RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)

Kenny was really jolly, had a smile on his face all the time, and gave really nice, funny interviews when he first returned...I actually thought he was a breath of fresh air...

Fast forward a year though, and he looks older, bitter, arms folded in that interview like sour grapes. Not sure i like him much any more...

oh well, he's got 35million reasons to be unhappy.
 

Christ, the music was the only thing that got me through that. Was Halloween wasn't it?
 
You're not gonna believe these ones...


 
That second one was a bit disturbing Steve.

Surely someone is on the wind up? No one would genuinely spend time creating that video and putting in youtube.......

Why do the scousers have to turn everything into a shakesperean hollywood trailer ?

It's usually either that or a conspiracy.
 
From some deluded RAWKtwat's signature

Ask not what Kenny can do for your club but what you can do for Kenny.
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These idiots support KKK whatever crap he gets up to and in return he gives them









nothing...

Gerrard probably woke up in a cold sweat the night after he signed his new contract, sat bolt upright in bed and exclaimed 'oh my god, what have I done'.
 
That place actually scares me, it really is close to a cult, they have an idol, an impossible dream and the worse case of group think known to man. The mods actually seem to think it's their responsibility to enforce an ideal and control the fans :wenger:
 
Smores said:
That place actually scares me, it really is close to a cult, they have an idol, an impossible dream and the worse case of group think known to man. The mods actually seem to think it's their responsibility to enforce an ideal and control the fans :wenger:
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It's certainly frightening to think that these are functioning humans certainly


Actually I'm watching Men in Black at the moment so maybe RAWK is the place where aliens go to meet ?
 
SharkyMcShark said:
What the feck can they do for Kenny?
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In all fairness they could give him a bit more time.

It's pretty admirable that Liverpool are willing to give him longer. I certainly think after less than one full season, he could be doing much better, but perhaps it is a long term project.

He come into a poor situation in all honesty, Torres and Masch had left a team which had come 7th the year before.

He did identify shite like Degen, Cole, Poulsen, Konchevsky who all got quickly fecked off. Same with Babel.

Now the problem is after the initial wave of good results, he's still left with dross in his squad. The big problem is fecking Andy Carroll, take him out of Liverpools transfer business under Kenny, and it's not woeful, but he really is the worst signing the prem has ever seen (so far). 35 million for him is a joke.

Basically it's funny for United fans to laugh at Liverpool doing poorly, and I would argue Kenny hasn't done much better than Hodgson, but paying millions to sack him and get someone else in won't do anything. It's best to give him more time.
 
Twigginater said:
Basically it's funny for United fans to laugh at Liverpool doing poorly, and I would argue Kenny hasn't done much better than Hodgson, but paying millions to sack him and get someone else in won't do anything. It's best to give him more time.
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Agreed. And the knee-jerk sacking rarely works (except, perhaps, in the case of relegation-threatened teams), as Chelsea's behaviour has shown.
 
I wouldn't say it would be knee-jerk to dispense of Dalglish, what was knee-jerk was appointing him in the first place. They succumbed to the will of the fans, and Dalglish has been everything we predicted he would be - slightly better than Hodgson but not good enough, and most importantly and most beneficiary for everyone but Liverpool, nigh on unsackable. Hodgson wasn't the answer, but neither is Dalglish. For all the (mostly deserved) stick Benitez got, he delivered them top 4 finishes in I believe 4 out of 6 seasons. And if he wasn't considered good enough, then neither should Dalglish, what Dalglish is producing right now is about the same as Benitez's worst season.
 
By the way, the RAWK thread was way better when it was purely quoting and laughing. Any chance of a general Liverpool thread the same as we have a general Chelsea 2011/12 season thread that all this boring shite can go into?
 
Yeah, it's a clash of...outlooks at heart: FSG seem to have a modern, business-like approach to sport whereas Dalglish's thinking & methods appear outdated; it's never going to work. I'd have more regard for Henry and co if they hadn't succumbed to fan-pressure.
 
