RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)

[EricaNo7]

How many years did they put us behind in Europe again? I suppose that fourth place victory makes up for it huh

Imagine how it feels for Evertonians!

 

[SteveJ]

Obviously, their club philosophy has moved on from Pass and Move to Pass the Buck.

 

[Redlambs]

Obviously, their club philosophy has moved on from Pass and Move to Pass the Buck.

You forgot Pass back to the Keeper.

 

[EricaNo7]

You forgot Pass back to the Keeper.

They've never been the same since, have they?

 

[GingerPrince11]

I don't get it?

After the Heysel disaster, all english clubs were banned for five years from european competitions.

 

[Longsden_7]

Does that get too close to the line that might get me banned?

I can't see why it would?

 

[gerrydaly]

How many times have Liverpool even been in the top four in the last three seasons?

Season 09-10 –

After match 3 – 4th
After match 6 and 7 – 3rd

Season 10-11 –

Never in top four

Season 11-12 –

After match 2 – 4th
After match 3 – 3rd


Five times.

 

[Sassy Colin]

How many times have Liverpool even been in the top four in the last three seasons?

Season 09-10 –

After match 3 – 4th
After match 6 and 7 – 3rd

Season 10-11 –

Never in top four

Season 11-12 –

After match 2 – 4th
After match 3 – 3rd


Five times.

What an appalling record...

 

[MPTutd]

Just had to post this. Liverpool lost 6-0 at home to Ajax in the NextGen cup thing last night. Its a gem of a thread. Starts off with them being confident and cocky and decends into dispair as they go on to get beaten 6-0!

Needless to say, the ref was to blame.......

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=287736.200

 

[Maciej]

i can't understand how those officiating the game are from the fa. Shouldn't it be neutral officials.

officials have been terrible.

fecking joke. We shudda had 3 penalties.

these assistants are loving the spotlight.

these officials are a joke. Liverpool would be better off with actual neutral officials. fecking hate the fa so, so much.

the 3 men in the black have certainly earned ajax their victory tonight (taking nowt away from the ajax lads).

 

[FlawlessThaw]

Obviously when you get stuffed 6-0 it's the ref who is to blame

 

[Longsden_7]

the 3 men in the black have certainly earned ajax their victory tonight (taking nowt away from the ajax lads).

 

[Waltraute]

Obviously when you get stuffed 6-0 it's the ref who is to blame

Unbelieveable stuff!
The FA hate Liverpool so much they make sure Ajax wins 6-0 just to spite them. In the NextGen series. 6 bleeding 0! Extreme tinfoilhattery even by RAWK standards.

Liverpool would be better off with actual neutral officials. fecking hate the fa so, so much.

 

[Werder Herzog]

 

[Talking Vulture]

Ticketless, drunken fans getting blamed for the Hillsbrough disaster

opcorn:

 

[That'sHernandez]

Ticketless, drunken fans getting blamed for the Hillsbrough disaster

opcorn:

I'm not completely educated on the events but I know the story of what happened from documentaries and it occurs to me that, along with negligence from the stewards to turn fans away, the fans were also to blame for piling into an already full stand and especially considering a lot of them didn't have tickets and just broke in. Surely they both have to accept responsibility for it?

 

[Talking Vulture]

You would think that.But the scousers are NEVER at fault for anything

 

[Skywarden]

Lets not go there.

 

[Ole's_toe_poke]

Ticketless, drunken fans getting blamed for the Hillsbrough disaster

opcorn:

I'm assuming you are referring to the article in the BBC. Did you even read it? It was one unnamed police officer's opinion 4 days after the disaster. Not entirely surprising considering immediately after a disaster like that all sorts of theories are likely to be peddled about. Very provocative headline from the beeb though. People who won't bother reading the whole thing will believe it.

I find it weird that you would take joy from this.

 

[decorativeed]

See you later Vulture...

 

[Talking Vulture]

To be fair to the scousers, football in the 80's was in a right state and the big clubs travelled in number for the big cup games - a lot went without tickets and were drunk. It wasn't just them, we were as bad if not worse. I've stood on the Leppings when it was rammed and it was scary shit. We were treated like sub-human scum for large parts of that decade.

I do think the venue/policing/stewarding was at fault for the disaster but the scousers can't say they weren't partly responsible either.

 

[SteveJ]

The fact that the views of the South Yorkshire police are not revealed raises the question of who leaked the papers and is this a smokescreen for the real truth of who was to responsible for the Disaster. Once again the emphasis is on Merseyside instead of South Yorkshire Police and the government.

The HJC, whilst pleased that information has been released (in spite of attempts by the Panel to control the release of information), nevertheless, is suspicious of the emphasis on the ill-informed and prejudicial views of Merseyside Police as opposed to the actions of South Yorkshire Police and the emerging cover-up. In case people need reminding; Lord Justice Taylor, who headed up the inquiry after Hillsborough, stated that the cause of the Disaster was the breakdown of police control; South Yorkshire Police.

.......

 

[Talking Vulture]

See you later Vulture? feck off - I'm posting what was said on the BBC website you whiny little bitch.

If I'm not allowed to say stuff, what's the fecking point of a forum?

And OTP - who said I was taking pleasure from this? Point me to anywhere in my post where i said I'm enjoying it? Couple of fecking dicks.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

Lets not go there.

