RAWK Goes Into Meltdown - Quadruple Watch 2022/23

[GDaly95]

Is it possible to overstate how embarrassing the whole 'this means more' thing was?

 

[Real Name]

I think @No Idea For Nickname deserves a tagline for a truly great job she's doing here.

 

[horsechoker]

The winner is:

 

[Red Shorts]

I think @No Idea For Nickname deserves a tagline for a truly great job she's doing here.

Second that. After all these years, we needed this. I hope it continues through the season.

A klopp walkout would be incredibly juicy.

 

[crossy1686]

On TAA:

Nobody is saying he can't defend he just doesn't look like he wants to defend at the minute which is inexcusable. One positive is on present form he will get a good rest in November because no way does he go to the world cup in this form.

I’m always one to jump to defend Trent. I don’t think he’s uninterested and I don’t think it’s lack of desire. He has played an insane amount of games and he needs a rest. But you simply cannot defend basically a player stop running back once a player has went round him.

His effort on the field at multiple points this season now have been shocking. It's a team game, nothing is every truly one players fault but at the same time how can you consistently let a player just walk around when the other team is in your box and trying to shoot and score? He seriously looks as if he could give two shits half the time about what is about to happen after being roasted by an attacker. How can that be good for team morale? It's like I said in the match thread it's as if there is a certain "I'm better" stench being given off by him and others were it's as if just doing the simple thing is beneath them.

I'd bench him, simple as. He's an amazing offensive player, one of the best passers in the league, but you can't have a player be that pathetic at defending (seemingly on purpose) and be ok with it.

He may miss out on the World Cup and get some rest.

Could that be playing on his mind? Knowing his form will see him miss out on the World Cup? Don’t even know if he’s that bothered about England deep down. I dunno looking for answers. Think he’s just shattered tbf.

Just rewatched the 3rd goal we conceded - for him to get done like that and not even chase. Disgraceful.

Then they start insulting each other:

You are the pathetic one.

You're just one single poster and yet you've somehow managed to infest RAWK with your crybaby posts. It's a strange one. You obviously like Liverpool FC otherwise you wouldn't be here, but you hate football. I've never come across that combo before.

if you had any sense of shame you'd quit posting on here for that last sentence alone. asshole.

you're totally full of shit.

Great retort.

if the shit fits, lad.

/yawn

Go to bed soft lad we know it was a bad night.

He can't deal with the fact that some fans will be unhappy after the shitshow tonight which is understandable

we're all unhappy ffs, but that doesn't excuse posters crapping all over players they were thrilled with for the past god knows how long. is that OK behaviour as far as you're concerned?

I agree that there should be a limit. That said, there is nothing wrong with criticizing poor performance and Trent has been very poor this season going both ways. Personally, I can accept poor performances but his attitude for their 3rd was terrible. You can't stroll around at this level.

Everyone is just frustrated and some inappropriate things might be said in the heat of the moment because we hate seeing Liverpool do poorly but the forum will be calmer tomorrow.

Back to Trent:

There isn't a hope in hell he is going to the world Cup. Southgate never fancied him only buckled to pressure He may not even be in our team shortly never mind England's. He is playing lik me someone that doesn't want to be there. There maybe being right back? I dunno I can't think of a player in all my my life as a Liverpool fan out in so little effort

Balotelli.

I'm Trent's biggest fan and think the shouts that he can't defend are ridiculous. However last night was a disgraceful performance.

 

[padzilla]

It's going to be alright, Nike are buying Mbappe for Liverpool, remember?

 

[RoyH1]

Is it possible to overstate how embarrassing the whole 'this means more' thing was?

Absolute cringe. Those teams that have this houlier than thou attitude amongst their fans are cringeworthy

 

[crossy1686]

On Salah:

I know it’s boring but just a reminder that in 2022, Liverpool have now played 38 games in all competitions, Salah has started 80% of them and only scored in 8 of those matches.

Would be 6 games if you take pens away.

Denial

He won’t be getting 400k a week at the rate he’s/we’re playing. Isn’t his salary heavily laden with performance related targets, goals, trophies etc……

Fatcontractitis.

FFS Mo control the ball.

Someone dares to question:

should have kept Mane and got this guy out.
His performances will vane in tact with age and he with a big fat contract, he is gonna stink this place. I am sorry but I have seen it happen too many times in the past 20 years in footballing world.
One needs to know when someone is beyond peak and get rid while there is still selling value.

You should have made this your first post, really come in on a high note.

We should have an entrance test to post on here.

