RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)

our squad is so much better than liverpools that if we composed a liverpool-manchester first 11 none of their lot would even get in. you might think reina is better than DDG but he has made quite a few mistakes too.
 
Just imagine what they will do when Evra lifts the PL trophy. A fitting end to the season, I think.

Poetic justice in so many directions very soon when we finish of the job. For so many reasons winning no 20 will be just so sweet:


  • That its puts clear light between us and Liverpool in terms of League titles won,
  • that we did so with a side in massive transition robbed of two of its most influential players for most of the season (Vidic & Fletcher)
  • That it will be the first tase of PL success for so many of our young squad
  • That SAF has undone yet another 'new business model' even more cashed up that Chavski
  • That that side happened to be our 'noisy neighbours'
  • And of course, I also hope Evra lifts the trophy and our fans are chanting 'Are you watching Suarez'.


In Vidics absence, I think Evra deserves to lift the trophy, given he has played the most games and been ever present. It will also give him a huge burst of motivation to carry on performing at his best next year.
 
That thread is full of gems.

This is a peach:

This got me thinking, are we the British Barcelona? (Hear me out)

Both have played some of the best football in Europe this season.
Both sadly are unlikely to win the title this season.
Both have a manager who is a club legend for both playing and managerial abilities.
Both have won a cup already this season and have the semi's of another big cup competition coming up.
Both are one of the biggest clubs in the world.
Both have a tradition of playing attacking pass and move football.
Both have to battle against 'borderline corrupt' empires (Franco's Madrid and Ferguson's United).

More precisely Barcelona might just be the Spanish Liverpool, because Liverpool FC will always be Liverpool FC. Things don't look too bad for the club from where i'm sitting.
 
Things don't look too bad for the club from where i'm sitting.

He must be sitting in Barcelona.
 
I'm having such a good time posting this on Liverpool supporting mates' Facebook walls -

"Alright mate, just watched a fascinating documentary about that famous sinking ship everyone is talking about lately. Here's a link - have you seen it?"
 
:lol: That is the scripted timeline to a tee of the old 'Boom Bust' cycle.

Another peach from Mr Allerton in the Shove fourth thread (in response to)

Code:
I just don't see us winning the league this season. 

I think we're too far off the pace already and don't have the squad for it quite yet.

"Too far off the pace?! Eh?!

When we used to win the league for fun we were always shite til Christmas. Always.

And we've got a decent squad full of potential, squad players and youth players.

Aim for the Sky and you hit the ceiling. Aim for the ceiling and you may as well eat a pie down at Uncle Roy's Cafe on Corrie. With a nice cup o' tea and a scone.
"

:lol: Uncle Roy
 
They just hate Roy Hodgson so much don't they? It's a bit sickening.
Their football is arguably the same as it was under Hodgson in terms of putrid eye gougingly shite. Their results are nearing similar levels as well.

One man is trash and another is a treasure.
Never understood that one.
 
The results and season they were having was similar for a while, but the way their points total is now, it's actually surely worse than what it was last season. It's just mind baffling that all Dalglish is receiving is some mild criticism from a selection of sensible fans, compared to Hodgson who had everyone calling for his head, despite spending money.

I know why though, they won the Champions Lea...err sorry, Carling Cup.
 
Andy's new tagline is hilarious if read directly after his opening post in the 'Shove fourth' thread.

From:

fecking shove it. I'm sick to the back teeth with fecking fourth. I don't want us to be fourth or third or even fecking second. Let's start the season the way we mean to go on - to win it.

To:

Fourth has gone. We can just chill out, enjoy the football and relax. We have won a pot. We have a chance at a second. We are guaranteed Europe. All in all a decent season. One to build on.

Boom and bust.
 
They just hate Roy Hodgson so much don't they? It's a bit sickening.
Their football is arguably the same as it was under Hodgson in terms of putrid eye gougingly shite. Their results are nearing similar levels as well.

One man is trash and another is a treasure.
Never understood that one.

No, they are actually worse - Kenny the saviour has worse results than Uncle Roy for equivalent fixtures for this season.

Check their Results Comparison thread if ye dinnae believe me.

This is without parallel since 1954.
 
Roy Hodgson paid the price for the way he talked, not just results. And the truth is he overdid it - his uber-humble tone sounded really weak and was just embarrassing for a big club.

Nevertheless, there was an underlying wisdom to what he was trying to do. Liverpool's problems, IMO, stem in part from mismanagement at board level but in part from their fans. The ridiculous, unrealistic expectation levels are just corroding their club. It ruins good players, makes decent sides perform badly.

Hogson rightly decided the first thing he needed to do was calm them the feck down, get them to lower their expectations and build slowly back to winning ways. He played it badly as I said, but you can see what happens when they go the opposite way - get a manager in who is basically one of their mental fans, with all the delusions of grandeur, bitterness and constantly injured pride that goes along with it.
 
