RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)

. In my previous piece, I noted how Liverpool have 8/11ths of a particularly good side – Reina, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Enrique, Lucas, Gerrard and Suarez – and that all but one of them (Gerrard) are yet to pass their peak. They’re not all perfect, but they are more than good enough.

Liverpool’s finishing has clearly been their main problem – see this excellent article from TTT subscriber Andrew Beasley as ‘proof’ of overall good play. Using Andrew’s figures, in terms of possession, total shots and shots on target, then Liverpool have statistically dominated 85% of their matches.

If possession, total shots and shots on target automatically equalled wins, then Liverpool would have 66 points now – the same as Manchester City, but from one game less. But of course, it doesn’t. Still, it shows a team playing well, but failing to find that finishing touch. It’s proved to be a major problem, but the structure is mostly sound.
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I had the misfortune of reading a piece from the Mr. Deluded Paul Tomkins. Jesus Christ.
 
Great find KM. Tomkins the turd polisher in chief.

If possession, total shots and shots on target automatically equalled wins, then Liverpool would have 66 points now
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What a fecking premise that is. :lol:
 
KM said:
I had the misfortune of reading a piece from the Mr. Deluded Paul Tomkins. Jesus Christ.
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If anyone think Liverpool played well today due to stats then they need to stop watching football and instead just read match reports based on stats.

Also it is not about just the first team anymore but the squad. If they think having 11 god players is going to translate into title challenging team, then they are in for a surprise.
 
KM said:
I had the misfortune of reading a piece from the Mr. Deluded Paul Tomkins. Jesus Christ.
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I am always duty bound to link to his book:

Above Us Only Sky: Liverpool FC's Global Revolution: Amazon.co.uk: Paul Tomkins: Books

Liverpool's third season under Rafael Benítez was a tumultuous time both on and off the pitch. In 2007 Liverpool FC finally changed hands, with Americans George Gillett Jr. and Tom Hicks buying the club; work began on a radically redesigned state-of-the-art stadium at Stanley Park; and the team reached a seventh European Cup final. Without doubt a new era has begun.
Above Us Only Sky is much more than just the story of one season. As well as reflecting on the recent past, this book looks to the future, to examine how the new regime can make the Reds competitive in all aspects of the game - from silverware, and the pounds (and dollars) that help secure it, through to the players to whom Gillett and Hicks will be looking to achieve success on the pitch, including exciting new signings Fernando Torres and Ryan Babel, to name just two. What do the Reds need to do to win a 19th league crown?
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Some gobshite said:
If possession, total shots and shots on target automatically equalled wins, then Liverpool would have 66 points now – the same as Manchester City
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Yeah, but if those rules were applied, presumably City would have a lot more than 66 points - or do those rules only apply to Liverpool in his desperate fantasy world?
 
KM said:
I had the misfortune of reading a piece from the Mr. Deluded Paul Tomkins. Jesus Christ.
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Went and had a look for myself thinking maybe he has a really good reason for these fantasy land numbers in the rest of the article....

Member-only content - you need to subscribe to read it ! A subscription costs only £3.50 per month.

"Lend us a few quid la?" :lol:
 
KM said:
I had the misfortune of reading a piece from the Mr. Deluded Paul Tomkins. Jesus Christ.

Paul Tomkins said:
Using Andrew’s figures, in terms of possession, total shots and shots on target, then Liverpool have statistically dominated 85% of their matches.

If possession, total shots and shots on target automatically equalled wins, then Liverpool would have 66 points now – the same as Manchester City, but from one game less. But of course, it doesn’t.
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Misfortune?

That is pure comedic genius. The caveat regarding the statistics being based on 'Andrew's figures' is fantastic, but the real brilliance lies in 'But of course, it doesn’t.' This puts even his magnum opus Bob Paisley - Possibly the Greatest Man to Ever Live in the shade.
 
I suspect Pogue is a mod on Rawk.


