happy to see Robertson win and establish himself back into the top 16. I was disappointed to see Lisowski having to withdraw, and very upset to find out the reason why. Horrible shock for him to find out his father had died suddenly like that.
I'm quite happy with the Q Tour play off qualifiers that were decided today after the 24 player tournament. Liam Highfield and Steven Hallworth are returning to the main tour, and 23 year old Florian Nuessle has finally made it on after getting close a few times and becomes the first Austrian on the tour.
Though it was disappointing to see Iulian Boiko lose out yet again at the final hurdle. That's about the 7th time that he's missed out in the final match! And the only time he did make the tour a few years ago when he was about 16 and he lost the final but the runner up got on that year. He's becoming the Jack Lisowski of the academy circuit - just can't get over the line and always just missing out when it matters!
I'm quite happy with the Q Tour play off qualifiers that were decided today after the 24 player tournament. Liam Highfield and Steven Hallworth are returning to the main tour, and 23 year old Florian Nuessle has finally made it on after getting close a few times and becomes the first Austrian on the tour.
Though it was disappointing to see Iulian Boiko lose out yet again at the final hurdle. That's about the 7th time that he's missed out in the final match! And the only time he did make the tour a few years ago when he was about 16 and he lost the final but the runner up got on that year. He's becoming the Jack Lisowski of the academy circuit - just can't get over the line and always just missing out when it matters!
Iulian Boiko is into yet another final - the winner of which gets a 2 year Tour card.
This time it's the U21 European Championship, where he'll meet fellow 19 year old Oliver Sykes of England.
It would be nice for Oliver Sykes as well if he can make it on to the tour, but I would like to see Boiko finally make a return to it after so many near misses in the last 3 years.
This time it's the U21 European Championship, where he'll meet fellow 19 year old Oliver Sykes of England.
It would be nice for Oliver Sykes as well if he can make it on to the tour, but I would like to see Boiko finally make a return to it after so many near misses in the last 3 years.
Iulian Boiko has got back onto the main tour!
After a number of times just missing out over the last 3 years, he beat Oliver Sykes 5-4 in the final of the U21 European Championships. I thought he was going to miss out again when he went from 3-1 up to 4-3 down, but he managed to win the last two frames. They both looked nervous and under par, which probably helped Boiko finally stumble over the line this time around.
The only other time he was on tour he was aged 14-16, so interesting to see how he does the second time around.
Happy with the recent qualifiers for the main tour: Highfield, Hallworth, Nuessle, Boiko.
I'd quite like to see Dylan Emery win the main European Championship tournament (for all ages) and return to the tour.
After a number of times just missing out over the last 3 years, he beat Oliver Sykes 5-4 in the final of the U21 European Championships. I thought he was going to miss out again when he went from 3-1 up to 4-3 down, but he managed to win the last two frames. They both looked nervous and under par, which probably helped Boiko finally stumble over the line this time around.
The only other time he was on tour he was aged 14-16, so interesting to see how he does the second time around.
Happy with the recent qualifiers for the main tour: Highfield, Hallworth, Nuessle, Boiko.
I'd quite like to see Dylan Emery win the main European Championship tournament (for all ages) and return to the tour.
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Michael Szubarczyk of Poland seems to be an interesting player to look out for in the future.
I first read about him last year when, at 13, he won the World U21 Championships. And, in these recent European Championships, he won both the U16 and U18 tournaments within days of each other. He also reached the last 16 of the U21 European Championship (which Iulian Boiko won).
He's now competing in the main European Championships which is for European amateurs of all ages - so could come up against some experienced former pros. He's topped his first round group, winning all three games (though the standard isn't high in those early rounds).
Interestingly, three of the four players recently guaranteed tour cards have opted to still participate in this (Highfield, Hallworth, Nuessle). With only Iulian Boiko withdrawing. That seems strange as they're mainly playing for a two year tour card (which the winner gets), so players who've already guaranteed themselves one often pull out.
I first read about him last year when, at 13, he won the World U21 Championships. And, in these recent European Championships, he won both the U16 and U18 tournaments within days of each other. He also reached the last 16 of the U21 European Championship (which Iulian Boiko won).
He's now competing in the main European Championships which is for European amateurs of all ages - so could come up against some experienced former pros. He's topped his first round group, winning all three games (though the standard isn't high in those early rounds).
Interestingly, three of the four players recently guaranteed tour cards have opted to still participate in this (Highfield, Hallworth, Nuessle). With only Iulian Boiko withdrawing. That seems strange as they're mainly playing for a two year tour card (which the winner gets), so players who've already guaranteed themselves one often pull out.
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14 year old Michael Szubarczyk is now also into the last 16 of the main European competition.
He's having a great time out there as I said - winner of the U16 and U18 tournaments, last 16 of the U21's, and now last 16 so far in the main one of these tournaments, for players of all ages.