No, they are actually worse - Kenny the saviour has worse results than Uncle Roy for equivalent fixtures for this season.

Check their Results Comparison thread if ye dinnae believe me.

This is without parallel since 1954.

Fair enough - I was basing it off the first 22 games of a season where I think 3 or 4 home draws were losses for Hodgson.

I personally think the way Kenny performed last year deserves credit and in terms of positioning their tenure results side by side gives Kenny the edge to credit it as 'similar levels' rather than better or worse.
 
Fair enough - I was basing it off the first 22 games of a season where I think 3 or 4 home draws were losses for Hodgson.

I personally think the way Kenny performed last year deserves credit and in terms of positioning their tenure results side by side gives Kenny the edge to credit it as 'similar levels' rather than better or worse.


And I don't - Kenny returns as the legend, Moses who will lead his people into the Promised Land.

He gets an extended new manager honeymoon period and the likes of Stevie-me turn winners again. Whiners before.
Carragher was part of that too.

We have seen something similar at Chelsea in the last wee while.
Mr. Cracked-Ribs 'n all.

Now we see his real value.

I hope they keep him for a good while on the back of the Carling Cup win.
In fact, I hope they win the damn thing every year if it means he stays on.

He was bloody good at football, about as good as he is shite at management.
 
He was bloody good at football, about as good as he is shite at management.

I agree but he was only 3 or 4 really good signings away from possibly competing. Unfortunately for them they were utter shite.

I bought into the fanfare of the back end of last season creating hype for this one and I thought they would tighten up their form accross the board giving them something to play with in the length of the season. But it all fell apart. Too many chiefs not enough Indians.

Stevie G runs the show it is pretty obvious.

However I did always say that 'when the pressure was off they could go out and get results' when it came down to the pressure of this season they fell off. No new stories there..
 
I agree but he was only 3 or 4 really good signings away from possibly competing. Unfortunately for them they were utter shite.

I bought into the fanfare of the back end of last season creating hype for this one and I thought they would tighten up their form accross the board giving them something to play with in the length of the season. But it all fell apart. Too many chiefs not enough Indians.

Stevie G runs the show it is pretty obvious.

However I did always say that 'when the pressure was off they could go out and get results' when it came down to the pressure of this season they fell off. No new stories there..

They remind me of us in the '80's - always up for a game against the Dippers, a cup team, just as likely to beat the champions as to lose against nobodies.

Fergie was the difference.

Fortunately, they seem increasingly unlikely to be able to attract a modern equivalent.

Unfortunately, Citeh might.
 
They remind me of us in the '80's - always up for a game against the Dippers, a cup team, just as likely to beat the champions as to lose against nobodies.

Fergie was the difference.

Fortunately, they seem increasingly unlikely to be able to attract a modern equivalent.

Unfortunately, Citeh might.

When Stevie G goes/retires they will be screwed.
 
When Stevie G goes/retires they will be screwed.

Their demise for the moment is certain, I think.
Their Yanks are applying an inappropriate model (Moneyball) and may be stuck with a dinosaur (Kenny.)

Spurs, Chelsea, Citeh, Arse and us are in their way.

The Toon too, probably.

Without C.L. exposure, the sponsors will dry up.

Standard made their funding result-based.

S Scousers
T Take
A A
N Nose
D Dive
A Against
R Red
D Devils

or A Again
R Rue
D Dalglish

or
R Racist
D Dippers

Your turn ;)
 
^

Oh but haven't you heard about the new and most important rule of moneyball? You must overspend to cover holes in the squad.
 
It's not moneyball by any stretch. Henderson and Carroll were expensive and are shite.

Correct me if I am wrong, but moneyball considers Carroll a good deal - he is young and has all this potential as identified by a glorious 6 months in the Premiership, and can later be sold on for obscene amounts of money.

You and I know that the obscene amounts of money he will fetch when they decide to cut their losses wouldn't amount to a good piss-up.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but moneyball considers Carroll a good deal - he is young and has all this potential as identified by a glorious 6 months in the Premiership, and can later be sold on for obscene amounts of money.

You and I know that the obscene amounts of money he will fetch when they decide to cut their losses wouldn't amount to a good piss-up.

:lol: 35m... gets me every time!
 
No, they are actually worse - Kenny the saviour has worse results than Uncle Roy for equivalent fixtures for this season.

Check their Results Comparison thread if ye dinnae believe me.

This is without parallel since 1954.

Its funny how they started so optimistically in August but by October they were already talking about 4th even 6th. Newcastle were not mentioned until end October. I can't wait to see if they take themselves off the 'hard games' list. Delusion By Numbers is what they could call that thread.