RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2012/2013)

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Seeing Liverpool lose is always fun, but it's not as much fun now that KKK has gone.

I don't know, I thought Kenny was losing it a bit, his mind was starting to go, it was like watching a young Captain Ahab. It was hilarious, but I never doubted it would end in flames and tears. Rodgers looks to play football the right way and I thought was a pretty good choice, if Liverpool fail now it's all on the players, and that's a bit more satisfying to me.
 
Yeah the first pen was pretty soft.

The problem is that there was a pushing motion from Agger and I think it's basically impossible for a ref to tell how hard the push was in the small time frame he has to decide this.

But it's understandable that the Scousers are angry about it.

Second pen is just clumsiness from Skrtel and lack of communication among the Liverpool players, someone should have warned him that there is someone coming from behind.
 
I'd be fecking furious that our defender had no awareness of who was around him.

That too, CBs should know better than to try to dribble around in their box. Seems a bit unavoidable though, if a player that's behind you jumps in front of you when you're in mid stride how can you possibly stop? Okay, the player has a right to jump in there if he can get to the ball first, but the defender isn't making a defensive play, he doesn't even know the guy is there, I'd like to see that be a no call and play on.

Of course Park won a penalty like that for us once and I was very happy, so there ya go.
 
Both penalties were very soft to be fair. Dowd is such a poor referee.
 
Both penalties were very soft to be fair. Dowd is such a poor referee.

I'm afraid it's a virtually no contact game nowadays. Look at it this way....would the racist cnut have gone down in those circumstances? Of course he would...the world we now live in.
 
Both penalties were very soft to be fair. Dowd is such a poor referee.

To be fair, the second one you could see him saying "It's not me!" and pointing at his linesman. Either way, I agree - both very soft.

I know it's the law, but there's something wrong about awarding a penalty when the fouled player is right in the corner of the area running away from goal.
 
Totally agree. Though it's hard to see a way to sort that out.

I've always thought it a bit odd that the area is a rectangle and not a semicircle. I know it will never change but it would make a lot more sense. Could also eliminate the need for a separate one for the 10 yards from penalty spot one.
 
I honestly can't believe anyone would argue that the two penalties were anything but definite penalties.

The first, Agger is completely wrong side of the player and nudges him in the back, any contact from that angle is going to be a foul.

For the second, if that happened anywhere else on the pitch, it's clearly a foul on Long. He's got the ball and is tripped by Srktel.
 
I actually thought the Scousers might be ok this year...not a title contender, but that they might be nipping at the heels of a CL spot.

Watching their match then the Newcastle v Spurs game made me realize they have no business in the top 8
 
Can always rely on this thread to provide laughter. First day of the season and there's a lockdown.
 
Lucas yellow card again? Wonder why?
Absolute fouling machine he is. Looking forward to another 5th game banned.

:lol: we need to resurrect the 'lets all laugh at Liverpool' thread.
This one is about RAWK delusion.
 
Totally agree. Though it's hard to see a way to sort that out.

I'm sure we have this discussion every season, but yeah, there's such a difference between a foul in the box in a non-threatening situation and the prevention of a goal scoring opportunity that it seems very harsh to award the same punishment for both. But t'is the way of things. You could theoretically say certain fouls should get back-pass like in-box free kicks, but once you get into the realms of "how much of a goal scoring chance was that?" you're asking for a clusterfeck of an argument.
 
I honestly can't believe anyone would argue that the two penalties were anything but definite penalties.

The first, Agger is completely wrong side of the player and nudges him in the back, any contact from that angle is going to be a foul.

For the second, if that happened anywhere else on the pitch, it's clearly a foul on Long. He's got the ball and is tripped by Srktel.

I agree with you on the Agger one. Obvious pen.

Skrtel was a bit harsh but irrelevant because the game was over at that point.
 
I just realized that Steve Clarke, who spent last season pretending he understood what Dalglish was talking about as Liverpool assistant manager, is now in charge of the West Brom team that humiliated them yesterday.

You have to love Liverpool, they give so much!
 
Both penalties were very soft to be fair. Dowd is such a poor referee.

I've seen em given and I can't say they categorically wrong ones.