Badunk said:
Do you miss the vomit-inducing, sickly-sweet love-fest that RAWK used to have with a certain FSW?
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Yes.

Badunk said:
Do you yearn for poetry, rose-tinted musings and tales of grown men weeping?
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Yes! Yes, I do.

Badunk said:
THEN MISS THEM NO MORE!!!
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\o/ Wwooooaaaaaaarghhh! *goes mad with joy*

The absolutely epic RAFA - By Kris Walsh, and the videos... The videos!
My favourite genre of humour -- the Rafa Benitez hagiography -- is not only alive and well, but scaling hitherto unimagined heights. To quote a RAWKite -- "Magnificent, magnificent writing."

The thread holds other gems, although more remarkable for their understanding of the game, especially in a historical perspective, rather than the pure stylistic brilliance of Kris Walsh --

Saul Goodman said:
It's funny I can't think of another manager who has done more for a club. The battles he fought internally, the good he did in the City, the players he brought to this club, the success he had on the pitch and the youth system which he completely overhauled. Amazing...
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SMD said:
Kenny.

And that's not to belittle what Rafa did. The fact that the only man alive we could say has done more is our manager right now speaks volumes.
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[my bolding]
RAFA - By Kris Walsh
 
What exactly did Benitez do to 'fight the previous owners'? I see that kind of thing written all the time; anyone know?
 
SteveJ said:
What exactly did Benitez do to 'fight the previous owners'?
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He faced them alone in the bleak winter dawn. 'Then Hicks hewed him with his black axe, and a white flame sprang up from the helm of Rafa as it was cloven. And they beat him into the dust with their maces; and his banner, red and white, they trod into the mire of his blood.'
Thus fell the High King of the RAWKites.

Other tales tell of how he spoke out against the owners' transfer expenditure, or rather 'lack of-', went public with his misgivings regarding the Hicks/Gillett LBO, and finally walked off into the wild blue yonder with a hefty severence package.

I think it's fair to say he certainly did his part in helping Liverpool out of the Hicks/Gillett swamp, so credit to him. His most avid fanboys are really doing his legacy a disservice through their overwrought nonsense, making him just a figure of fun.
 
It's my fault for publicly posting love letters & baldness cures to Sneijder.
 
Waltraute said:
He faced them alone in the bleak winter dawn. 'Then Hicks hewed him with his black axe, and a white flame sprang up from the helm of Rafa as it was cloven. And they beat him into the dust with their maces; and his banner, red and white, they trod into the mire of his blood.'
Thus fell the High King of the RAWKites.

Other tales tell of how he spoke out against the owners' transfer expenditure, or rather 'lack of-', went public with his misgivings regarding the Hicks/Gillett LBO, and finally walked off into the wild blue yonder with a hefty severence package.

I think it's fair to say he certainly did his part in helping Liverpool out of the Hicks/Gillett swamp, so credit to him. His most avid fanboys are really doing his legacy a disservice through their overwrought nonsense, making him just a figure of fun.
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:lol:

I seeee....so, it was typical Rafaness: 'fighting the evil owners'='Gimme more money to blow on rubbish players.' What a hero.
 
Badunk said:
RAFA - By Kris Walsh
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By the end of it I was sobbing. fecking hell, I miss the beautiful man.
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SteveJ said:
:lol:

I seeee....so, it was typical Rafaness: 'fighting the evil owners'='Gimme more money to blow on rubbish players.' What a hero.
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More or less, but his public criticism of the owners made their position untenable, thus hastening their departure.

I can certainly see why a Liverpool supporter would be grateful for Benitez taking a public stand against the management of the LBO (which was a true nightmare), but we're a long way away from the 'falling on his sword for the glory of Liverpool Football Club' idiocy. And as for 'no manager has ever done more for a club' -- there aren't enough *rolleyes*-emoticons in the world...

It's almost bordering on offensive coming from soi-disant supporters of a club managed by Shankly and Paisley.

