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Our very own Welbeck will be a hell of a player.

Wilshere unfortunately and

Eden Hazard (even Zidane thinks he is the next big thing)
 
Ali, just here to give names lol.. not saying I rate them. He had a few nice touches against Iceland U21's the other day but yeah, he's done feck all since that screamer.
 
Ali, just here to give names lol.. not saying I rate them. He had a few nice touches against Iceland U21's the other day but yeah, he's done feck all since that screamer.

:lol: I know it's just to throw in a few names, but in five years time when he's a windowcleaner on the Seven Sisters road, the Caf will villify you for it.
 
:lol: I know it's just to throw in a few names, but in five years time when he's a windowcleaner on the Seven Sisters road, the Caf will villify you for it.

Fine I hereby refuse to provide more names in order to avoid having my rep stained by being linked to the likes of Danny Rose :D. Just realised Frimpong has been mentioned, has he recovered from his serious injury yet? impressed me last time I saw him.
 
Fine I hereby refuse to provide more names in order to avoid having my rep stained by being linked to the likes of Danny Rose :D. Just realised Frimpong has been mentioned, has he recovered from his serious injury yet? impressed me last time I saw him.

I suggested his name on the first page of the thread.

He'll compete with Song next season for the defensive midfield slot - I suspected he would this year but then in August he did his knee. He's back training now though, so next year is his year. Really one to watch.
 
Yeah hope for your sakes, that the injury doesn't rob him or hamper his natural dynamism. He is more of an aggressive player than Song, from the little I've seen - hopefully if he progresses well.. its England he chooses rather than Ghana.
 
Steven Caulker and Sandro: stick my neck on the line.

Caulker is 19, a CB, and was recently called up to the England U-21 squad. Was on loan to Championship side Bristol City this season, where he did very well and was a first team regular, but has now returned to Spurs since recently getting an injury that will keep him out til the summer.

Was on loan to League 1 Yeovil Town last season, where he helped to keep them up and got the majority of their end-of-season awards.

Two random others out of many: Sturridge, Allbrighton
 
Yet.

He'll get both. Fabregas took a few years to become productive like that too.

Or is this your prediction? That Wilshire will never be productive?

I don't think Wilshere will develop into the same player as Fabregas. Fabregas influences the game far higher up the pitch. I think Wilshere will do his best work from deeper. In any case, Fabregas hasn't really been massively prolific in his career - a one in six ratio, I believe. Though granted, his stats have gone up in recent years.

I used the term "productive" in quite a loose sense - in that he won't be an overly prolific scorer or assist maker. That's not to say he's not a productive footballer in other senses - i.e. ball retention and controlling the play for his team.

I just don't see a goalscorer in Wilshere. He's very Arsenal in the sense that he'll look for the pass instead of the shot. Compare that to a young Paul Scholes - who was clearly a natural goalscorer as soon as he came through. It's not a criticism of Wilshere - he's just not going to be that sort of player, in my view.
 
I just don't see a goalscorer in Wilshere. He's very Arsenal in the sense that he'll look for the pass instead of the shot. Compare that to a young Paul Scholes - who was clearly a natural goalscorer as soon as he came through. It's not a criticism of Wilshere - he's just not going to be that sort of player, in my view.

Wasn't Scholes a striker through the ages? And then gradually played further back?
 
They were saying the same about the half-Cambodian lad who was with Benfica, can't remember his name, back in the Gay-League now.
They also said the same about Ahmad Elrich when he was at Fulham, one of my good mates grew up with him and said Papa Boupa Dioup's chopper was past his knees...

Kaz Patafta? He's certainly had a feckin fall from grace. Think injuries played its part in that one. Has been released by the Jets now and is without a club.

Though with a middle name like "Phonesak", I'm not really surprised.

Marcos Rojas :)

Will probably be the best footballer NZ has produced since Wynton Rufer.

This should see him comfortably in the Huddersfield reserves.

:lol: I like Rojas...but he's just gone and signed for Melbourne Victory. Which will inevitably turn him into a cnut.

He's also shorter than Messi.
 
I think there's been far more signs of Wilshire developing into a goalscorer than there was of Fabregas in his early years, and I think he's shown he's very capable of playing higher up the pitch to great effect.
 
Arturo Vidal anyone? Got a wide range of qualities, very consistent, is an important player for club and country and he's only 23 years old. Not talked about a whole amount for some reason but he looked excellent from the first time I saw him in the u20 WC and since then he's played in a variety of roles and excelled in all of them.
 
Surprised no one's mentioned Muniain yet considering you've pretty much listed every single human being under the age of 25 so far.

Muniain keeps impressing me when I watch Bilbao, he's so comfortable on the ball and has the football brain to go with it as well. He's definitely one to look out for in the future - one of the most promising talents in the world right now in my opinion.
 
Our very own Welbeck will be a hell of a player.

Wilshere unfortunately and

Eden Hazard (even Zidane thinks he is the next big thing)

I will stick my neck on the line for Hazard as a dead cert. There are enough others stating Welbeck and Wilshere will make it.
 