It gets really serious from here on in though - last 16 has some decent former pros in there: Liam Highfield, Ashley Hugill, Barry Pinches, Craig Steadman, Dylan Emery, Simon Lichtenberg. Most of those are on the opposite side of the draw to Szubarczyk, but still a very big ask for a 14 year old to get the better of many of those much more experienced and quite decent players.
He's having a great time out there as I said - winner of the U16 and U18 tournaments, last 16 of the U21's, and now last 16 so far in the main one of these tournaments, for players of all ages.
It gets really serious from here on in though - last 16 has some decent former pros in there: Liam Highfield, Ashley Hugill, Barry Pinches, Craig Steadman, Dylan Emery, Simon Lichtenberg. Most of those are on the opposite side of the draw to Szubarczyk, but still a very big ask for a 14 year old to get the better of many of those much more experienced and quite decent players.
14 year old Michal Szubarczyk has so far reached the SF of the European Championships.
The other three semi finalists are all former pros. Szubarczyk takes on Harvey Chandler. The other side of the draw has Liam Highfield v Dylan Emery, so the winner of that will be the favourite.
As I mentioned at the start of the tournament, Liam Highfield's inclusion (along with Hallworth and Nuessle) is interesting as they were already guaranteed a 2 year two card for being one of the Q Tour qualifiers. So not sure what happens if he wins it. If the card then goes to the runner up, then Szubarczyk v Chandler could be a play off for it if it's Highfield who comes through the other side.
I probably wanted Emery to win it at the start, but then I wasn't expecting Szubarczyk to do so well! I'm torn now. I'd love a final between the two of them, though I wouldn't want either of them to lose.
The other three semi finalists are all former pros. Szubarczyk takes on Harvey Chandler. The other side of the draw has Liam Highfield v Dylan Emery, so the winner of that will be the favourite.
As I mentioned at the start of the tournament, Liam Highfield's inclusion (along with Hallworth and Nuessle) is interesting as they were already guaranteed a 2 year two card for being one of the Q Tour qualifiers. So not sure what happens if he wins it. If the card then goes to the runner up, then Szubarczyk v Chandler could be a play off for it if it's Highfield who comes through the other side.
I probably wanted Emery to win it at the start, but then I wasn't expecting Szubarczyk to do so well! I'm torn now. I'd love a final between the two of them, though I wouldn't want either of them to lose.
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Michal Szubarczyk beat Harvey Chandler 4-3 in the SF, so he's into the European Championship Final.
Liam Highfield came from 1-3 down to beat Dylan Emery 4-3 in the other SF.
So we have that unfortunate situation that seemed likely at the start - with a finalist who has already guaranteed their tour card for next season. And the less expected scenario of the other finalist being a 14 year old!
As far as I can gather, if Highfield wins then the losing finalist gets the tour card anyway - in which case it takes all the jeopardy out of the match. If they don't, and Szubarczyk has to win to get his card, then that's going to be very tough as Highfield isn't really an 'amateur'. He was a professional for 14 consecutive years, only fell off the tour end of last season after struggling with injury and form all season after breaking his wrist in a motorbike accident, and has already secured his pro status again at the first go.
It's certainly been an amazing time in Turkey for 14 year old Szubarczyk! Winning the U16 and U18 tournaments, reaching the last 16 of the U21's and now the final of the main tournament. He's guaranteed himself being in the World Championship qualifiers and, I think (depending on the rules) may already be guaranteed a tour card. Though whether being on the main tour at such a young age is great in the long term remains to be seen.
EDIT: It's been confirmed before the final that he'll be offered a 2 year tour card. Up to the kid and his advisers to decide whether he's ready for it, and if it'll be good for his long term hopes to be on the tour so young.
Liam Highfield came from 1-3 down to beat Dylan Emery 4-3 in the other SF.
So we have that unfortunate situation that seemed likely at the start - with a finalist who has already guaranteed their tour card for next season. And the less expected scenario of the other finalist being a 14 year old!
As far as I can gather, if Highfield wins then the losing finalist gets the tour card anyway - in which case it takes all the jeopardy out of the match. If they don't, and Szubarczyk has to win to get his card, then that's going to be very tough as Highfield isn't really an 'amateur'. He was a professional for 14 consecutive years, only fell off the tour end of last season after struggling with injury and form all season after breaking his wrist in a motorbike accident, and has already secured his pro status again at the first go.
It's certainly been an amazing time in Turkey for 14 year old Szubarczyk! Winning the U16 and U18 tournaments, reaching the last 16 of the U21's and now the final of the main tournament. He's guaranteed himself being in the World Championship qualifiers and, I think (depending on the rules) may already be guaranteed a tour card. Though whether being on the main tour at such a young age is great in the long term remains to be seen.
EDIT: It's been confirmed before the final that he'll be offered a 2 year tour card. Up to the kid and his advisers to decide whether he's ready for it, and if it'll be good for his long term hopes to be on the tour so young.
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