What do you feel should be done with a poster when, two posts in, their contributions have already started to vane and begun to stink the place out. I feel we should follow your advice, what do you think?

And the response:

yeah I suppose these quad of nice gentlemen are getting ready to apologize? thought so..

we used to know when players peaked (coutinho, suarez, torres, alonso etc).

Get to feck with posts like this.

Suarez? Alonso? You think we sold them at the correct time?

Seems we sold the wrong one eh.

Mane: 8 games - 5 goals for Bayern

Mane not exactly pulling up trees for Bayern.

Bayern fans already getting pissed off at Sadio.

Might be about time Salah started justifying his bumper new contract?

 

[BigDycheEnergy]

The winner is:

That made my day

 

[Edwards6]

It's going to be alright, Nike are buying Mbappe for Liverpool, remember?

They've moved onto Bellingham now, he's given them his word according to Liverpool fans so it must be true

 

[crossy1686]

The morning after the night before:

Why are all our players knackered but Real Madrid or City's players aren't? Both those teams played a large number of games last season too. Yes they have big squads but so do we.

Bad day at the office.

The lads will sort it. Jurgen will make sure.

Win the next three and go into the international break with some momentum.

Honestly, how shit are Bournemouth? Astonishing when you think about it

Lots of players look like they're carry the burden of some hefty new contract extensions.

It feels like our season hinges on how fit Thiago stays, which is a huge worry. Buying Nunez instead of a midfielder seems like a wild decision at the moment.

Hahahah

It’s been 7 bad days at the office. I would probably be fired I showed levels of incompetence like them.

Super fans pretend like everything is good while United are ahead of us.

We are projected to make a £75m profit in the next accounts.

Darwin was funded by Mane/Neco/Taki. We got to the final of the CL and earned £100m. The money was there. FSG decided it was better spent buying them a new stand in the form of the ARE.

No United are behind us they don't get to play in Europe until tomorrow, with the other also rans.

They tried to buy Tchouaimeni but failed, ironically he is exactly what we need - a mobile and physically dominant midfielder. The transfer committee or Klopp clearly saw the need and yet we had no second choice. Such a strange way to do business.

Well trying and failing and is still failing.


Either FSG is incompetent or they won’t support Klopp is up for debate.


And it this point we have to question coaching team as well. This is not good enough.

Just pisses me off how everyone slates gomez who was trying to cover the awol trent and trent gets a free scouse pass

That was one of the worst Liverpool performances I've witnessed under Klopp. Possibly the worst. Think the lack of investment in the squad down the years is really starting to show now.

Ignoring the fact he should have never started last night, can someone please explain to me what James Milner was trying to achieve by dangling his hand in the area like that for their penalty?

Our midfield was torn apart by two players who were surplus to requirements at Fulham and at Udinese.

Hangover from Paris and the exhaustion of the attempted quadruple? Possibly.

Honorable mention

Some posts on here read like I'm on Red Cafe. Not that I'm ever on it.

We'll walk into the top 4 though according to some posters. If that doesn't ring alarm bells then nothing will. We need to improve and improve fast as we have difficult games coming up.

The FSG were actually banking on the Super league to go through to compete against the likes of City and Chelsea financially.

Questioning Klopp

He has been in management for over 20 years and has had 3 jobs. As a manger that is pretty much the definition of overstaying your tenure.

Look at his stay in Dortmund go get the hint.

Does that imply Klopp is a one trick pony ? Many have been saying this issue for some time now. With Mane's press and the midfield personnel gone, problem seems to have escalated.

 

[Real Name]

Entrance test.

 

[christinaa]

''Some posts on here read like I'm on Red Cafe. Not that I'm ever on it.''

 

[Withnail]

The winner is:

Ffs

 

[Red Shorts]

Some posts on here read like I'm on Red Cafe. Not that I'm ever on it.

Umm, then how would you know exactly?

These tears of saltiness are giving me dry mouth

 

[crossy1686]

Nunez:

Feels like he’s a scapegoat because of the price tag for the shite that’s happening right now. Really does my head in.

You'd think for the money he'd be better on the ball.

Yeah funnily enough he actually has more to his game compared to Haaland. The only thing letting him down (not in this game) has been his over eagerness which has let to him snatching at chances and in some cases missing the ball.

Darwin actually puts in a much greater shift that Haaland based on what I've seen, if you're looking at all around contribution.

Control a football would be a start.

Did you see Salah's control all night? No, because there wasn't any.

Nobody should be judging ANYTHING of Darwin at the moment.

Haaland vs Núñez is a funny comparison.


