Rate the Summer 2024 Window

Rate the summer 2024ntransfer window (0 = complete failure, 10 = perfect in every way)

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if the Sancho deal actually goes through... and I will not believe it until nailed on and announced, then it realistically has to be a 10/10 window, yeah ok we still have Antony and Case (although in fairness to him Case has looked sharp)and okay we are still missing a few players from an ideal squad, but to clear out they way INEOS have and bring in the players they have for what a net spend of ball park £70m, I mean that is fantasy land, can you imagine where we could have been if INEOS had been in charge for the last 10 years!

So Rome wasn't built in a day, there is definitely work left to do, but I think this is the best transfer window I can remember, and I easily remember before transfer windows existed

Ok there have been windows where we have signed more exciting star players but how has that turned out! honestly I cannot believe what INEOS have achieved in one window, only time will tell how good it has been but for now amazing
 
The potential is there for it to be a great one (let's say 8 or 9/10 ) in terms of the incomings, but that also was true for several past windows that turned out awful in the end. There are some concerns and risks involved with every signing, but that's true for every signing every team ever makes, basically.

I agree with and am satisfied with the all the departures, though. Maybe could've got a bit more for McTominay, but that's it.

The net spend is impressive, too.

No rating, it's impossible to answer for now.
 
7/10 at best.
Good at selling though none of them were great deals.

Main worry is we didn't address the lack of goals. How are we going to narrow the 30+ goals difference between last season's tally and those of the top 4/6 clubs?
 
Overall: 7/10

That's considering all aspects of the window including outgoings, In terms of incomings, I'd say it's a 6/10. This window was focused on bolstering the defense which is understandable after the injury disasters last season and we can't expect to address every problem in one window.

We lack cover at left back and, in midfield, getting a destroyer like Ugarte is fine, but we have not addressed the severe lack of quality passing/ball-carying ability in this area. Zirkzee is a good addition, but none of our attackers can be trusted to score 20+ goals a season

With our current playing style, this window means we'll be tougher to score against but we'll also continue to have a hard time breaking down the opposition. I don't see how we'll be able to improve our goals scored record from last season by any considerable amount.
 
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A very respectable 8/10. Would be a perfect score if we managed to get a striker.
 
Regarding players bought, can't really say before they play for at least few months. All of our signings are coming from other leagues and that can be difficult for players intially. I like de Ligt, Yoro and Ugarte on paper but they haven't started yet and as big a talent as he is Yoro is only 18 and we may have to be patient with him. Don't have much of an opinion on Zirkzee though obviously happy he scored vs Fulham. Mazraoui could be decent fullback option.

However, regarding players that left I am really happy. We got off Varane's and Martial's wages and sold van de Beek finally. Also got decent money for Hannibal, Alvaro Fernandez and Pellistri and same could probably be said about Kambwala and AWB (as his contract was expiring as well). Sold Greenwood so that story is finished as well and got 30M for McTominay who was also in his last year regarding contract. Sancho leaving on loan it seems and then permanently for 25m pounds next year is nice as well though I'd rather if he went to Juve.

I'll say it's 7.5/10 but can't really say until signings prove themselves. We didn't get a LB, another midfielder, a winger or another striker. You can't do it all in one window of course but we'll probably be lacking goals again.
 
7/7.5 for me. Did very well with outgoings. The only bad sell was Pellistri imo. I'd have preferred we kept him for some more squad depth. The fee we got for a starting Uruguayan international was terrible. Absolutely no sugar coating selling him for less than we signed him for. Bad deal and would have given us some security in case of an injury crisis. Having only 4 wingers is really unhealthy in terms of squad depth.

Good money from the Greenwood, Sancho and McTominay sales (even if I'd have preferred to keep the latter ideally). Martial and Varane coming off the wage bill is a big help for PSR (though in the short term losing Varane has made our cb options slightly worse imo, bear in mind this is pretty much negated by Martinez being available though). AWB, VDB and Hannibal weren't good enough, so we did well to just get them off the books.

In terms of signings, I think Yoro was an excellent signing. I'm very hopeful he will be one of the best cbs in the world within a couple years. Mazraoui will be great value if he can stay fit. A big improvement on AWB. Whether he can avoid injury problems is the big question. Not as sold on De Ligt as most. Became a necessity once Yoro got injured. On a high wage, so unlikely to be sold on if he does poorly. A bit too similar to Martinez to form a perfect partnership (think one of them alongside Yoro will work much better). However, he does seem like a natural leader, which is great for the dressing room. Thought he looked a bit suspect in the 2 sub appearances but can't judge with any real accuracy in such little time, especially when not fit. Hoping he starts against Liverpool to get a better idea of his level in our team.

Zirkzee is a bit of an unknown to me. I didn't watch him at Bologna. His goal record concerns me a bit. Good that he already has a goal. I've not been impressed with his gameplay aside from that tbh. I'd like to see him pressing more. We got worse both times he came on for Mount imo. Not sure he starts when Hojlund is fit.

