RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2012/2013)

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Henderson, who can't even get a game for Liverpool? I think that's a measure of how bad he is but no, he should be in the England team ahead of Cleverley and Carrick.
 
TheBest said:
I thought that was one odd comment but seems like most of them actually think shelvey is better than him. Actually henderson is also better than him.


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Its beyond delusion, to be honest, had anyone who actually had even a modicum of football knowledge, rather than Townsend, been awarding man of the match, it would hve been Cleverley.

More touches and better pass ratio than anyone else on the pitch. It wasnt an accident.
 
Nothing new.
I mean we should all accept the facts already that they are just clearly the better team.
I mean how can Carrick, Scholes, Cleverley and Fletcher possibly compete with the mighty Shelvey, Allen, Henderson, and Gerrard?
And honestly, the likes of Sterling and Downing would walk into any team, not to mention Suarez who is only inferior to Messi (but even his days are numbered), while all we've got are cheating overrated cnuts who would never get away with what they're doing if it wasn't for Fergie's deal with the devil.

Let's face the facts people, the only reason they're not #1 is because they want to give us all a false sense of security before they pounce on the rest of the league.
 
OGkush said:
Nothing new.
I mean we should all accept the facts already that they are just clearly the better team.
I mean how can Carrick, Scholes, Cleverley and Fletcher possibly compete with the mighty Shelvey, Allen, Henderson, and Gerrard?
And honestly, the likes of Sterling and Downing would walk into any team, not to mention Suarez who is only inferior to Messi (but even his days are numbered), while all we've got are cheating overrated cnuts who would never get away with what they're doing if it wasn't for Fergie's deal with the devil.

Let's face the facts people, the only reason they're not #1 is because they want to give us all a false sense of security before they pounce on the rest of the league.
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I am sure many genuinely believe this.
 
I see they're finally embracing new technology in Anfield

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Sometimes a magician performs a trick and we all lap it up. We know he's used deflection to trick us, but we don't mind because we see what we want to see. Most media outfits have fallen for some trickery this week; Tony Pulis' misdirection has fooled them into running with the diving debate instead of focusing on the over-physical and at times violent play of his side.


Nobody is mentioning Robert Huth's stamp on Luis Suarez - which the FA are unbelievably going to let go without punishment - or the fact that Stoke will be fined for having six players booked, (and that was actually quite low). There were about 20 yellow card tackles in that game, most coming from Huth and Charlie Adam but nobody is mentioning them. Instead we're all focusing on this 'foreigners ruin our game by diving' debate.


First of all, let me make this clear; Luis Suarez did dive and it's not to be condoned but many Liverpool fans believe he is being victimised here.Some of the best players to have played in this league such as Didier Drogba, Christiano Ronaldo and Jurgen Kilnsmann have dived at times. Don't just blame the foreigners though, after all British players such Danny Welbeck, Garath Bale and Ashley Young have dived in the recent past. We all acknowledge that these players have dived and we've all condemned them, but there were no calls to ban these players.


Secondly, is diving really THAT bad an offence? Is it worse than stamping on somebody? Of course it isn't! So why the big fuss over Suraez's dive yet no mentions the stamp? Diving is an offence that people seem to get on their high horses and vilify those who do it, but is it really that bad?


If a player dives then he will be booked, but afterwards he will be slaughtered by fans, pundits and managers. If a player commits a cheap foul on the halfway line, he'll be booked yet some might say "good foul to give away." So, we have two offences with the same punishment yet we accept them in different lights? Both are what you can call 'cheating' but one's ok and one's not? Why is that exactly?


I'm not condoning diving, but maybe we all need to calm down and stop over reacting to it and vilify those who carry out dangerous, reckless and violet acts instead of somebody going to ground too easily.


Diving is Not the Enemy
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Translation: Our Luis does it so it's alright now. Not that I'm condoning it.
 
Im suprised in his big long diving post that when he mentions british players that dive he fails to mention the biggest culprit... Stevie Starfish
 
They honestly can't make up their mind. Ether it's a conspiracy and the FA are in bed with us, or Fergie has intimadated his way to all those titles.

Can't be fooking both.
 
Decotron said:
I see they're finally embracing new technology in Anfield

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Lol thats actually a pretty good idea. Fair go on that.

Had a bloke I play cricket with wear sunnies with one of those cameras on it when he keeps. The camera is obviously a really shit version of that one but it's quality. Would do it Davids style playing football to if I wanted to get them.

and :lol:

It's funny because in nearly every thread (no that's not an exaggeration at all) a@a has put his "It's clearly bigger than the op suggests, like duh.. How could you not know that??..." 6 and a half pence in and someone has said "Yeah?... Prove it".

It's a wheel of fortune style string of excuses. Just spin the wheel and see which one comes up. In this case "Oh search it you lazy git".....

