Further reason not to publish the rolls. I'd argue it would be bad form to use that card knowing what people rolled. But then, it wasn't him going all draft junky and getting ahead of the process, was it?
Reality-Monopoly Draft
- Thread starter Edgar Allan Pillow
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Ah ok I'm going to need some time to figure out who to drop. Do they have to be recruited from the same box or can you use default criteria?
And there you go...
Yeah with the rolls already in IMO should take effect in the round after the current one, as you have plenty of time (16 picks) to declare the use of the card come next round.
I planned on using it anyway..send Edgar a PM letting him know. Haven't checked what boxes people landed on..but picked a card that would effect most people without screwing those that have already dropped players (I think)
Why's it my fault you guys can't wait to get your rolls at the end of the round when you're supposed to? My 8 hours aren't even up for my pick.
People were asking for their roll after the second pick of the round.
Think Edgar said it has to be public in the thread, but is his(and yours) call anyway so let's wait for him to come back
not your fault mate, saw couple of alerts and when I browsed through the thread I saw that they were already posted so thought we are carrying on.
Good pick that. Many leagues follow that system. The Apertura is basically the first part of the roundrobin and the Clausura the inverse (H if A before and viceversa). The aggregate table is what you would call the league anywhere else.
It isn't, you're well within your rights
Absolutely not your fault.
Hate you anyway
The one time I pick this formidable defender... Good thing my men don't go to the dropped list. Or not. I don't want anyone else to have him now It makes more sense for me to use the card later anyway as otherwise it gives some managers an advantage over others. If I announced it early then some managers could make a "dummy pick" to prepare,whereas all the ones who already picked would just be screwed.
Absolutely not your fault.
Hate you anyway
That's what you get for not wanting to partner up and become perennial losers
@Skizzo is it just a drop or do i also have to pick somebody?
All that being said, it's @Edgar Allan Pillow's world..so if he wants to push it back a round due to the timing of my announcement, it's fine by me!
I think you drop, and then pick a player from the same category as who you dropped.
Think it depends on how you read the card. Even if it is before the rolls, when everybody has picked is the same round that takes effect - so essentially round 4 is over as everyone has already picked.
Depends on how Ed wanted this card to go and the damage it would cause(in a sense if people can prepare for it or not). Judging by the damage it would cause to most managers I'd assume is the former.
My team was going to be awesomeThat's what you get for not wanting to partner up and become perennial losers
It should be this round imo. Otherwise everyone can just pick up a WC winner this round just to drop them the next.
The round wasn't over since he hadn't picked yet.Think it depends on how you read the card. Even if it is before the rolls, when everybody has picked is the same round that takes effect - so essentially round 4 is over as everyone has already picked.
Depends on how Ed wanted this card to go and the damage it would cause(in a sense if people can prepare for it or not). Judging by the damage it would cause to most managers I'd assume is the former.
You replace the player you drop with someone from the same box - who has not won the WC.
E.g. You drop Messadona, WC winner picked up in box 99 and replace him with NN, who qualifies for box 99 and has not won the WC.
Yeah but he'd let those in front of him pick and then decide if he wants to use it which is a bit sneaky.
Yeah but he'd let those in front of him pick and then decide if he wants to use it which is a bit sneaky.
If i play it on my actual turn, then the 5 managers still to pick get to plan for it whereas @Chesterlestreet or a manager near the bottom wouldn't get that advantage. So it's either sneaky or equal treatment
That's not how @Edgar Allan Pillow explained it to me. I asked specifically about that and he said you re pick a player from the dropped players category.
Chester is right
Yeah but he'd let those in front of him pick and then decide if he wants to use it which is a bit sneaky.
Tbf, there has to be some upside to the card - it ain't a sheer plus/bonus card per se.
1. I have published the rolls but not the roll of Skizzo. Maybe a mistake.
2. My understanding is that EAP decided to let managers know their rolls in advance to speed up the process on the assumption that some boxes are time-consuming.
2. My understanding is that EAP decided to let managers know their rolls in advance to speed up the process on the assumption that some boxes are time-consuming.
That's fine if he is
I'm just saying I asked that specific question to Edgar and he gave me a different answer.Isn't that what I said?
You drop X, who was recruited by Fergie - and replace him w/ another player who was recruited by Fergie but who did not win the WC (or whatever the drop qualification is).
That's fine if he is
What was his answer?
If i play it on my actual turn, then the 5 managers still to pick get to plan for it whereas @Chesterlestreet or a manager near the bottom wouldn't get that advantage. So it's either sneaky or equal treatment
Depends on how do you read the next round effect of the card. If you use it in the beginning of the round it's the same round actually - end of Round 4 - beginning of Round 5.
Either way as I've said let's see what Edgar decides.
i was questioning whether the latter part was relevant since it wasn't mentioned when I asked. Since it was a penalty card as opposed to the box, I didn't know if Edgar was keeping it somewhat relaxed as to just pick a replacement from the same box without the WC clause.
Not sneaky. In fact, fairer. If it were up to me I'd say he has to tell the mod so they roll, let people get giddy with their boxes, then BOOM!Yeah but he'd let those in front of him pick and then decide if he wants to use it which is a bit sneaky.
The only problem here was the rolls being published before the end of the turn, and that isn't his fault.
See my next response to Chester. He said the same thing, replace from the same box as dropped player, but he didn't mention that it needed to still meet the WC criteria. That may have been assumed on his part so he didn't feel the need to mention it again, or it may be slightly tweaked since it's a card as opposed to specifically one person landing on the box.
Do you mean his decision was influenced by the rolls of the other managers?
The problem is you have someone out there with a card who can use it whenever he feels like it. That one person shouldn't know rolls in advance, neither his nor those of other people. Everyone else, there's no problem them knowing them privately once they have picked.
Simples.
What I meant is that you'd have 4 more picks to decide on which out of the 4 boxes he could use to get the most damage.
But yeah, agree on the rolls, if P-nut made his pick straight away he could've avoided losing Goofy.
Either way I'll let you guys iron it out.
My understanding. Card saying ' remove wc winner'
Maradona comes from the box Napoli >>> Maradona out and you take a Napoli player who hasn't won the WC
He probably didn't mention that bit because you had four possible options. My understanding of the mechanics is you drop WC/CL/Skizzo/Pat and repick from the category you picked that player in but without falling foul of the drop condition (i.e. WC/CL/Skizzo/Pat).
Having second thoughts about using this?