Real Madrid's Ronaldo replacement

ravi2 said:
I think the 2 most gettable names are Hazard and Lewa, the both of them combined should compensate for Ronaldo's goals dont you think?
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It could be, but Lewandowski is not as exciting as he was years ago.
We invest in Vinicius, Rodrygo, Odegaard, Ceballos to fight against the market and then we give Cristiano's money for a striker who is on his way to 30. Personally I do not see it normal. It should be a more adjusted price, like Van Nistelrooy years ago.
I think the signing is also a matter of prestige / sponsors / media presence / fan enthusiasm.
From the best players in the world, Messi, Cristiano, Neymar, Mbappé or the best forward, Kane, Madrid would not have any.
 
Alfie092 said:
Hmm not sure about that, maybe. I think at best we would have won another 2 more Champions Leagues, maybe 3 over the past decade. So still well short of Madrid's overall European trophy haul.
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Still well short but 2 more Champions Leagues is nothing to laugh at
 
Nostradamus said:
Whats that nonsense with saying Lewandowski is gettable? Bayern have ruled out any possibility for that to happen..tjere is no chance..simple.
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He isnt happy there anymore. Factor that into it and anything is possible.
No club wants to keep an unhappy player plus Lewa always wanted to play for Madrid
 
ravi2 said:
He isnt happy there anymore. Factor that into it and anything is possible.
No club wants to keep an unhappy player plus Lewa always wanted to play for Madrid
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When Bayern say that they wont sell Lewandowski under any circumstances and that Rummenigge will take bets on Lewa staying, then it means that Lewa is staying..end of story.
 
Alfie092 said:
Exactly. Plus we would be level at the very least with the Scousers!
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Its not only that.
If squad investment was constant over the years then Jose wouldnt be in the position that he had to overhaul almost the entire squad to get us back to being competitive.
 
Will be interesting so see how they go about replacing him.
Ronny and Messi are miles ahead of everyone else, there isn’t a single player that could guarantee the goals return that Ronny gave them.
Neymar was a joke at the World Cup and not fit to lace his Boots .
I went from dreaming that United could shock the world and buy him to hoping we never ever even try after his histrionics.
The only one with a chance of having the same impact would be mbappe and I wouldn’t bet against that happening
 
They say Neymar is Florentino's obsession. He is the only player out there who can reach Ronaldo/Messi level commercially so I guess that's why Flo wants him so much.

I can't see us signing him this summer, but I also can't see us going into next season without one big signing.

Asensio will be in starting 11. Bale always played better without Ronaldo so I think he will step up and hopefully with better injury record have a great season. I can see us going for Hazard and playing Bale, Asensio and Hazard as front 3.

Dybala is a good choice but he probably won't be the one leaving Juventus.
 
Apparently Fellaini, Lindelof and Rojo had good world cups. Madrid could afford all 3 with 100 million euros what a bargain.
 
The scary thing is there are very few superstar world class players out there , the likes of mbappe, Neymar , Messi , hazard all game changers in the past we would have been all over them but now we are merely also rans we have fallen so far behind the super clubs and unless we win the lge this year our seat at the super club table will finally be taken away from us
 
Carolina Red said:
You’re right. But the guy who posted it could have just said that and left the nationality out.
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My thoughts exactly. Truth is there is this weird narrative in football that all American owners are inherently evil and always out suck clubs dry.
 
Neymar, Hazard, Salah or Mbappe

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Kane, Lewandowski, Cavani or Icardi
 
Fer said:
Neymar, Hazard, Salah or Mbappe

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Kane, Lewandowski, Cavani or Icardi
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You mention all these names, but surely it is how they fit in at Madrid that matters, unless the team is built around them, which I seriously doubt. Salah, for instance has been great this season, but not before & struggled at the World Cup in a pedestrian Egypt Team. Kane plays great in a Spurs team set up for him, but how would he perform elsewhere. Neymar is rated world class for what he did at Barcelona, but had a great team there, & was only third best striker. At the world cup he was poor, & so indulged likes the whole team around him, which is unlikely to happen at Madrid. Mbappe has been great in the French league, but would he perform to same in Spain. The others similarly. Personally I think the best fit is Hazard, but not as a main goalscorer as he is not prolific enough, so with him they would need someone else.

Interesting times ahead for Real Madrid.
 
Hazard doesn't have the mentality for Madrid, especially as a replacement for Ronaldo. Too early for Mbappe, and Neymar is such a circus act he could destabilize the club.
 