Haaland is going to be top class but he wouldn’t join us due to wages plus guaranteed trophies at City. It does suck but Núñez could still be a success

He cost 1.66 times more than Haaland but he is not 1.66 times a better player.

that’s enough RAWK for me tonight

I mean where do with even start with the utter pig headed stupidity in this thread?

Firstly, Haaland cost more than him. There were 40m in agent fees in excess of the fee Dortmund received. Haaland is also paid 3x more than Nunez in wages. Darwin has been disappointing so far, the red card, his positioning, general poor touch and skills. He's definitely a work in progress but he has shown glimpses. He's unlucky he came into this side when he did, because we're awful at the moment, and that's not on him.

Anyone writing him off at the moment in a team that’s badly struggling, needs to use their common sense.

He's hardly played. He's got 1.14 goal contributions per 90 right now in all competitions.

I get the Haaland comparisons because of the price tag. But Haaland is a generational talent. It's unfair to compare both.

He is however expected to be doing more. Much more.

I haven't seen anyone blaming him for the loss.

But for 100M you'd expect him to be much better at controlling the ball, link-up play and scoring from half chances.

Weird weird comment. I mean, genuinely bizarre.

Good job we've only paid £64m then I guess. If he's as bad as you say we'll not have to worry about the rest.

I was more amused (shocked ?) with Salah not being able to trap the ball tonight. Darwin is an afterthought in this broken team.

I can't believe we spent £170 million on this lad. Madness.

Only £120m if he doesn't fulfill his potential, luckily.

I can't believe we still go on about this tripe. We bought him for the price Benfica demanded off us. We did not decide to pay the amount we did.

No one really wants to admit it but everyone is thinking it

Some genuinely weird posts in here tonight

They aren't weird.


They are just fecking stupid.

 

[crossy1686]

On Klopp:

If FSG sacked Klopp I wouldn't go to anfield again whilst they're in charge.

FSG won’t sack Klopp simply because no other top manager would work under their transfer model

We'll have to ride the wave this season. Everyone is mentally out of it. Good thing is we have a world cup break.

The run of form we are having can happen to any team.

Jesus fecking wept - I kind of guessed this would be coming from certain quarters but not from Liverpool fans.

I am actually hearing calls from for Jurgen Klopp to be sacked.

Let me be clear on what should be the stance from ALL Liverpool fans. With no exceptions. None. You can question choices. You can voice your anger, but:

Get to feck ANYONE who even thinks he should lose his job. Nauseating to the extreme. I'm fecking livid and utterly appalled at the mere suggestion that he should be offed as you all should be.

I won't hear a word against Rafa. My eldest has his middle name from him.

As for Klopp, no one is perfect and I trust him to reflect and start a plan
for what's not working. He's been a bit off lately but you'd back him
to sort things out.

I'll be the one to say it... Klopp needs to shoulder a lot of the blame for the state we're in at the moment:

- Persisting with the high line when we had no pace at the back with all our centre back injuries
- Persisting with the high line at the start of this season when we've got a utter lack of pressure in midfield
- Playing Elliott as an 8 in a three man midfield when he's clearly a 10 or a wide playmaker in a 4231
- Whatever the feck the plan is with the Trent/Elliott/Salah axis of nothingness
- Not budging from the 433 that clearly isn't working
- Wanting to give contracts to his ageing generals when their legs have gone or they're on the way out

Loyalty is to be admired, but we're a football club, not a charity. I do wonder if the tactical stuff is the influence of Lijnders though.

Kloppo … you need to speak to [The above poster]. He has all the answers to our problem. Replacing you with [The above poster] may not be a bad shout either

Thank you for your support. I'll do RAWK proud.

I know Rafa was a cock at times, but he would have defo been calling out the owners for what they are. Tight arsed c*nts

feck off with that shit you bellend.

The disrespect Rafa gets, even from some of our own is a joke. Gave me some of my favourite memories and that's not even mentioning how much of a good man he is.

Like I said, at times. He wasn't perfect (ask Xabi Alonso about being asked to miss the birth of his child), but he'd be calling FSG out.

I just got a text from a mate “Klopps race is run”
I’ll wait till I see him before I give him a dig in the arm for it.

Aye, FSG wouldn't know whats hit them if they did the unthinkable.

They’d be forced to sell the club simple as that. Doesn’t bare thinking about. He is the best and has given me the best memories as a Liverpool fan.

if we finished 6th or lower which is a possibility imo
any sane Liverpool fan would demand FSG to stump up some more transfer funds to rebuild the squad

"Due to lack of Champions League football revenue Liverpool will not spend big this summer but will target next summer as the one to go big. Jurgen Klopp has been assured a war chest is ready for when his side are back in Europes big competition" - James Pearce.

