RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)

Thank you for your message. I did actually read it all the way through, becoming more depressed with every line.
I shan’t go through all the issues raised by the Suarez case, since the FA commission did that with remarkable diligence and intellectual rigour. Having read the report three times, it amazes me that even the most one – eyed Liverpool supporter could quarrel with its conclusions.
What really depresses me are the trite assumptions made by those who seek to defend the indefensible. Why do you assume that I am “pro – Manchester United’? Absolute nonsense. And why assume that I am anti – Liverpool, when I have had decades of association with the club, going back to Bill Shankly. As a young reporter I used to write a weekly column with Bill and would meet him for a cup of tea and a football education whenever Liverpool were in London. The idea that I could be prejudiced against such a club is actually offensive.
As I say, I don’t want to make all the obvious points. I think the club has let itself down badly over the past few weeks. I think the arrogant and ill – founded support of Suarez has reflected badly on the club and its manager. I think that your condemnation of the FA’s part in the process is simply ridiculous, as is your confident assertion that Suarez would succeed in an action for defamation. You really haven’t a legal clue, have you?
Why do you, and so many of your fellow fans, believe that the rest of the country is anti – Liverpool? Why should those of us who live in London, say, feel any inclination to favour United, or anyone else, above Liverpool? Why do you so avidly seek the role of victim? And why do you prattle about “rent – a – quote anti – racism activists’, when you refer to people who appear more measured, more civilised than you? It’s really quite worrying for the rest of us.
Anyway, I have wasted too much time on this frivolous matter. I am pleased that justice has been done and I hope that the club and its manager will slowly start to see sense.
Best of luck with the Dalglish Day, by the way. Perhaps you might have a T – shirt printed?
Yours,
Patrick Collins.
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Absolute class.
 
So have the Liverpool fans cottoned onto the fact yet that basically all fans of basically all the clubs in the country think that Suarez is a scumbag who racially abused Evra, as well as every journalist, pundit and generally sane person living on this island? Or is it still an anti-Liverpool conspiracy? Surely we can't all despise Liverpool...

That is a crushing reply there from the journalist. I'm guessing he posted it and then proceeded to attempt to discredit it? Probably thinks he won that exchange.
 
That was beautiful from Collins, especially this part --

Why do you so avidly seek the role of victim? And why do you prattle about “rent – a – quote anti – racism activists’, when you refer to people who appear more measured, more civilised than you? It’s really quite worrying for the rest of us.
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I spoke to a mate of mine who's a city lawyer the other day (he's a Sheffield United fan and has no dog in this fight). He'd read the whole report out of legal interest, and he said the thing that came across most strongly was what an absolute shambles Liverpool's legal preparation was. He also said that with the conflicting evidence, retractions and contradictions, the panel had absolutely no choice but to conclude that Suarez was lying, and that it was pretty apparent that the club was lying too. Evra may not have been the perfect witness but the disparity was huge. In a case where it's to a large extent one person's word against the other, your general impression of trustworthiness or un- has a massive effect on the outcome.
 
I bet that reply went straight over Rawk's head's and they are repeating the same claims about biased journalism.

As much as I despise most journalists, that response was excellent. He must have had a shandy or two to even bother to reply.
 
Rooted to the plastic red seat, I stared at the empty Anfield pitch. The floodlights started to dim, the reverberations eased. Everything I loved was slowly decaying; everything I hated was strengthening.
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F*ck me, only RAWK could make a poxy defeat in the Also-ran League sound like The Sorrows of Young Werther written by Sartre with a soundtrack by Black.
 
The reply makes just too much sense for Scousers to understand, surely?

Surely now they think Collins is even more pro United and the media is clearly out to destroy Liverpool at any chance?
 
SteveJ said:
An Open Letter To The Media And Those Using Our Club As Political Capital
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I like this reply

At the risk of darkening the mood even further I had the misfortune to be flicking through that paper the other day (please don't judge me to harshly - I was on the train - board - it was sitting there and the girl opposite was getting fed up of me looking at her tits) there was a piece by Rod Liddle where he said 'the real victim is Suarez' he based this on the FA trying to out PC Blatter / the world, and i think that is the only person Ive seen in the mainstream media take an opposite view.
How can that be? There are always opposing views on everything from war to the price of education so why when there are so many holes in this case plus language issues to consider has there been no real discussion on this?
Personally I think some of it has to do with these puffed up nobody's in the press not trusting in their own ability to express the other side to this story half as well as some of our friends here on RAWK.
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When Rod Liddle is your only supporter, and you still don't realise you're wrong, that's pretty damning.
 