Surprised no one's mentioned Muniain yet considering you've pretty much listed every single human being under the age of 25 so far.

Muniain keeps impressing me when I watch Bilbao, he's so comfortable on the ball and has the football brain to go with it as well. He's definitely one to look out for in the future - one of the most promising talents in the world right now in my opinion.

Agreed. When Llorente inevitably goes, he'll come to the forefront a touch more than he does at the moment. Wonderfully gifted player, and will be relied upon by Atletic for a good few years to come, before the cycle continues.
 
Surprised no one's mentioned Muniain yet considering you've pretty much listed every single human being under the age of 25 so far.

Muniain keeps impressing me when I watch Bilbao, he's so comfortable on the ball and has the football brain to go with it as well. He's definitely one to look out for in the future - one of the most promising talents in the world right now in my opinion.

He was on Solius' original list so I think that's why no-one's mentioned him since.

Have to go with Lucas as a cert. He's got discipline, awareness, a fighting spirit, workrate, intelligence...all of the possible things lacking in a young player's game - especially from South America - he's impressed me with. And he's literally beat 3 or 4 men on a run in every game I've seen of him, in many cases multiple times. I keep waiting for him to underwhelm but he's not failed to do so once as of yet.

His pace is scary, especially combined with such a low centre of gravity. His ability to drift into space - which seems effortless on his part, entirely natural - (often to make use of that dribbling) is excellent too. As is his touch, which in general is very impressive (although somewhat raw), especially when turning defenders. He's a very clever passer, if somewhat lacking in class or real invention. Despite being given a free role (off the right) for his club and played in the hole largely for Brazil u20s he's shown a real appetite for putting in a shift, using his exceptional pace to close down defenders and often nick it off their feet and tracking back regularly to close gaps. Even when his team have the ball he's shown real awareness for preventing counter-attacks, regularly dropping deep if he feels the team has over-committed while at the same time offering himself to keep the play ticking over with selfless play not often seen in a player of his ilk.

The only real part of his game that I'd say is somewhat underwhelming at times is his finishing/striking - he's shown a few glimpses of a nice strike here and there, wonderful composure in front of goal v Chile and excellent power and precision v Uruguay but he's gotten one-on one with the keeper and hit it straight at him or skied it over the bar multiple times. If he adds that to his game, which is far from a necessity, he'll be a goal machine because he'll keep creating chances for himself.

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Also go for Banega, Hazard, Coutinho, Eriksen, Ganso, Gotze, Muller, Neymar, Sanchez and Wilshire as certs to be a big success at the top level. So basically any player that's shown glimpses of playmaking quality that I've seen much of on that list. Christ. Hardly sticking my neck on the line either!
 
Neck on the line - Erick 'Cubo' Torres.

He's Hernandez' replacement at Chivas. He's basically a clone.

:lol::lol:

I've decided it. You're a chivas fanboy. He's not bad, he's decent for a forward, but not better than Omar Arellano two or three seasons ago for the same club.

:mad:

I will have to correct myself here. Cubo Torres has been quite good recently, and is Chivas's top scorer with only 18 years old. Now, I wouldn't be ready to say he is basically a clone, if a clone at all, but he is playing the 'poacher' role in the team and doing it quite well for a guy of his age.

I still can't decide whether he is Arellano mk II or Chicharito mk II, the press doesn't help much either, they are obviously over-hpying him.
 
I will have to correct myself here. Cubo Torres has been quite good recently, and is Chivas's top scorer with only 18 years old. Now, I wouldn't be ready to say he is basically a clone, if a clone at all, but he is playing the 'poacher' role in the team and doing it quite well for a guy of his age.

I still can't decide whether he is Arellano mk II or Chicharito mk II, the press doesn't help much either, they are obviously over-hpying him.

Sign him! Imagine two Chicharitos playing beside each other. Not great link up, but the defense worrying about runs in behind would be great.
 
Gonna stick my neck out here and go for Alban Bunjaku.

Think people will start to hear a lot about this guy in the next few years, he always looks like he's playing the game at his own pace. I've been following his progress in the Under-18's this year and he's a real pleasure to watch. Born in Romford, East London as well.. it's a travesty that the cnuts who run the FA still haven't called him up to any of the England youth sides as of yet.

 
I will have to correct myself here. Cubo Torres has been quite good recently, and is Chivas's top scorer with only 18 years old. Now, I wouldn't be ready to say he is basically a clone, if a clone at all, but he is playing the 'poacher' role in the team and doing it quite well for a guy of his age.

I still can't decide whether he is Arellano mk II or Chicharito mk II, the press doesn't help much either, they are obviously over-hpying him.

Yeah you're right it could go either way really. But he's definitely one to keep an eye on.


With the sheer amount of players being mentioned, a lot of us are going to be way off the mark!
 
Not one of the fashionable names, Nathaniel Chalobah of Chelsea. A very young defender at Chelsea who impressed me with his performance in the final of the under 17s championship for England against Spain and impressed me more than McEachran or Wickham.

