Ravel Morrison (Only football related)

jojojo said:
Sure, but it's not easy sticking a 17 year old in barracks and telling him to stay away from his mates if his mates are only a short drive away.
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I don't know. I think SAF did it fine with someone like Giggs. If I recall Ryan was a bit of a wayward character in his early days and got quite a few bollockings from SAF and changed his ways. Ultimately its down to the individual to change. If he gets sent somewhere away it still won't stop him from getting badly influenced and so at this point I'd trust our staff and SAF more than some random manager in the lower leagues.
 
"...has not been involved in United's past two reserve fixtures" is about the only fact he can provide to backup his headline. It's just twitter extended. I really can't understand the motivation behind the article. Perhaps he's bored.

Morrison's gone missing from academy/reserve team action before...lots of speculation.....and then come back (as have other players (for varying reasons)). Because it's largely academy level, even if there was something there it will rarely get reported on and if it does, it will more than likely be factless drivel like this, unless it's from an official united source.

If he is having off-field issues you would think he's at the right club to resolve them. From official quotes and his brief CC appearance it's obvious he's been tickling with SAF a lot more this season, that can only be a good thing, off-field problems or not. Hope to see him on the pitch soon.
 
Oliver Kay in his Times web chat today:

"I should say, for the uninitiated, that Ravel Morrison is a 17-year-old Mancunian wonderkid from a very tough background. A United coach mentioned him to me in 2007 as the best kid they had seen since the Giggs/ScholesBeckham era, but added that he was in with a bad crowd and would be playing Sunday League before he was out of his teens unless he and they could get him under control. He is currently not playing for United's reserve team due to an off-the-field issue which I'm not going to go into here."
 
Girish II said:
"...has not been involved in United's past two reserve fixtures" is about the only fact he can provide to backup his headline. It's just twitter extended. I really can't understand the motivation behind the article. Perhaps he's bored.

Morrison's gone missing from academy/reserve team action before...lots of speculation.....and then come back (as have other players (for varying reasons)). Because it's largely academy level, even if there was something there it will rarely get reported on and if it does, it will more than likely be factless drivel like this, unless it's from an official united source.

If he is having off-field issues you would think he's at the right club to resolve them. From official quotes and his brief CC appearance it's obvious he's been tickling with SAF a lot more this season, that can only be a good thing, off-field problems or not. Hope to see him on the pitch soon.
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What?
 
Ravel Morrison said on twitter earlier:" will be playing for the under 18s friday 11am kickoff v bolton after this i think good things will start happning"

Hopefully it is a kind of fresh start and a point he can kick on from and become the player he has the potential to be.
 
Do we have a game on friday morning?
 
Mitch Conor said:
why do you say it is a fake?

EDIT: TO clarify, that is the account I saw him tweeting about the game on - the tweets he has previously posted have been deleted, with just that one left. There weren't many to begin with though.
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one of the journalists from the club said it was a fake.
 
This has probably already been suggested, but if he is that talented and if the crowd he's in with is really that bad, then we should be sending him off on loan somewhere for a year or so. Even if it means paying money for a club with a good youth set-up to take him off our hands, it's got to be worth the gamble when you consider that we paid circa £15 fecking million for a podgy 18 year old Brazilian who had just recovered from a broken leg.
 
rednev said:
This has probably already been suggested, but if he is that talented and if the crowd he's in with is really that bad, then we should be sending him off on loan somewhere for a year or so. Even if it means paying money for a club with a good youth set-up to take him off our hands, it's got to be worth the gamble when you consider that we paid circa £15 fecking million for a podgy 18 year old Brazilian who had just recovered from a broken leg.
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This actually already has been suggested somewhere.

It was pointed out that this could actually be a bad idea, because if he got up to mischief at another club it would be a lot harder to keep the news from getting out. He'd have less protection from the press at another club than he would here.