They do however crown a very poor and one-sided performance from Dowd. I am most angry about his carding. He was giving yellows to us for nothing, the one for Suarez in particularly was especially baffling. And WBA could be clubbing our players to death on the pitch and get no more than a 'tsk, tsk' from him on the day.
 
If you put a cracking ball through to Suarez, or through to Carroll, then who'd be most likely to actually score a goal?

The guaranteed starter, or the guy on the bench?

It's a tough call. You'd back both of them to miss.

At a glance, I am gonna say Andy. Among the terrible finishers at our club, he probably ranks lowest.

It's weird though, as he has a great shot. Luis too, can string a ball through a needle sometime, but for the snapshot finish he's all over the place.

For Luis at any rate, the mental issues around our finishing last season seem to have carried over.
 
Let's hope his other mental issues carry on from last season and we get to laugh our asses off at him and Liverpool.
 
I've seen em given and I can't say they categorically wrong ones.

They do however crown a very poor and one-sided performance from Dowd. I am most angry about his carding. He was giving yellows to us for nothing, the one for Suarez in particularly was especially baffling. And WBA could be clubbing our players to death on the pitch and get no more than a 'tsk, tsk' from him on the day.

Oh Suarez deserves every yellow you can throw at him. Hell he should be booked for being on the field tbh.
 
I've seen em given and I can't say they categorically wrong ones.

They do however crown a very poor and one-sided performance from Dowd. I am most angry about his carding. He was giving yellows to us for nothing, the one for Suarez in particularly was especially baffling. And WBA could be clubbing our players to death on the pitch and get no more than a 'tsk, tsk' from him on the day.

Isn't he a massive homer generally? I seem to remember his performance in a Newcastle v Arsenal game, the famous one that finished 4-4. He was absolutely terrible and virtually put Newcastle back in that game with some of his calls.
 
Isn't he a massive homer generally? I seem to remember his performance in a Newcastle v Arsenal game, the famous one that finished 4-4. He was absolutely terrible and virtually put Newcastle back in that game with some of his calls.

He's absolutely shocking and far too keen to give penalties.

It's been said in the thread, but there's a serious problem with penalties like the one by Skrtel being given. It's like the ones where a player gets to the ball before the keeper, smashes it out of play, and then gets caught. So annoying to watch.
 
To be fair, the second one you could see him saying "It's not me!" and pointing at his linesman. Either way, I agree - both very soft.

I know it's the law, but there's something wrong about awarding a penalty when the fouled player is right in the corner of the area running away from goal.

Disagree.

It seems obvious, but it is the penalty box. Defenders know you need to be extra careful within it and any little lapse will be crucial.

It's just part of the game, get the ball into the box, and make the defenders think more.

Skrtel was ridiculously casual yesterday considering he was inside his own box, and was punished for it.
 
I've seen em given and I can't say they categorically wrong ones.

They do however crown a very poor and one-sided performance from Dowd. I am most angry about his carding. He was giving yellows to us for nothing, the one for Suarez in particularly was especially baffling. And WBA could be clubbing our players to death on the pitch and get no more than a 'tsk, tsk' from him on the day.

Ratface deserves a card just for existing.
 
I've seen em given and I can't say they categorically wrong ones.

They do however crown a very poor and one-sided performance from Dowd. I am most angry about his carding. He was giving yellows to us for nothing, the one for Suarez in particularly was especially baffling. And WBA could be clubbing our players to death on the pitch and get no more than a 'tsk, tsk' from him on the day.

Brilliant.

Always the victims.
 
He's absolutely shocking and far too keen to give penalties.

It's been said in the thread, but there's a serious problem with penalties like the one by Skrtel being given. It's like the ones where a player gets to the ball before the keeper, smashes it out of play, and then gets caught. So annoying to watch.

Players are well aware what fouling inside the penalty box results in. They should simply be more careful. If you go down for a challenge you damn well better be prepared for the consequences.
 
What happened to that DrManhattan poster? Wasn't he going to join here or something?
 
It's been said in the thread, but there's a serious problem with penalties like the one by Skrtel being given. It's like the ones where a player gets to the ball before the keeper, smashes it out of play, and then gets caught. So annoying to watch.
I actually think those should be given more often. Most of the time, the attacker gets dangerously smashed into but nothing given because the ball's gone.
 
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