Let's get back to :lol:ing with this picture -- posted by cinc in the https://www.redcafe.net/f64/manchester-united-facebook-page-336795/index8.html thread -- which is my image of the fanatical RAWKite made flesh* --

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*not actual RAWKite depicted; batteries not included; the kitty is much cuter
 
A Rawkite is miffed that a journo tells the truth:


A good example of how blinkered the journalists are on this, was an article by Matthew Syed in the Times this week.

Under the heading of "What do I think? No idea, I just follow Kenny", he is basically calling Liverpool fans lemmings, blindly following whatever the club / Kenny say, without any independent thought.

One extract, "Grown men in the Greater Merseyside area spent hours, weeks, becoming expert in ..........., the linguistic nuances of Spanish as spoken in Uruguay, and sacrificed precious evenings to pore over a 115-page report to find something, anything that might bolster a conclusion they had already prejudged. Had Dalglish told them the sky was purple with yellow dots .........", etc, etc. You get the gist.

Why did he just narrow it down to "grown men" and "Greater Merseyside"? Perhaps the truth of it being men & women of all ages across the globe, wouldn't have served his agenda too well. If he then added " ...... including fans suitably qualified in the legal profession", then his "lemmings" argument suddenly starts to lack a certain credibility. But hey, why write the truth when it would spoil a good story.

I find the section about fans reading the report & studying the "linguistic nuances" particularly amusing - perhaps all the journalists should have done this before writing their bile. As for the section "anything that might bolster a conclusion they had already prejudged", - isn't that what the FA & journalists did themselves?

Unfortunately we live in a world where most journalists are agenda-driven, and the days of good investigative reporting, where there is a drive to get at the truth, have long gone
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Another Rawkite feels compelled to badger another journo about the Suarez case:

I forwarded a copy of the OP to Patrick Collins from the Mail on Sunday accusing him of taking an anti LFC pro MUFC stance in his recent articles about Suarez . I asked him to read the piece which I hoped would change his mind. Some hope.
This is his reply

Thank you for your message. I did actually read it all the way through, becoming more depressed with every line.
I shan’t go through all the issues raised by the Suarez case, since the FA commission did that with remarkable diligence and intellectual rigour. Having read the report three times, it amazes me that even the most one – eyed Liverpool supporter could quarrel with its conclusions.
What really depresses me are the trite assumptions made by those who seek to defend the indefensible. Why do you assume that I am “pro – Manchester United’? Absolute nonsense. And why assume that I am anti – Liverpool, when I have had decades of association with the club, going back to Bill Shankly. As a young reporter I used to write a weekly column with Bill and would meet him for a cup of tea and a football education whenever Liverpool were in London. The idea that I could be prejudiced against such a club is actually offensive.
As I say, I don’t want to make all the obvious points. I think the club has let itself down badly over the past few weeks. I think the arrogant and ill – founded support of Suarez has reflected badly on the club and its manager. I think that your condemnation of the FA’s part in the process is simply ridiculous, as is your confident assertion that Suarez would succeed in an action for defamation. You really haven’t a legal clue, have you?
Why do you, and so many of your fellow fans, believe that the rest of the country is anti – Liverpool? Why should those of us who live in London, say, feel any inclination to favour United, or anyone else, above Liverpool? Why do you so avidly seek the role of victim? And why do you prattle about “rent – a – quote anti – racism activists’, when you refer to people who appear more measured, more civilised than you? It’s really quite worrying for the rest of us.
Anyway, I have wasted too much time on this frivolous matter. I am pleased that justice has been done and I hope that the club and its manager will slowly start to see sense.
Best of luck with the Dalglish Day, by the way. Perhaps you might have a T – shirt printed?
Yours,
Patrick Collins.
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Had to laugh at the reply!
 
Jesus, that reply is rather tart. Still, I guess Collins' impatience and snark reflects how many similar mails he must have had lately.
 
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I can't stand Collins but that is extremely amusing.

feckin' scousers.
 
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