Also, there is no-one better than Fergie at helping a talented young footballer stear clear of danger, protect them from the press and nurture them into a good player. I reckon Fergie is keeping a close eye on Morrison, because of the levels of talent and misbehaviour involved..
 
To clarify, the Twitter account is a fake? If so, they've gone to really pathetic levels to make it look real. I'm going to admit I think it's real. More fool me possibly.
 
Andy Mitten has said a footballer escaped jail by pleading guilty to witness intimidation today. He apparently can't be named which would suggest he's under 18. The judge apparently expressed concerns about his club's handling of him. The rumours seem to suggest it was Morrisson though that is not confirmed.

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Morrison played 2 days ago in 3-0 win against Oldham in the Lancs Senior Cup. Played in a roaming role behind the front 2 apparently. No reports as to how he did - but we won 3-0. Obertan & King did well by all accounts.
 
What is up with the kid? Wasn't he ahead of Pogba and Norwood in the pecking order? Not anymore apparently as Pogba and Norwood have both got squad numbers ahead of tomorrows game against Crawley.
 
So Morrison played for us in the Youth Cup tie and scored against Newcastle, to set up a quarter final clash against Liverpool at Anfield.

 
Only senior player who can handle him is Rio. Why can't SAF give Rio the assignment of being this guys buddy? Rio should not make it obvious but I am sure Morrison with his authority issues can somehow relate to Rio? And Rio via his own way can guide him.
It will be a shame if we allow him to sink. He is a lad we should spend resources to teach how to swim.
 
Rio and Nev have reportedly both offering to take him in/under their wing
 
Think it's confirmed that Morrison was the youthful offender who narrowly avoided jail time recently. The Guardian describes some pretty disgraceful behavior.

What United hoped would never become public knowledge is that, three weeks ago, Morrison stood in the dock of Trafford youth court, alongside two accomplices, waiting to find out if he was to be sent to a young offenders' institution.

Morrison had admitted two charges of intimidating a witness. He had subjected the victim of a knifepoint robbery to a two-day ordeal in an attempt to stop him giving evidence at the trial of his muggers. He had been warned he could face a spell in detention and, with that, United would almost certainly have given up on him. Instead, Morrison was given another chance: the judge decided on a 12-month referral order, warning him that if he did not comply he would be sentenced to a year behind bars. He was told his behaviour had been "appalling" and this was his last chance.

Two of his friends were locked up for the robbery. The court was told Morrison subjected the victim of the mugging to threatening phone calls ("you don't know what I'm capable of") over the course of two days a year ago and was among three teenagers who threatened the boy on the street. The three later appeared in the victim's front garden in the early hours. They were chased away but then came back in a mob of 15 to 20 people. A brick was thrown through the window. The victim was so traumatised his family have put the house up for sale and want to leave Manchester.
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A little more. His response to the verdict is not encouraging.

Since the verdict Ferguson and his coaching staff have spent many hours debating how to handle the teenager, and are still uncertain of what is best. There are already stories of Morrison missing training, or turning up late for matches. "There's always something going on with him," has become a popular refrain.

More seriously, his temperamental nature and apparent dislike of authority have manifested themselves on the training ground. It is said Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, then the reserve-team manager, had to intervene in one incident. The teenager is described as someone who acts impulsively and does not think of the consequences, a fragile personality in need of a role model. Morrison has contemplated moving out, complaining that he does not like being under the watch of his grandmother, but the club would rather he stayed in the company of adults, and it is said that Rio Ferdinand and Gary Neville have both offered to take him in at different points.
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Morrison wore a hoodie to one court appearance. There was no emotion when the judge told him he was being spared detention. However, Morrison seemed appalled when he was informed he had to pay costs, including £500 compensation to the victim. The court was told United's No49, described on the club's website as a "supremely gifted talent", had nothing in the bank despite receiving £3,400, after tax, on the 25th of every month, as part of the professional contract he signed when he was 17.
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