RAWK Goes into Meltdown 2014/2015 - The "We go again" Edition

Truedevil said:
Wait, what?
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In the late 90's, Liverpool actually had 2 managers running the club at the same time (Roy Evans & Gerard Houllier). Either Roy Evans was too thick to resign at the time or the club didn't have the balls to fire him outright.
 
golden_blunder said:
Dalglish was the Teddy Sheringham of the 70's and 80's
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Golden you are doing Dalglish a major disservice he was better than Sheringham and Cantona. He was also a level up on Berkamp he was truly world class.
 
RuuDCanRun said:
In the late 90's, Liverpool actually had 2 managers running the club at the same time (Roy Evans & Gerard Houllier). Either Roy Evans was too thick to resign at the time or the club didn't have the balls to fire him outright.
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If I recall correctly, it had something to do with doing things the "Liverpool way."
 
The-Natural said:
"If we could combine Rafa's defending knowledge with Brendans attacking tactics we would win the league for many years"

This. This is just classic fcking liverpool fan overreaching, deluded shite! Everything is always so exaggerated with them it's hilarious e.g. henchoz and hyypia although a good defensive pairing were immediately the 'best in europe' according to liverpool fans. Gerrard Mascherano and Alonso, albeit a good midfield 3 were again immediately the 'best in europe'. And this knobhead fan, not content with his silly little hybrid theory of Rodgers and Benitez immediately suggests that it would not only win them A league but instead dominate for many years. This Liverpool fans. This is why you are a bunch of twats. Your pathetic attempts to elevate your faded club with this grandiose statements.
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They were though during that season. Gerrard was probably the best midfielder in england, mascherano and alonso form earned the a move to barca and madrid respectively.
 
MJJ said:
They were though during that season. Gerrard was probably the best midfielder in england, mascherano and alonso form earned the a move to barca and madrid respectively.
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I thought the genius called Rafa alienated Alonso because he wanted Barry?!
 
MJJ said:
They were though during that season. Gerrard was probably the best midfielder in england, mascherano and alonso form earned the a move to barca and madrid respectively.
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Busquets Iniesta and Xavi won the treble that season...
 
Ramshock said:
Debatable if he was better than Cantona/Bergkamp
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Kenny was an excellent player and it seems about fair to me, to bracket him with Eric & van Elbows the non-flying Dutchman. Kenny done a lot more diving though.

Not particularly close to the Messi/Ronaldo level though, really. The bar is high for that. Multiple of those Ballon d'ors and so forth.

(this isn't RAWK meltdown content, obv) :nono:
 
Lawman said:
Golden you are doing Dalglish a major disservice he was better than Sheringham and Cantona. He was also a level up on Berkamp he was truly world class.
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Dalglish scored about 1 in 3 in an all conquering team. I'm not sure id describe him as world class. Bit overrated IMHO
 
Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona, Pele & Zidane have nothing on Dalglish, dontcha know?
 
golden_blunder said:
Dalglish scored about 1 in 3 in an all conquering team. I'm not sure id describe him as world class. Bit overrated IMHO
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You'd think that but....

I honestly think Dalglish was a better player than Pele. Pele is the most overrated sportsman in the history of sport. The one thing I think Pele should be remembered for is a new level of fitness/conditioning (much like Ronaldo), however in terms of skill and finishing I would say Marco Van Basten off the top of my head was a similar type of player but at a much higher level.

Pele was never even the best player in any Brazilian team he played in.
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Theyve started on our game v Chelsea. Someone mentioned that we have a great attack while Liverpool are struggling at both ends of the pitch, which triggered this wonderful analysis of our squad:

they have one player who's top quality and after that largely a bunch of names
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Btw, what's the story with this johnowhite character?

I'm all for having confidence and supporting my team - but reading your post I'm forced to ask the obvious questions. Before I go any further though I have to say I was not and still am not a Van Gaal enthusiast. Thinks far too highly of Aloysius Paulus Maria "Louis" van Gaal for my liking.

I'd have pushed the boat out for Jurgen Klopp - magnificent job done at Dortmund but it never happened and we are where we are.

I think as disappointed as I was with the manner of last season's shennanigins and some of the weird statements made by our former manager, you cannot ignore the fact that Fergie left Moyse some very real er - what should we call them - let's be poilte and call them "opportunities" eh?

Your claimsare based on what evidence? For me, a United old-timer of 64 years standing, this midfield is just about average - for a club of United's history,expectations and standing - and they are yet to gel with any kind of indication that they know they belong to a team. Successful teams are all built upon the combination of talent, good coaching, hard work and that unpredictable spark - the occasional piece of good fortune - Mark Robins FA Cup goal 1990 remember?

For the now I see evidence of some level of talent - Di Maria is clearly a decent player - but by Christ he's had some great slices of luck already this season don't you think? How good he might really be we'll have to see when the going gets tougher. I don't see him doing too much in the way of grafting in midfield though.

