RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2012/2013)

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Burrow said:
I bet the gesture is a friendly greeting in Uruguay.
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that's how he greets his grandparents, obviously a sign of showing respect for his elders, whoever thinks that wasn't a friendly gesture is a racist.
 
This is what happens when you have a net spend lower than Stoke city or Sunderland. Reality bites
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Carroll 35 mil
Downing 20 mil
Henderson 17 mil......
 
Many times have I sat there, my thumbs twiddling together as I ponder the next ferocious sentence ready to be spilled onto the pixellated ink of a new post on these boards, with the sole intention of attacking the negativity and doubt that has surrounded our once great club for the past 4-5 years.

Many times have I gazed longingly at the golden sky of which is sung amidst our club anthem and pondered if it is indeed the sun rising, or the flames of hell causing the clouds to lighten with more pain and long arduous roads ready to spout from the heavens and rain down, burning what we could once call a club to the ground, leaving the peaces of our name in the ground.

Throughout the last 2 seasons, one thing I've consistently spouted is the need for calm and it's inseperable partner, patience, once again will I spout the need for this, as the last day and a half or so has seen these boards riddled with so much negativity, it is difficult to understand the need to carry on supporting the club, it is difficult to see the positive aspects of what we are when the negative aspects are so dominant at the forefront of each discussion.

West Bromwich Albion, a team who has beaten us 3 out of the previous 4 meetings, was hounded on in the build up as an easy away tie, a game which we should apparently run away with, and get the ever important first set of 3 points on the long list of football institutions we have come to know as the premier league table, however what followed during the game, some would have you believe, was the equivalent of falling asleep, having Freddy Kreuger invade your dreams, only for you to wake and find Jason Voorhee's standing above you with his trusted machette raised above his hockey masked face. It was the equivalent of a death, with negativity dominating every letter typed, and positivity washed away in a sea of blood that was left by the previous two fictional characters.

However, on that pitch, what was shown was the complete opposite to the above, what was shown was a team in transition (yet again I hear you cry,) a manager that, although young and inexperienced, has attempted to get his style and his philosophy over to the players and was obvious in some sections of the 90 minutes to have been followed to the tiniest detail.

What was seen (for the first half atleast,) was this new ability in each of our players, one which allowed them to press together as a unit, an ability which not only attempted to goade the opposition into mistakes, but also to goade them into giving us enough space to have an attempt at goal (of which there were more than few.)

What was seen (again, for the first half atleast,) was players bedding into a new system, one which is completely alien to them, one which allows them to express themselves to the best of their abilites, one with few, but strict, rulings that should allow all of the players to release the shackles that seemed to have been attached to their ankles for longer than more than a season.

These shackles will take time to fall, with the locks being prised open by the new master locksmith, Brendan Rodgers and his team of tacticious coaches who will undoubtedly (in my eyes,) get us back on the road to recovery, however long it will be.

Belief in a system, in a new coach, in players, new and old, and most importantly, in the club as a whole, comes with some pains, it comes with defeats and a sense of "Here we go again." It comes with that nagging doubt that whatever glory we may have witnessed will fade into the history and not be seen for some time yet. The belief that you have as a Liverpool fan, is not one that will send you on a road of daisy chains and rainbows, it is one of war, of turmoil, of suffering, of anger, of hate but most of all, of pride, a pride that not only comes when you see the Liverbird donned on the chest of the redmen, but a pride that comes with knowing that each day when you wake up, you have a club that feels more like a family, a pride that sets you apart from those who see the game as a money making opportunity.

Let the other clubs say we live in the past, let them call us arrogant, let them goade us and laugh at our recent failings, for one thing is for certain, our past may be behind us, but our history is still being written. Keep the belief and back those that are employed by this family, your family, your football club. Ride out the pain that the belief brings and keep your head held high as I think the heavens have began to open, and I see the name of our club being cleaned and rejoined under a sky of smiling legends and of a battling pheonix.

We'll get back to who we once were, and when we do, it'll be through the power of belief, of patience and most importantly, the power of solidarity.

You'll Never Walk Alone.
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It's creative writing time again on Rawk. It's like an extract from Naked Lunch - the uncensored version.

fecking tactitious :lol:.
 
I like how they are calling out for a forward who can scores goals.

They managed to spend 100 mil on attacking players but have actually gotten worse.

the comedy of that never gets old
 
Wenger has done a number on ferguson by selling Darren Anderton to them for 20m. They will also pee of little pea as he's 4th choice now. Maybe BR should put a bid in for little pea, Mr Alex Ferguson would be frightened to sell to us ala heinze but itd get him unsettled at least.

Can't wait for us to sign Clint deuce Dempsey and a new cf. I can't wait to see how the media will react when we score more goals than them this season
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Clint Dempsey > Robin van Persie la. YAWN
 
Snow said:
Also, Liverpool bidding for Hernandez would definitely upset him. He'd be furious to be denied a move there :rolleyes:
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:lol:

Unbelievably deluded bunch. They are on the cusp of midtableism. One more season out of the Champs League and that could be it for them. They will continue to struggly to attract the type of players that will get them back there.
 
I think he would be upset by the offer itself. It's never good when midtable sides are calling for you.
 
Interesting fact - last season Liverpool scored 47 goals. That's 1 less than Fulham and relegated Blackburn, 5 less than Norwich and just 1 more than relegated Bolton.
 
alastair said:
but there's a serious problem with penalties like the one by Skrtel being given.
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There's no problem whatsoever. Kick a player whose got the ball and it's a foul. Anywhere. Irrelevant whether you mean't to kick the ball but got the player or how long the player had the ball under his possession (which was minuscule in this case). Unlucky, sure, because it happened so quickly. But a foul nonetheless. And definitely not a "problem".

alastair said:
It's like the ones where a player gets to the ball before the keeper, smashes it out of play, and then gets caught. So annoying to watch.
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I don't see how there's any similarity between the two incidents but lets take up this one. I actually think it makes absolute sense to give a penalty in that situation. Sure, it looks silly that the player isn't in control of the ball but let's face it, anywhere around the pitch if the player gives the ball away but gets caught after he releases the pass (no matter how bad), it is a foul.