:lol::lol::lol::lol: he really is a Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
 
Those idiots, don't they know we probably got the lenghtiest cummulative ban of all teams in England, 8 mths for Rio and Cantona, countless sidelines ban, and fines.

pffttt...

Unless they're counting the 5 years ban on heysel that is.

I can't believe they're blaming the stoke match on Ferguson... i seriously can't think they're that deluded
 
Sky1981 said:
I can't believe they're blaming the stoke match on Ferguson... i seriously can't think they're that deluded
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There is a narrative in the minds of a lot of Liverpool fans that Suarez actually dives no more than any other player, and that referees began to penalise him unfairly only after Ferguson came out and planted the seed in everyone's mind that Suarez is a diver. If you believe that it's not much of a stretch to say Ferguson is responsible, although why he'd target Suarez rather than a good player for our title rivals is something I've never really understood about this.
 
Badunk said:
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=298806.0
They’re Manchester United & Ferguson – "they do what they want"
A list of Fergie's 'crimes' down the years.
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Locked. :lol::lol:

Without Manchester United, you'd have to wonder if Andy would exist.
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stmichael said:
if he'd moved to wigan permanently, he'd be nowhere near the england side.
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Just like if he didn't play for United, he wouldn't be getting half the 'overrated' and 'shite' jibes our fans aim at him. . .
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:lol::lol:

They really hate Cleverley.. :lol:

Also they have earmarked Shelvey for Gerrards successor.. Ok?..
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It's such a bizarre claim, why would there be any bitterness towards them after 20 years where we've enjoyed complete domination domestically and they've become largely irrelevant? Granted they do kick our arses more often than I'd like but that hasn't prevented us from consistently finishing above them in the league (and above everyone else more often than not).

But hey, if they want to take the fact so much time on RedCafe is spent laughing them as a compliment, that's fine.
 
I know this isn't really relevant anymore but a few months back I was looking for the video source of that GIF of Suarez's two footed tackle when he was at Ajax, and I randomly stumbled across it last night so I figured I'd upload/post it

 
Agreed. It seems laughing at any City or Liverpool ridiculousness is bitter...

I personally don't get it.

Also yep Olly, it was on Christian Kum I believe..
 
Olly said:
I know this isn't really relevant anymore but a few months back I was looking for the video source of that GIF of Suarez's two footed tackle when he was at Ajax, and I randomly stumbled across it last night so I figured I'd upload/post it

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He actually makes it seem like he injured his ankle there.. must be one strong back of the knee that he put his studs into!!
 
kiristao said:
He actually makes it seem like he injured his ankle there.. must be one strong back of the knee that he put his studs into!!
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I love how the guy that he has just nailed in a two footed lunge just casually stands up and turns around whilst Suarez is waving and rolling around on the deck!

Not only is he the master of a dive within a dive but also a dive within his own fouls.
 
Can I just say, before I experienced the mains I never really got the rawk thread. I've just spent the best part of an hour reading through and it's bloody marvellous.

This is now my new favourite thing in the world. I'll see you lot later, I'm going direct to the source of this lunacy, chow!
 
It's refreshing to see a concise analysis of the Suarez situation.
RooiBefok@RAWK said:
Critique poses significant questions concerning the relations between knowledge and society, between truth and power, between psychology and subjectivity. However it does so in a rather reductive manner. Psychology, for critique, is socially significant merely in that it serves functions, manipulates persons, enforces adaption, legitimates status, and disguises lack, provided false comforts and the like. This leads to the notion of critical history. A critical history, that is to say, is a way of utilizing investigations of the past to enable one to think differently about the present, to interrogate that in our contemporary experience which we take for granted, through an examination of the conditions under which our current forms of truth have been made possible.
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http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=298680.msg10965853#msg10965853
 
kiristao said:
He actually makes it seem like he injured his ankle there.. must be one strong back of the knee that he put his studs into!!
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He really is the most despicable player i've ever seen in the premiere league and that's saying something.

Originally Posted by RooiBefok@RAWK
Critique poses significant questions concerning the relations between knowledge and society, between truth and power, between psychology and subjectivity. However it does so in a rather reductive manner. Psychology, for critique, is socially significant merely in that it serves functions, manipulates persons, enforces adaption, legitimates status, and disguises lack, provided false comforts and the like. This leads to the notion of critical history. A critical history, that is to say, is a way of utilizing investigations of the past to enable one to think differently about the present, to interrogate that in our contemporary experience which we take for granted, through an examination of the conditions under which our current forms of truth have been made possible.
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what's this got to do with football?
 
Reads like RAWK's c & p homage to the school of Foucault...lolz.
 
Yep. The wording is a labyrinth with nothing at its centre.
 
SteveJ said:
Yep. The wording is a labyrinth with nothing at its centre.
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:lol: A labyrinth that has 'Finish this way ->' and you go under the arch and find yourself back at the start about to walk in again.

Then you just walk off, back to civilization.
 
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