Mbappe is the guy they'll want bu I think they'll end up with Hazard. Not a chance of getting Kane this year (possibly next if Spurs win nothing)
 
Hazard would seem the most feasible, but realistically, can he replace Ronaldo's goals and is he a bit too similar to Isco in such a set-up?
 
Hazard can't replace Ronaldo's goals, but you won't be able to find a like for like replacement for him. As of right now Hazard plus a world class striker is the obvious way to go.

But I'm not sure how I could see Hazard at Madrid for, could see him easily falling behind in the pecking order and pushed aside for another superstar fairly quickly.
 
Its not gonna be Neymar, that saga would go on for months - they don't have time this summer.

I reckon they make a sudden, big bid for Hazard that gets accepted.
 
I don't think Hazard will go. He likes it at Chelsea and only wants them to play good football again. That is surely happening now they got Sarri and the likes of Jorginho and Golovin.

Plus I could easily see Courtois leave to replace Navas and don't think it's probable Chelsea will sell their two best players to Real.

Real has to replace his goals through a better CF, but have enough players for the flanks.

In the 433

4 at the back
Casemiro
Modric Kroos
Bale CF Isco

Keep in mind the new manager Lopetegui has a hard on for Isco and Isco had his best performances during the time with him.

There are Bale and Vazquez for the left and Isco and Asensio for the right. Only if Bale gets sold, a new gap will open.
 
Powderfinger said:
They probably want Neymar but that has to be a very complex and difficult deal because his move to PSG was reportedly tied up in his agreement to become an ambassador for the 2022 World Cup. Qatar wasn’t just paying Neymar to play for PSG, but to build the brand of their country and the event. Do they get the same value in that regard if he’s playing for Real Madrid (not owned by Qatar)? Maybe, but maybe not.
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I think the whole "ambassador" thing with Neymar was probably some voodoo accounting thing either for tax reasons or to try and manipulate FFP figures.

As others have stated - if PSG WANT to keep hold of Neymar then they will do so. However I can see that we may have reached a point where PSG MIGHT be recalculating his value to the team....

Positives
Goals Scored
Impact on the pitch
"Prestige" of having player in team
Global Marketing opportunities

Negatives
Personal attitude / mental health
Effect on team morale when cherry picking games
Laughing stock due to diving antics
Has he peaked too early
Agent / contract wrangles
Could he begin to create a negative image / lose marketing opportunities

Only PSG can truly put a value against these positives and negatives so they could still say the positives massively outweigh the negative. However middle eastern business types don't like being told "No" and don't like people messing them around. They tend to slap down hard or offload very quickly if they see such behaviour. Ronaldo has always created a public narrative of "drama" but behind closed doors been a model professional when it comes to training and dedication. Given the rumours about his fathers activities, I think Neymar and his entourage may well create other "distractions" that cost PSG a lot of time and money to manage the news or clear up the aftermath.

All of these sort of things can get indulged and covered up while someone is seen to be on a "rise to the top" but if anyone at psg is beginning to get tired or feeling "is that it" about Neymar, then his goose may be closer to being cooked than we all might think!
 
mitchmouse said:
Mbappe is the guy they'll want bu I think they'll end up with Hazard. Not a chance of getting Kane this year (possibly next if Spurs win nothing)
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I think Madrid can get Kane if they wanted it bad enough (ie. offered enough money to Levy).
Kane would be given a bumper pay rise and would get to live in Spain. Unless there was something mentally wrong with him, he would not say no.
The issue is whether or not Madrid have the finances to pull it off.
 
I think Madrid have made a ricket.....There's only one Ronaldo..!!
 
Sing you a song said:
The scary thing is there are very few superstar world class players out there , the likes of mbappe, Neymar , Messi , hazard all game changers in the past we would have been all over them but now we are merely also rans we have fallen so far behind the super clubs and unless we win the lge this year our seat at the super club table will finally be taken away from us
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Can you clarify the "super club" thing, highlighted in bold?
 
Wouldn't be surprised if they spend their money in midfield. Pogba?
 
MikeUpNorth said:
Wouldn't be surprised if they spend their money in midfield. Pogba?
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Woul .lve it but realiable sources are saying milinkovic. Meh i'd swap Kroos for Pogba personally, but i doubt Florentino would
 
MikeUpNorth said:
Wouldn't be surprised if they spend their money in midfield. Pogba?
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Precisely the thought that I just had, although the fee for Pogba would surely eat up all of the Ronaldo funds, and Madrid would still need to find the 40 goals a season that Ronaldo provides.
 