I think what they need to look at is strikers looking for contact with the keeper rather than the loss of control of the ball.
 
The pelanties given on Saturday were both pelanties. The first could be argued that it was outside the box but he did shove him and he lost his balance. The 2nd was 100% nailed on, simply because Skrtel made an absolute cnut ouyt of himself and the total lack of communication between the defence was hilarious. Clear pen and no-one should have any complaints

On a side note - it's wonderful watching Carragher huff & puff his way round. Totally out of his depth.
 
As someone mentioned before, if Skrtel clears the ball there like a center back should, instead of trying to dribble 2 yards in front of his goal, then there's no problem. Center backs dribble in their box at their own risk.

It's a foul anywhere else on the pitch, so i think it's a foul in the box. My problem with it is that Long never has control of the ball, there is no scoring chance and Skrtel never even saw him steal the ball until after he fouled him. Skrtel didn't change his stride at all, Long just jumped inbetween him and the ball and let Skrtel's stride take him out. There was no attempt to make a football play.

But what do you do, call it a dive? Again, it's a foul everywhere else on the field, you can't reward Skrtel for not seeing Long.
 
gooDevil said:
As someone mentioned before, if Skrtel clears the ball there like a center back should, instead of trying to dribble 2 yards in front of his goal, then there's no problem. Center backs dribble in their box at their own risk.

It's a foul anywhere else on the pitch, so i think it's a foul in the box. My problem with it is that Long never has control of the ball, there is no scoring chance and Skrtel never even saw him steal the ball until after he fouled him. Skrtel didn't change his stride at all, Long just jumped inbetween him and the ball and let Skrtel's stride take him out. There was no attempt to make a football play.

But what do you do, call it a dive? Again, it's a foul everywhere else on the field, you can't reward Skrtel for not seeing Long.
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So why should that be a foul anywhere else on the pitch?
 
alastair said:
He's absolutely shocking and far too keen to give penalties.

It's been said in the thread, but there's a serious problem with penalties like the one by Skrtel being given. It's like the ones where a player gets to the ball before the keeper, smashes it out of play, and then gets caught. So annoying to watch.
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Long has nipped in for the ball and been tripped. The fact that he came from Skrtel's blind side and nipped it makes no difference. It's just poor defending at the highest level and lousy communication from his team mates or perhaps bad listening that allows this to happen. I for the life of me cant understand why city were chasing Skrtel or Agger in the close season. Both have shown themselves to be awkward clowns in this game.
 
Bryan_Munich said:
So why should that be a foul anywhere else on the pitch?
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Because Long was in the process of stealing the ball away from Skrtel, which means possession for WBA and Liverpool losing possession. Skrtel tripping Long prevented that however, so that's a foul. It doesn't matter if Skrtel did or didn't intend to trip him (in this case he clearly didn't intend to), because the result is the same: WBA losing possession (right on the moment of gaining it) again after an opponent brings him down in a manner that is against the rules.

Skrtel should have just done better and checked to see if there was a WBA player close to him closing him down. Skrtel not paying such an attention is his own fault, and leads to conceding an avoidable penalty. Skrtel should not get away with it, just because he didn't pay attention and didn't intend to trip the player who just stole the ball away from him in his own penalty area.
 
Liverpool seem to have awful problems understanding the laws of football especially this part of law 10.




Winning team
The team scoring the greater number of goals during a match is the winner. If both teams score an equal number of goals, or if no goals are scored, the match is drawn.
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Bryan_Munich said:
Yeah, just had a look at the law. Bit naff in my opinion.
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It's actually the only sensible way to referee these things. As soon as you bring intent into it, you're asking the referee to be a mind-reader. Which is why the hand-ball rule is always creating controversy.

If I had my way, I'd change the laws so it's a foul whenever the ball hits someone's hand, intentionally or not. I reckon you'd instantly see the likes of John Terry make a lot more of an effort to keep their hands out of the way when they charge a shot down.
 
On man utd vs everton

I'm guessing you lot are going for a 22 man brawl and a points deduction for both teams, but for me I want an Everton win. And an RvP injury. Hamstring snap or something like that. That'd do me.
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Nasty to wish a serious injury on any professional footballer. I hate seeing that sort of post. Yes, I despise Liverpool but I don't want to see any footballer getting hurt.

Just shows they have no class whatsoever.
 
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Pogue Mahone said:
It's actually the only sensible way to referee these things. As soon as you bring intent into it, you're asking the referee to be a mind-reader. Which is why the hand-ball rule is always creating controversy.

If I had my way, I'd change the laws so it's a foul whenever the ball hits someone's hand, intentionally or not. I reckon you'd instantly see the likes of John Terry make a lot more of an effort to keep their hands out of the way when they charge a shot down.
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I understand what you mean but it would totally transform the dynamics of penalty area incidents. You will have atackers shooting at defenders' arms to win penalties, they won't bother to have an attempt on goal unless it's virtually an empty net. For all the inconsistencies of the current handball law it's still better than that would be.
 
green demon said:
I understand what you mean but it would totally transform the dynamics of penalty area incidents. You will have atackers shooting at defenders' arms to win penalties, they won't bother to have an attempt on goal unless it's virtually an empty net. For all the inconsistencies of the current handball law it's still better than that would be.
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Bodysuits that tie arms behind backs is the only way.

:lol: the Lets be optimistic thread. LOCKED.
 
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