I agree with this , I have read the BBC story and this is not the place to discus it.
But I think there maybe a case for a thread to discus it.
Would it stay on track or just descend into chaos , that would be the problem.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

See you later Vulture? feck off - I'm posting what was said on the BBC website you whiny little bitch.

If I'm not allowed to say stuff, what's the fecking point of a forum?

And OTP - who said I was taking pleasure from this? Point me to anywhere in my post where i said I'm enjoying it? Couple of fecking dicks.

There are certain rules to follow, being it's a private forum.

You just broke two of them.

 

[sparky]

Hmmm I thankfully have never experienced first hand being in a pen at a football ground. But I watched it on television. I think I was 16 at the time and just turned the telly on to watch some football. What I saw was horrendous and I can't even begin to contemplate what it was like being there. I read the BBC report and a few things I had forgotten came back to me, like seeing supporters using advertising hoardings as stretchers, seeing people being pulled up and out. This is the wrong thread to have this in and I don't think we should try and apportion blame.

 

[sparky]

See you later Vulture? feck off - I'm posting what was said on the BBC website you whiny little bitch.

If I'm not allowed to say stuff, what's the fecking point of a forum?

And OTP - who said I was taking pleasure from this? Point me to anywhere in my post where i said I'm enjoying it? Couple of fecking dicks.

Your smiley was not the best choice.

 

[JayWalker]

Your smiley was not the best choice.

There's a lot in his posts that isn't right. Don't see why he even needed to bring it up.

Anyway, back to laughing at the scouse.

 

[sparky]

There's a lot in his posts that isn't right. Don't see why he even needed to bring it up.

Anyway, back to laughing at the scouse.

I agree

 

[SteveJ]

For anyone who needs proper information about the Disaster:

http://www.hfdinfo.com/

In brief, we have learnt that the top ranks of Merseyside Police helped to misinform Margaret Thatcher by wrongly blaming Liverpool fans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17238494


Anyway, back to the football stuff...

 

[SteveJ]

Berba for Liverpool!
Or maybe not...

We don't need cast-offs, finished ones, anyway. We've got a good team building. If a Gary Mac came along, oh, yes, definitely, but not some sad old striker hunting the big payola.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=251861.160

 

[Feeky Magee]

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=287776.0

Interesting read this thread. They're rightly angry about the selective leaking of the papers, didn't see them so angry when the exact same thing happened from the Suarez/Evra report, by Liverpool. Obviously varying degrees of seriousness, but still.

Absolutely disgusting. Classic manipulation of public opinion - release some inane comments from one idiot at Merseyside police saying fans were drunk, that will set the tone for the media debate so that there will be a lot of confusion and background noise that - they hope - will drown out the truth

Swap specific bits about both incidents and you could say the exact same thing.

 

[bsc]

I'm a big fan of the BBC, but they way they've reported that is absolutely scandalous.

I'd be absolutely seething - SEETHING - if I was a Liverpool fan.

 

[An Irish Red]

That's the way the British government works; demonise and cover-up, and then rinse and repeat. The 'leaked' stories about Hillsborough are so blatantly obvious in their purpose that you would have to be an idiot not to see it. To admit that the Liverpool fans were not to blame for what happened that day would be an admission that Thatchers government and their establishment cronies covered up what happened and attempted to smear the deceased and their loved ones to suit their own ends. I still find it absolutely disgusting that the cnuts tested deceased children (and their family members) for alcohol. The fact that they would stoop that low to find a way of absolving the blame from themselves is sickening.

Anyway this is probably too heavy a topic for this thread, so I'm going to stop rambling now.

 

[AlwaysRedwood]

See you later Vulture? feck off - I'm posting what was said on the BBC website you whiny little bitch.

If I'm not allowed to say stuff, what's the fecking point of a forum?

And OTP - who said I was taking pleasure from this? Point me to anywhere in my post where i said I'm enjoying it? Couple of fecking dicks.

Classy.

 

[decorativeed]

See you later Vulture? feck off - I'm posting what was said on the BBC website you whiny little bitch.

If I'm not allowed to say stuff, what's the fecking point of a forum?

And OTP - who said I was taking pleasure from this? Point me to anywhere in my post where i said I'm enjoying it? Couple of fecking dicks.

I wasn't whining. I wasn't taking issue with you paraphasing a BBC report either. I was commenting on the inevitabilty of a ban coming your way. Like I say, see you later.

 

[eric le roi]

I'm a big fan of the BBC, but they way they've reported that is absolutely scandalous.

I'd be absolutely seething - SEETHING - if I was a Liverpool fan.

They seem to be making a huge deal of it - it's top story on the 6 o'clock news.

 

[bsc]

They seem to be making a huge deal of it - it's top story on the 6 o'clock news.

People who occasionally glance at headlines, or listen to the news headlines, will get the wrong idea from the way the BBC are reporting this. It's very, very dangerous and will skew some public opinion, who WILL believe this as fact.

I imagine CCHQ will be very happy about how this is being reported by an impartial and trustworthy news source.

 

[SteveJ]

To me confirms that their position in the table isn't because of their performances only, it's their power position with Slurgeson's impact on the league which keeps them up.

 

[cesc's_mullet]

Ajax hammered them in that youth cup... 6-0 apparently, wow that's a fair effort.