Ikon said:
Precisely the thought that I just had, although the fee for Pogba would surely eat up all of the Ronaldo funds, and Madrid would still need to find the 40 goals a season that Ronaldo provides.
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Pobga provides a bit of the marketability and starpower that Real lost when they sold Ronaldo.
They have money to burn and can easily afford Hazard on top of that.

The problem is fitting Pogba, Modric and Kroos in the same midfield. Either Kroos or Modric would have to go.
 
Pogba is better than Savic but would cost considerably more. Which makes me think they'll get Savic because Madrid have to rebuild the team.
 
If I was Madrid I’d just pass on Neymar. Even if they could get him I just don’t think he’s worth the hassle.

Hazard and Lewandowski, or people of that nature, to replace some of the goals and add more creativity.
 
Heard that De Bruyne guy is pretty good, they should buy him.

Oh, i forgot that no matter how good City's players are, Barca, Real or PSG are never in for them.
 
ravi2 said:
Pobga provides a bit of the marketability and starpower that Real lost when they sold Ronaldo.
They have money to burn and can easily afford Hazard on top of that.

The problem is fitting Pogba, Modric and Kroos in the same midfield. Either Kroos or Modric would have to go.
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Modric is 32 now (still playing incredibly well) although you would think that Isco or Asensio would become his eventual replacement.

It still hurts we never signed Modric, I recall people at the time saying he wasn’t good enough and look at his assist and goal stats. The guy was awesome for Spurs and then went up a gear for Real.

Although I’m still wagering on Hazard with Bale becoming the hybrid striker or maybe a cheeky bid for Aguero thrown in as well just for good measure.
 
Took the liberty of moving this discussion on whether or not Marcelo would be sold to here, instead of in the Sandro thread:

United Pro said:
Yeah I reckon they'll perhaps sell Kovacic as well, but apart from that they really shouldn't be changing the squad that's just won 3 CL's in a row too much.
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If they sell him it will probably be because he is demanding to play. But I actually do think this is the end of the road for a lot of them, they need to freshen up and I don't expect them to carry on as normal. Ronaldo leaving has completely changed how they'll set up. The only older players I can't see them willing to sell under any circumstances are Modric and Ramos.

I could see them entertain bids for Kroos, Benzema and Bale. Marcelo is a stretch (unless they'd get a crazy fee). I think we'll see a relatively efficient rebuild that won't take longer than 2 seasons. Their president's ass is on the line.
 
Bastian said:
Took the liberty of moving this discussion on whether or not Marcelo would be sold to here, instead of in the Sandro thread:



If they sell him it will probably be because he is demanding to play. But I actually do think this is the end of the road for a lot of them, they need to freshen up and I don't expect them to carry on as normal. Ronaldo leaving has completely changed how they'll set up. The only older players I can't see them willing to sell under any circumstances are Modric and Ramos.

I could see them entertain bids for Kroos, Benzema and Bale. Marcelo is a stretch (unless they'd get a crazy fee). I think we'll see a relatively efficient rebuild that won't take longer than 2 seasons. Their president's ass is on the line.
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That's true. They do need to freshen up, but that's more of a gradual process rather than selling 3/4 first team players. Especially, in Madrid's case where there simply isn't better options in the market for said players, regardless of how much money they spend. Replacing Benzema makes sense, as his goal output has dropped dramatically in recent seasons and they've just sold their best goal scorer. Selling Benzema and Ronaldo for say Icardi/Kane and Hazard/Neymar won't be much of drop in level, if at all. However, I can't think of any better replacements for either Kroos or Marcelo.
 
United Pro said:
That's true. They do need to freshen up, but that's more of a gradual process rather than selling 3/4 first team players. Especially, in Madrid's case where there simply isn't better options in the market for said players, regardless of how much money they spend. Replacing Benzema makes sense, as his goal output has dropped dramatically in recent seasons and they've just sold their best goal scorer. Selling Benzema and Ronaldo for say Icardi/Kane and Hazard/Neymar won't be much of drop in level, if at all. However, I can't think of any better replacements for either Kroos or Marcelo.
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There are a lot of quality midfielders like Pjanic, Pogba, De Bruyne, Eriksen, Verratti, Thiago, Kante that could fit in Real Madrid midfield.

Marcelo is more difficult to replace, maybe with Alaba or even Sandro.
 
I wonder if Madrid might be tempted to bring back Ozil. He never wanted to leave and if they want to reshape the team, then he would be easier to acquire than some of their other targets.
 
Zero chance we entertain bids for Marcelo. Him, Sergio, Varane, Casemiro, Luka and Asensio are untouchable, unless they ask to be sold. Everyone else has a price i think
 
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