Will the penny ever drop?
RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)
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Will the penny ever drop?
If some of the genuinely believe in conspiracy theories and plots (I know some of their lunatics do), why do they bother supporting their club ? Isn't everything rigged in advance ? What's the point of watching football for them ?
No amount of anger and frustration should make you say such ridiculous claims
No amount of anger and frustration should make you say such ridiculous claims
Jesus, they just love playing the victim, don't they? It's all talk about starting campaigns, emailing sponsors, protests and legal proceedings over there.
The victim mentality in them is just too funny, some of the shit we've got against us by the FA (note: not saying it's a conspiracy against us) and still they believe it's a conspiracy against them 
how can the FA not take action against them after a scene like that
Aren't teams not supposed to do that anymore?
The fat bully kid that no one likes, so they try to be all tough to get respect... Yet everyone just laughs behind his back.
They have. Liverpool have been charged for failing to control their players.
So you're putting the items in bold on a par with a cheat being called a cheat? Sure if a player is abused in that manner you can't blame him for reacting to the crowd, but the reaction from Suarez to a pretty posh crowd calling him a cheat isn't right. If this is seen to be OK you will have players reacing everytime someone in the crowd says anything. If he was a right player he would have used the 'abuse' as inspiration and played better.
Seriously if you think it's OK for players to run around and flip the bird into the crowd everytime there is even the slightest bit of banter or abuse put to them then you are misguided.
Also the amount premiership players is paid is relevent. They are paid so well to be representatives of their clubs and this is all tied into image rights. I'm sure Suarez's image value is going down with his recent behavior and if he gets banned then it effects the club who pay his extraordinary wages. How you think this is irrelevent is beyond me.
Any hit that his image rights take is only relevant to Liverpool's interests, not football's in general, so surely it should be them who decide if he is punished for it? Saying that, Liverpool seem quite happy to back him regardless of his behaviour. He could go out and murder someone and they'd still revere him like he's the second coming.
I don't know why people keep bringing out the 'it isn't even really offensive' card, he's inciting the crowd and there's perfectly obvious reasons why that's a punishable offence.
Nearly every club has had someone charged in similar circumstances, just because a few didn't get punished doesn't mean Suarez should be let off.
Nearly every club has had someone charged in similar circumstances, just because a few didn't get punished doesn't mean Suarez should be let off.
I was responding to the idea that a players wages have no relevence to how they act on a pitch. To that point I put up two indisputable counter points that,
1> If banned the club who pays his wages are at a loss.
2> If proven to be a racist scumbag the club will lose out in image rights.
I wouldn't hold Liverpool as a top moral compass for anything, as it's proven that they will back their own to the hilt regardless of the evidence against them. The FA as the sports governing body have decided (rightly so IMHO) that it is unaceptable for the players to make obscene gestures or shout bad language to the crowd. It's not up to Liverpool to punish him for this. That said if the FA do ban him then surely it would be in Liverpools interests to fine the player as to ensure that these things which effect them don't happen agian. Won't happen though.
He won't be let off for this, but I bet if they punish him for this they will let him off with the racism charge and point to this as an example of how they are not afraid to punish when the evidence is clear.
He should get a slap on the wrists for the finger, 1-day suspension or similar.
If the FA can't muster up a charge after 9 weeks for the racism claim, I doubt there is anything to it. It can't be too difficult to hire a bloody lipreader to review the footage over a day or two.
If the FA can't muster up a charge after 9 weeks for the racism claim, I doubt there is anything to it. It can't be too difficult to hire a bloody lipreader to review the footage over a day or two.
No, not as a moral compass, but they are the ones who will be harmed by any damage to image rights, so I don't see why the FA would even take an interest in that. He is only harming his own club. Saying that, I don't think there will be any damage to image rights, the more of a cnut he acts, the more Liverpool fans seem to worship him.
I really don't think the FA has any business punishing someone for raising a finger though, in all honesty. I'd like to see Suarez banned for life for his continuous bad behaviour, he's a cancer to the game, but flipping the bird? Really? Neville did it towards Carlos Tevez in the League Cup a couple of years ago, I don't remember hearing anyone here calling for him to be banned, and he received no suspension. His celebration against Liverpool was far more offensive to those fans than raising a finger could ever be. They should just forget about it and move on, rather than drawing attention to it.