You know Suarez is going to keep costing Liverpool because he almost certainly will not learn from this, especially since his manager backed him to the hilt with his stupid face and silly t shirt. Suarez will either be the undoing of Kennys second spell at the dippers or he will bolt and make the supporters feel as stupid as the rest of us already know they are.
 
I wonder if there will come a time, perhaps when Kenny is gone in a season or two, where Liverpool fans will be able to admit they handled this all wrong and that it was not because of a corrupt organisation.

Maybe it will take a new generation of scousers
 
Each generation of scouser gets more bitter and acts the victim much more than the last. Add to that a lot of them now have never seen such a 'mighty' team win a title, it just makes it all worse for them!

Shows how far they have fallen that their latest legend (second only to Failglish himself apparently) will never have even a single league title to his name. It must be excruciating for them haha!
 
NewDawnFades said:
I wonder if there will come a time, perhaps when Kenny is gone in a season or two, where Liverpool fans will be able to admit they handled this all wrong and that it was not because of a corrupt organisation.

Maybe it will take a new generation of scousers
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They'll turn on him and admit their errors when he eventually hands in a transfer request wanting a move to Chelsea or City.

At which point we will enjoy bringing up old posts and showing them up for the hypocrites they are.
 
NewDawnFades said:
I wonder if there will come a time, perhaps when Kenny is gone in a season or two, where Liverpool fans will be able to admit they handled this all wrong and that it was not because of a corrupt organisation.

Maybe it will take a new generation of scousers
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Impossible - this is going into 'folklore' - the consensus is, Ku Klux Kenny has further enhanced his legend, and with each passing year it'll continue to grow.

Another instance of scouse pluck and determination against the evil media and world at large.
 
lynchie said:
When Rod Liddle is your only supporter, and you still don't realise you're wrong, that's pretty damning.
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:lol:

I love the rhetorical question he asks as well. "How can it be that virtually no-one apart from Liverpool fans agrees with our version of events?"

He's so close to the dazzling insight that's hanging there in front of his nose, but he will never see it.
 
Plechazunga said:
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I love the rhetorical question he asks as well. "How can it be that virtually no-one apart from Liverpool agrees with our version of events?"

He's so close to the dazzling insight that's hanging there in front of his nose, but he will never see it.
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No, sadly a certain faction of their support seems to have left simple club bias and partisanship behind, and entered the pure faerieland of delusional groupthink. Nothing else can explain the act of comparing Luis Suárez to Alfred Dreyfus. "It’s really quite worrying for the rest of us" indeed.

BUSHMILLS@RAWK said:
Luis should change his name to Winston Smith.
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One of these@RAWK said:
Luis should change his name to Alfred Dreyfuss, [...]
Lots of parallels there.
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Waltraute said:
No, sadly a certain faction of their support seems to have left simple club bias and partisanship behind, and entered the pure faerieland of delusional groupthink. Nothing else can explain the act of comparing Luis Suárez to Alfred Dreyfus. "It’s really quite worrying for the rest of us" indeed.
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Dreyfus?

Yeah, because someone being sent to Devils Island to live in misery for 5 years for being Jewish is EXACTLY equivalent to Suzrez´s punishment for racial abuse.

A little education is a dangerous thing.
 
You know, a couple of RAWKites wanted to put a Martin Luther King quote on a banner in support of Suarez. FFS...
 
One day, long after Suarez has left them, they're going to have to come to terms with two of their own witnesses informing the FA of what he actually said and him then dragging the whole club through the mud with him with blatant lying that the rest of the world saw through immediately.
 
Redlambs said:
I bet that reply went straight over Rawk's head's and they are repeating the same claims about biased journalism.

As much as I despise most journalists, that response was excellent. He must have had a shandy or two to even bother to reply.
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I like that - implies that they're one entity who has some kind of hive-mind of stupidity. Like the Borg but different because they make each other less effective
 
Crustanoid said:
I like that - implies that they're one entity who has some kind of hive-mind of stupidity. Like the Borg but different because they make each other less effective
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Anyone with independant thought gets banned, so yeah they do have one 'mind' (using that term very loosely).

It's more like a shared cell, with is fitting on a couple of levels ;)
 
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