I believe he was only 15 at the time and still only 16 now.

Looking at some highlights, he scored twice against our youth cup team yesterday as well

I think he has a very good chance of being a standout premier league defender
 
May have been mentioned but I'll pick four young Americans not named Agudelo and Najar. Apologies if previously mentioned.

Gale Agbossoumonde, D
Samir Badr, G
Sebastian Lletget, M
Omar Salgado, F

Two players that could become stars but have yet to play for the US:
Alex Zahavi, W (currently playing for Israel but has played for US youth sides)
Danny Mwanga, F (Congolese descent but eligible for US)
 
Also two young Valencia players

Isco and Paco Alcacer. Both players have been the standouts in their youth Spanish teams, Isco's even included the very talented Thiago Alcantara of Barcelona (another player who will make it big). Isco has a similar style to David Silva although he's right footed. Paco Alcacer is a natural goalscorer similar to David Villa.

So I believe both Isco (attacking midfield/winger) and Paco Alcacer (striker) will both get capped by the full Spain national side.
 
Not one of the fashionable names, Nathaniel Chalobah of Chelsea. A very young defender at Chelsea who impressed me with his performance in the final of the under 17s championship for England against Spain and impressed me more than McEachran or Wickham.

I believe he was only 15 at the time and still only 16 now.

Looking at some highlights, he scored twice against our youth cup team yesterday as well

I think he has a very good chance of being a standout premier league defender


Hes a good shout albeit an obvious one.
 
Gonna stick my neck out here and go for Alban Bunjaku.

Think people will start to hear a lot about this guy in the next few years, he always looks like he's playing the game at his own pace. I've been following his progress in the Under-18's this year and he's a real pleasure to watch. Born in Romford, East London as well.. it's a travesty that the cnuts who run the FA still haven't called him up to any of the England youth sides as of yet.



Looks a talent, this one.
 
no mention of United academy players on the brink of reserves. ginty, petrucci vermijl.

May I suggest generating a table with few details about each player, maybe even categorize them in age groups.
I had similar plans to create a Cafe scouting corner whereby each of you who have watched or have knowledge of under 19 players could write a brief bio for reference.
 
May have been mentioned but I'll pick four young Americans not named Agudelo and Najar. Apologies if previously mentioned.

Gale Agbossoumonde, D
Samir Badr, G
Sebastian Lletget, M
Omar Salgado, F

Two players that could become stars but have yet to play for the US:
Alex Zahavi, W (currently playing for Israel but has played for US youth sides)
Danny Mwanga, F (Congolese descent but eligible for US)

Najar can officially be called Honduran now I think.

Zahavi's a strange one, I thought when he switched from Portugal to the US in November, it was considered his 'one time' change, but I suppose the tournament he played in wasn't considered an 'official' one.

Mwanga still has a couple years I think before he's eligible for citizenship I think.

Michael Hoyos is an American playing for Estudiantes in Argentina and for Argentina's youth teams who could be very good.

Joseph Gyau at Hoffenheim is another one to watch. He's scary good.
 
He was on Solius' original list so I think that's why no-one's mentioned him since.

Have to go with Lucas as a cert. He's got discipline, awareness, a fighting spirit, workrate, intelligence...all of the possible things lacking in a young player's game, especially from South America, he's impressed me with. And he's literally beat 3 or 4 men on a run in every game I've seen of him, in many cases multiple times. I keep waiting for him to underwhelm but he's not failed to do so once as of yet.

His pace is scary, especially combined with such a low centre of gravity. His ability to drift into space - which seems effortless on his part, entirely natural - (often to make use of that dribbling) is excellent too. As is his touch, which in general is very impressive (although somewhat raw), especially when turning defenders. He's a very clever passer, if somewhat lacking in class or real invention. Despite being given a free role (off the right) for his club and played in the hole largely for Brazil u20s he's shown a real appetite for putting in a shift, using his exceptional pace to close down defenders and often nick it off their feet and tracking back regularly to close gaps. Even when his team have the ball he's shown real awareness for preventing counter-attacks, regularly dropping deep if he feels the team has over-committed while at the same time offering himself to keep the play ticking over with selfless play not often seen in a player of his ilk.

The only real part of his game that I'd say is somewhat underwhelming at times is his finishing/striking - he's shown a few glimpses of a nice strike here and there, wonderful composure in front of goal v Chile and excellent power and precision v Uruguay but he's gotten one-on one with the keeper and hit it straight at him or skied it over the bar multiple times. If he adds that to his game, which is far from a necessity, he'll be a goal machine because he'll keep creating chances for himself.

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Also go for Banega, Hazard, Coutinho, Eriksen, Ganso, Gotze, Muller, Neymar, Sanchez and Wilshire as certs to be a big success at the top level. So basically any player that's shown glimpses of playmaking quality that I've seen much of on that list. Christ. Hardly sticking my neck on the line either!
You missed Kroos...;)