Anyways I would absolutely love West Brom to finish above Pool.Absolutely love it!
 
Just seen a post in their matchday thread which, through some convuluted calculations (estimated money spent, money they expect to recoup from sales, wages of players coming in, wages of players going out, amortisation, etc), actually shows that they have spent -£1m :lol:
 
Cold_Boy said:
I suspect Pogue is a mod on Rawk.


Anyways I would absolutely love West Brom to finish above Pool.Absolutely love it!
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make-it-so.jpg
 
Badunk said:
Just seen a post in their matchday thread which, through some convuluted calculations (estimated money spent, money they expect to recoup from sales, wages of players coming in, wages of players going out, amortisation, etc), actually shows that they have spent -£1m :lol:
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They never spend anything. They always have the best squad in the league in any player-by-player comparison. They also always dominate every game, and they've got the stats to prove that they from a theoretical standpoint actually won every game.

And that reminds me, I found 'Andrew's figures' on Tomkins' site (Highly recommended, by the way; RAWK-class standard of laughs -- it's easy to see he's the prime stylistical influence over there.)

A riveting read --

Andrew Beasley said:
Considering that Carroll’s overall shots on target ratio (39.1%) is only a small margin behind that of Luis Suárez (41.7%), and that he is similarly close with his shot conversion rate (6.5% vs 8.3%) then a case ​could​ be made that the Geordie has been virtually as effective as his South American partner
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Postage Stamp: How Important is Shot Placement? | The Tomkins Times | Paul Tomkins' blog about Liverpool Football Club (LFC)

ETA: Credit for the above quote goes to Andrew Beasley of 'Andrew's figures' fame, not to maestro Paul 'Above Us Only City, United, Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea and Newcastle' Tomkins himself.
 
Considering that Carroll’s overall shots on target ratio (39.1%) is only a small margin behind that of Luis Suárez (41.7%), and that he is similarly close with his shot conversion rate (6.5% vs 8.3%) then a case ​could​ be made that the Geordie has been virtually as effective as his South American partner
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So they appear to be trying to make the point that Carroll is actually a lot better than he has been given credit for. Of course it can similarly be said that Liverpool's Best Player (TM) is actually only marginally better than Andy Carroll.

We'd better let Pat know so he can prepare for next season's allegations. ;)
 
decorativeed said:
So they appear to be trying to make the point that Carroll is actually a lot better than he has been given credit for. Of course it can similarly be said that Liverpool's Best Player (TM) is actually only marginally better than Andy Carroll.

We'd better let Pat know so he can prepare for next season's allegations. ;)
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that's funny becasue Suarez;s stats are actually shit. Andy Caroll is as bad as Suarez? not sure I agree :lol:
 
decorativeed said:
So they appear to be trying to make the point that Carroll is actually a lot better than he has been given credit for. Of course it can similarly be said that Liverpool's Best Player (TM) is actually only marginally better than Andy Carroll.

We'd better let Pat know so he can prepare for next season's allegations. ;)
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Yes, the upcoming target must surely be Andy 'lowest figure percentage-wise for the centre of the goal' Carroll.

And as you mentioned, I love how the RAWK/Tomkins lot time and time again manage to shoot themselves in the foot even when they're totally in control of the narrative, be it fan fiction or massaging figures. Tomkins himself feels he has to step in at this point in the article, but he ends on a positive note, of course --
Andrew's stats seem to show that Carroll is thinking about his finishing, rather than just hitting and hoping. Another sign of encouragement
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Whatever gets you through the night...
 
Someone over there said something like "I'll be impressed more with the carling cup if the big teams played a proper side"

To which someone replied "Who did Chelsea play?"

Ross Turnbull, Jose Bosingwa, Alex, David Luiz, Ryan Bertrand, Oriol Romeu, Josh McEachran, Frank Lampard, Florent Malouda, Romelu Lukaku, Fernando Torre
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I'd say they only really rested Cech
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:lol::lol::lol:
 
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