He has been charged.
Considering your boy was granted extra time to prepare a nuanced/convoluted defence involving language and culture differences, I'd say the blame for the majority of the delay in hearing the case lies more at your end than the FA's.
Be fair now. They aren't that fanatical.
Gerrard's jury from the assault case?
I never said anything about his wages in reference to an FA ban. I'll say it again very clearly.
His behavior is unacceptable as a footballer who is paid millions of pounds has responsibilities with regards to the money he is paid. His responsibility lies primarily with his club, but also to those who pay huge amounts of money to watch teams play their best players and not to have them banned over petty things like this.
This is the best:
If all PL woodwork strikes this season had been goals, Liverpool would be just 4 points behind Man City
If all PL woodwork strikes this season had been goals, Liverpool would be just 4 points behind Man City
I wish we had some of the RAWK gifs so I could express how funny I find that stat!!
So let me get this straight
1) You are concerned for those who pay to watch teams pay their best players, that they will not be able to because they are banned over petty things
2) You want to see Suarez banned over a petty thing
Is that your position? It seems a bit contradictory to me. Sounds like the best solution would be for the FA not to ban people for petty little things.
Picture of the open top bus scheduled for the celebration of us going out of the CL:
I'm sure that this could be the inspiration for some brilliant, creative minds out there:
No, that was in support of a Liverpool fan who was convicted of attempted murder for caving a Bulgarian's head in with a paving slab. The Bulgarian appeal courts and The European Court of the Human Rights upheld the conviction, but Liverpool fans obviously knew better.
I'm sure that this could be the inspiration for some brilliant, creative minds out there:
That's actually a real picture; they're just all holding it backwards.
No, it' not contradictary at all, and you seem to be making great efforts to make it seem so. The two things are not mutually exclusive.
1> He has a responsibility to his paymasters and the fans not to get himself booked by being an idiot who cannot conduct himself with an ounce of discipline.
2> But for so long as he continues to show no discipline the FA must punish him for offences like these.
By the logic players should be banned for nothing as it would upset their fans, by my logic they should be banned for offences they commit and this will obviously effect those who pay him.
Liminal messaging at it's finest. Get the RAWKishness into as many supporters as possible, eh?
They'll have the Anfield goalposts painted in gold at the end of the season.
To match Reina's Golden Gloves, no doubt
It was from a thread '' Cheer Up ''.
Why the ell would you post that. Perhaps we should try better it and make a thread our own version.
I didn't use to visit RAWK but I do spend the odd 5 mins on the site and some of the crap you read there is unbelievable. Theres being biased but RAWK take it to another level. Not all their posters are that bad and some do give us some credit but I'd say it's a small minority.
Kenny presented journalists with a DVD with a list of "fachts."
He's cracking up!
Kenny Dalglish uses DVD to show 'truth' about sinned-against Liverpool | Football | The Guardian
He's cracking up!
Kenny Dalglish uses DVD to show 'truth' about sinned-against Liverpool | Football | The Guardian
It was from a thread '' Cheer Up ''.
Why the ell would you post that. Perhaps we should try better it and make a thread our own version.
I didn't use to visit RAWK but I do spend the odd 5 mins on the site and some of the crap you read there is unbelievable. Theres being biased but RAWK take it to another level. Not all their posters are that bad and some do give us some credit but I'd say it's a small minority.
I think the moderators apply some sort of mass hypnosis to their members.It's not healthy to be this biased, bitter, angry and frustrated.It's sad
Do you think he's Andy@Allerton or maybe he's an avid reader of RAWK and actually believes the shit on there?
He have lost it. Talk about counter productive defense. Not only do he look like a single minded fool who lost perspective, he also bring badwill to his club. Every weekend there are incidents and managers who feels victimized, sometimes right but more often wrong. Our own manager included. Nobody like's to be criticized and accused of being biased. Referee's are only humans and this will not help Liverpool one single bit.
Haha brilliant!