RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)

Reading through the Andy Carroll thread:

"I really rate Andy personally. I think the 35m will turn out money well spent. I think he's a better talent than all of Berbatov, Dzeko & Gomez and went for a comparable price considering English player inflation."

which was met by

"Ridiculous comment, he's absolutely nowhere near the level of Mario Gomez, not even close."

Delusion at its best.
 
"I really rate Andy personally. I think the 35m will turn out money well spent. I think he's a better talent than all of Berbatov, Dzeko & Gomez and went for a comparable price considering English player inflation."
Well, he quite clearly is. How else can you explain Mario Gomez scoring something like 65 goals in 75 games since the start of last season, while Carroll has a grand total of 15 goals in the same period? Hehe.
 
Well, he quite clearly is. How else can you explain Mario Gomez scoring something like 65 goals in 75 games since the start of last season, while Carroll has a grand total of 15 goals in the same period? Hehe.

Poorer oppositions in the Bundesliga? :confused:
 
Reading through the Andy Carroll thread:

"I really rate Andy personally. I think the 35m will turn out money well spent. I think he's a better talent than all of Berbatov, Dzeko & Gomez and went for a comparable price considering English player inflation."

which was met by

"Ridiculous comment, he's absolutely nowhere near the level of Mario Gomez, not even close."

Delusion at its best.

I wonder what they think about the £7m we spent on Hernandez
 
Record in all competitions. Gomez' record in the Champions League is quite good as well.

Just offering an excuse for the Scousers.

Personally I think Gomez is worth 10 times more than Carroll.
 
About Suarez:

Say what you want about his finishing, but I've never seen a player in my 25 years supporting the club who makes something happen every single time he gets the ball.

He astounds me more and more after each passing game, several times a game. Some of the stuff he pulls off is bewildering.

I've never loved any Red more than Robbie Fowler, but Nando was close to God. But neither player had the ability to get me off my seat every time the ball got to him. Simply the most exciting Liverpool player I've ever seen.

Enjoy him boys and girls, God knows how long we'll have him for. Simply out of this world talent.

WTF :lol:
 
Those three are all comfortably better players than Carroll is. Half a good season in the league doesn't make him at all comparable to Dzeko, Berbatov or Gomez.
 
feck off norwich. You had like a 100 chances at OT and you score zilch. You get only one chance and you fecking score. I fecking hate it. feck off. feck off.
I give up. We outplayed them, we dominated them, we were all over them. If we didn't create chances, I
d have been pissed off with ourselves, but the way the other teams bow down to the likes of chelsea and manutd is cringeworthy. feck off.
:lol:
 
There is quite a bit of questioning of Dalglish's tactics and (non) use of subs/using them too late.



In terms of actual results, how does Kenny compare to Roy Hodgson?

I don't think there's much of a difference to be honest. Remember, I mean in terms of results, before I'm lynched.
 
Kenny is just 4 points above Woy to be fair. After outspending him by a good 100 million or so.
 
Hodgson
Played 31 Won 13 Drawn 9 Lost 9 Win% 41.94

Dalglish
Played 34 Won 17 Drawn 8 Lost 9 Win% 50.00

This doesn't differentiate between League and Cup games, which might skew it a bit, but they're fairly similar. I'd expect Dalglish to be doing better considering he's had massive backing from the fans, the board, the players, whereas Hodgson had none of those.
 
West Brom's record signing cost 1/7 of Andy Carroll, a sub, and he has since moved on.

Dalglish will never get called up on this, but he's massively underperforming given the massive financial backing he's had.

Try telling that to a dipper though.
 
Hodgson
Played 31 Won 13 Drawn 9 Lost 9 Win% 41.94

Dalglish
Played 34 Won 17 Drawn 8 Lost 9 Win% 50.00

This doesn't differentiate between League and Cup games, which might skew it a bit, but they're fairly similar. I'd expect Dalglish to be doing better considering he's had massive backing from the fans, the board, the players, whereas Hodgson had none of those.

The usual defence of this is pointing out that Woy's stats are juiced by easy wafer cup games.

Still, though, for all the money and backing "KK" has had that must make uncomfortable reading for Liverpool fans/owners.

Hehe :D
 
So, I just watched the game on MOTD. I saw Suarez miss a bunch of sitters. If this asshole could finish Liverpool might have a chance.
 
but he's 2nd only to Messi in terms of "What the hell!?" moments when he gets the ball.

That's absolutely staggering. Do they only watch Liverpool games & some occasional Messi highlights then?...Incredible delusion. 10/10.

As for.

feck off norwich. You had like a 100 chances at OT and you score zilch. You get only one chance and you fecking score. I fecking hate it. feck off. feck off.

They had at least 3 in the last 10 minutes alone.
 
The usual defence of this is pointing out that Woy's stats are juiced by easy wafer cup games.

Still, though, for all the money and backing "KK" has had that must make uncomfortable reading for Liverpool fans/owners.

Hehe :D

It's a good point, but even so, Hodgson was up against it from day one, taking over from the popular Benitez appointed by the evil Americans, most of the Liverpool fans didn't want him, and after about a month they were chanting for him to be replaced. Dalglish was in a far more favourable situation, loved by the fans, symbol of hopes and dreams and a glorious past, all the myths about Ferguson being terrified of him, and a £100m+ transfer budget, funded by the sale of players who weren't performing anyway, it's no surprise there was an improvement.

I seriously doubt he'll be able to maintain it though, Liverpool's transfer moves under him have been absolutely extraordinary, the club will be bankrupt the way he's going, and 4th place is a fairly ambitious aim considering the strength of Arsenal and particularly Spurs.
 
Hodgson
Played 31 Won 13 Drawn 9 Lost 9 Win% 41.94

Dalglish
Played 34 Won 17 Drawn 8 Lost 9 Win% 50.00

This doesn't differentiate between League and Cup games, which might skew it a bit, but they're fairly similar. I'd expect Dalglish to be doing better considering he's had massive backing from the fans, the board, the players, whereas Hodgson had none of those.

If your extrapolate Kenny's form then it gives about 65 points by the season's end, which is probably about right for their level.
 
I still cannot get my head around how KKenny could want to pay 35 mill for Caroll. He seems to have started his "reign" with an incredible lack of judgement.

Watching the game today, I was gobsmacked with his lack of inventiveness, especially with his subs.

I wonder what the odds are for him making it to the end of next season, even with the KK factor. A few more poor results and the knives will be out after the money he's spent?
 
What gets me when talking to dippers and you mention the Carroll fee, the pre-programmed reaction is to mention Suarez's fee as defence.

So, bizarrely, if you mix both fees it's somehow ok.

Dippernomics.