For me, Blind and Herrera have things to learn and things to prove yet. All 3 of the mentioned need to adjust to the pace of the EPL - so different from Spain and yes even different from the Netherlands - and they are in the process of learning still.
But is this midfield really as good as we've seen over many years at United? Where's the gaffer ? Where's today's Keano or Robbo? Where's today's warriors up front? Think we still have a long way to go and probably a lot more money needs to be spent - hate to say that being old school but over the last 4 or 5 seasons, we don't seem to have been bringing youngsters through other than to loan them out to other clubs. Blackett and Januszaj have figured a little but nothing earth-shaking.

I still rermain to be convinced by the coaching advice given to the squad. For me , given today's take-home packets, AT THE VERY LEAST, players should ALWAYS be giving their total commitment to hard work during preparation for match day - they call it training but I prefer it to be called LEARNING. If teams can get these first THREE elements broadly and consistently right, surprisingly, that elusive 4th little element - LUCK - more often than not appears to follow. Funny that eh?
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He's a 'United fan' on Rawk with Shankley as his avatar. I love the little details he puts in to convince us he's a united fan - Robins goal and his 64 years being a supporter.

Wrt what he actually wrote, it's hilarious that a player who was MOTM in a CL final has to prove how good he is when "the going gets tougher". Forget 120 mins against La Liga champions on the biggest stage in Club football, it's a tough evening in the Britannia that will define him as a player.
 
akash02 said:
*facepalm*
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Why would he pretend to be a United supporter on a Liverpool forum?

I think it's more likely he's just a bit special.
 
@Tyrion He's one of those United "mates" they all seem to have. Or suffers from Stockholm Syndrome.

In seriousness, I also found the little bits and details he puts in his posts a little bit queer.
 
Red Dreams said:
Dalglish would not be better than the top 10 players that played for us.
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I don't really know because I wasn't born but there is a lot of downplaying of Liverpool's players from the 70's and 80's considering how much they won domestically and in Europe.
 
johnowhite was quickly banned from our newbies couple of years ago.

He was hell bent on idea of United fans apologizing for something. It did had something with Suarez and Evra.
 
BigDunc9 said:
I don't really know because I wasn't born but there is a lot of downplaying of Liverpool's players from the 70's and 80's considering how much they won domestically and in Europe.
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I agree. Its similar to how people put down the contributions of Carrick in a very successful period of time for United.
 
NinjaZombie said:
@Tyrion He's one of those United "mates" they all seem to have. Or suffers from Stockholm Syndrome.

In seriousness, I also found the little bits and details he puts in his posts a little bit queer.
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I've seen a few posts from him. Every one of them is a pop at United while claiming to support the club.
Using fictional conversations wih United fans is abit mental, but to actually pose as a United fan on their own forum. Well, that's true dedication.

Mrs Smoker said:
johnowhite was quickly banned from our newbies couple of years ago.

He was hell bent on idea of United fans apologizing for something. It did had something with Suarez and Evra.
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So he thought Liverpool were right in the Suarez/Evra debacle. Why does that not suprise me?
It's almost as if he's a Liverpool fan and not a unite... No that can't be it. He knows about Mark Robins goal and that's top secret.
 
Great result for Liverpool and a clean sheet to boot! What a CB Balotelli would be by the way, do RAWK have any threads open?
 
Tyrion said:
Theyve started on our game v Chelsea. Someone mentioned that we have a great attack while Liverpool are struggling at both ends of the pitch, which triggered this wonderful analysis of our squad:




Btw, what's the story with this johnowhite character?



He's a 'United fan' on Rawk with Shankley as his avatar. I love the little details he puts in to convince us he's a united fan - Robins goal and his 64 years being a supporter.

Wrt what he actually wrote, it's hilarious that a player who was MOTM in a CL final has to prove how good he is when "the going gets tougher". Forget 120 mins against La Liga champions on the biggest stage in Club football, it's a tough evening in the Britannia that will define him as a player.
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In fairness, I'm curious to see how Di Maria handles the winter.
 
definitely the odd glimmer of disquiet is afoot in the land of the unswervingly devoted

We've been shit all season and are charging people hundreds of quid to see it, or 7 pound a month for delayed coverage

the can feck off if they can't take some stick for playing shite, spunking money and then charging the fans to witness it
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I can't understand Liverpool fans, they're commenting like its the end of the world that they lost, this isn't a joke but shouldn't they be used of it all throughout the Premier League history apart from one season? They're talking about a hallow feeling as if they've been quality for years, whats that about?

A hallow feeling is dominating 20 years then being Moyes'd.
 
Trizy said:
I can't understand Liverpool fans, they're commenting like its the end of the world that they lost, this isn't a joke but shouldn't they be used of it all throughout the Premier League history apart from one season? They're talking about a hallow feeling as if they've been quality for years, whats that about?

A hallow feeling is dominating 20 years then being Moyes'd.
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At least they took their chance last season and won the lea......

Oh wait a minute.....
 
Trizy said:
I can't understand Liverpool fans, they're commenting like its the end of the world that they lost, this isn't a joke but shouldn't they be used of it all throughout the Premier League history apart from one season? They're talking about a hallow feeling as if they've been quality for years, whats that about?

A hallow feeling is dominating 20 years then being Moyes'd.
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The realisation that last year was the flash in the pan we all said it was must be pretty hard to take.
 
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