 

[brian017]

Even their greatest moment in the last 30 years turned out to be a damp squib. No trophy lift in front of fans, no parade, no fans singing “Championes” or “Stand Up For The Champions” all throughout the following season, no Scousers turning up at OT with giant inflatable PL trophies. As soon as fans were allowed back they were dethroned. If it had to happen, at least it happened in the best way possible

 

[crossy1686]

 

[crossy1686]

He meant so people could get their teeth done, nothing to do with the CL final

 

[Red Shorts]

"I won't hear a word against Rafa. My eldest has his middle name from him."

Oh that is such a gem

 

[bringbackbebe]

"I won't hear a word against Rafa. My eldest has his middle name from him."

Oh that is such a gem

Imagine looking at your kid and being reminded of Benitez. Fachtually hard to digest.

 

[Red Shorts]

Imagine looking at your kid and being reminded of Benitez. Fachtually hard to digest.

Or going to Spain and being served by a FSW. Your son would look back at you with such resentment.

 

[Grylte]

I think @No Idea For Nickname deserves a tagline for a truly great job she's doing here.

I think she deserve a namechange to the one me and Billy Blaggs gave her!

 

[Real Name]

I think she deserve a namechange to the one me and Billy Blaggs gave her!

What's that?

 

[No Idea For Nickname]

I think @No Idea For Nickname deserves a tagline for a truly great job she's doing here.

I am not the only one having fun, look at @crossy1686 doing Gods work. @Chief123 as well. @Carolina Red enjoyed it very much too.

I think she deserve a namechange to the one me and Billy Blaggs gave her!

I kinda miss it.

Now, my morning coffe, and back to work, so many threads to visit, might need day off from real job.

 

[Real Name]

I am not the only one having fun, look at @crossy1686 doing Gods work. @Chief123 as well. @Carolina Red enjoyed it very much too.
I kinda miss it.

Now, my morning coffe, and back to work, so many threads to visit, might need day off from real job.

But you're the boss.

 

[No Idea For Nickname]

What's that?

Bicycle seat sniffer!

 

[Chief123]

I am not the only one having fun, look at @crossy1686 doing Gods work. @Chief123 as well. @Carolina Red enjoyed it very much too.
I kinda miss it.

Now, my morning coffe, and back to work, so many threads to visit, might need day off from real job.

Out of appreciation for your hard work, I try to chip in here and there after coming across some gems while having a cup of tea.

It’s the gift that just keeps on giving.

 

[Real Name]

Bicycle seat sniffer!

Oh that's a great one!

 

[Red Shorts]

If the regulars here were to put each RAWK post inidividually rather than collate it together, this thread would go past the de Jong one!

Great work from the team on providing us such joy

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Haven’t seen this thread on the main page much these last few years.

Nice to see it back a bit more lately, however temporary that may be

 

[Red Shorts]

Haven’t seen this thread on the main page much these last few years.

Nice to see it back a bit more lately, however temporary that may be

Oh I wouldn't worry about that. I have a good feeling about the longevity of their current form.

 

[crossy1686]

Oh I wouldn't worry about that. I have a good feeling about the longevity of their current form.

A couple more drubbings like that and Klopp goes, then the real fun starts

 

[Red Shorts]

A couple more drubbings like that and Klopp goes, then the real fun starts

I mentioned that in a post earlier on. If Klopp leaves before the end of the season, this thread is going to feckin explode!

 

[crossy1686]

I mentioned that in a post earlier on. If Klopp leaves before the end of the season, this thread is going to feckin explode!

Can't wait! I think the WC might spare his blushes actually. The break will help people forget that they've been battered most weekends.

 

[Chief123]

I mentioned that in a post earlier on. If Klopp leaves before the end of the season, this thread is going to feckin explode!

I think Klopp goes this season. They aren’t winning any trophies this year.

 

[crossy1686]

I think Klopp goes this season. They aren’t winning any trophies this year.

Europa is their only chance really

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

Liverpool in the mud. You love to see it.

 

[Red Shorts]

Can't wait! I think the WC might spare his blushes actually. The break will help people forget that they've been battered most weekends.

We still have 2 months of potential drubbings. Ajax next week and Chelsea with a new manager and an inevitable resurgence from them could cause further misery for them. Tasty

I think Klopp goes this season. They aren’t winning any trophies this year.

Unless they have the most fortunate cup run, I agree with you on that.