Ugarte is very good at the role he performs. I'm not fully convinced that role was the right way forward tbh, but we'll see. I don't expect to see him starting for a couple months yet. Think we'll see variations of Casemiro-Mainoo-Ugarte throughout the season. Can see us playing Case and Ugarte in some of the tougher games for extra solidity and energy. He will no doubt offer us another effective presser, which is clearly the biggest priority for ETH, but I worry a bit about the lack of progressive passers in midfield. Also, a little concerned that Ugarte's aggression might lead to him pushing forward out of position and leaving the defence exposed. Hoping this won't happen too often. If playing alongside Casemiro this might not matter much. Alongside Mainoo it would be an issue. I'll remain optimistic on Ugarte's signing though. I think he could do well, especially in our current counter-attacking, transition system.

My biggest concern is the front positions. We have created a lot of chances in the opening games, but the finishing has been dreadful. Bruno and Garnacho both look like they'll create plenty throughout the season, but we don't have anyone clinical to put the chances away really. We really need Garnacho, Amad and Hojlund to take big steps forward and for Rashford to rediscover his goal scoring touch. If none of that were to happen, we'd be in trouble tbh.

I'm very confident in Nacho this season. He should already arguably have 2 goals and 2 assists in less than 60 mins of game time. Amad and Rashford are more of a question mark. Need to see how Hojlund looks when he returns, but signs were positive in the pre-season before his injury. Really hoping Ruud helps him with his positioning because, unlike our other players, finishing isn't his issue, it's simply being in the right place to score. If he gets that right, he's capable of 20+ goals this season imo.

Overall, INEOS really did a lot. There's only so much you can realistically expect in 1 window. I don't think they could have done much more honestly. The rating is moreso a reflection of how many problems they were left with from the former management. I expect we'll sign an important attacker in January. Hopefully Ashworth, Wilcox and the recruitment team can use the extra time as an opportunity to find some gems. We'll also know by then whether or not we can trust the likes of Rashford, Amad, Zirkzee and Hojlund. It was always going to be tough for them to decide who could and couldn't be relied on after so little time at the club. Not too sure about this season tbh, but I think next season could see a big improvement.
 
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What is your final rating here then?
Overall Solid 7.75/10 slightly over rated by the players that we’ve got rid of, I see still a huge uphill battle to make the top 4/5 and that’s the real challenge for Ineos?

Man United are Not Nice, we belong in the CL every season or their tenure will be judge as absolute failure!

I add the caveat that they have reduced the wage bill by £1.4m per week with 19 players out, providing Chelsea are paying all of Jadon’s wages, I would also assume that we have added probably De Logt(200k), Mazraoui(140k), L Yoro(125k), J Zirkzee(85k) , M Ugarte (140k), Bruno new contract (+60k,) K Mainoo (+75k), C Obi Martin(15k) and S Kone(10k) So overall the club probably reduced the wage bill £550k per week or £30m per year.

That’s a lot and more than enough to add Rabiot as Scott’s replacement and a young winger?

In terms of actual transfer Sales and purchases, my estimate including a rumoured £7m loan fee for Jadon means the club has brought in approximately £90-95m in and spent approximately £187-190m (Subject to C Obi Martin’s Tribunal fee, I’ve estimated £6m) so overall a net spend of £90-100m.
 
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Good window if everything works regarding incomings but that can only really be judged at the end of the season which is always the case :nervous:
What can be judged are the outgoings and purely by getting Sancho out the door I would have to rate it as a success.
I would have liked us to have shipped out Antony and Lindelof but we have to be realistic and we simply need the numbers to put a team out in 4 competitions.
 
Assuming Sancho is out it's 10/10 for me. Five signings, all look at have top class potential and at the right age range.

We moved out a lot of deadwood.
 
Is this a typical English fan's poll? Just can't wait?

Bruno hit the road straightaway so can probably draw some conclusion after 4 games, but he is rare breed.
Hujlund, how was he after 4 games? I think none of you can draw a proper conclusion after 14 games.
Maguire, AWB? Sanchez, Sancho?
Only Amad and Pellestri were easy to assess, because they were not good enough to start.

There is a reason why a rear mirror, is called rear mirror, not front mirror.

Poll me again in March, then I can probably give a fair assessment on each of the new recruits.
 
Good business done. 7.5/10 for me. We still lack goals and haven't signed anyone who will change that significantly. Still think we will have a good season. This window has clearly showed that we have people in charge now who know exactly what they are doing. We are on the right track for the first time in a long time. Properly optimistic now for the first time in years.
 
Mazraoui - 8/10 . Great signing. Low fee, good age, nice blend of physicality and technique, by all accounts a really good character.

De Ligt - 7/10 - Fee is just about right I think. Again raises the character of the team. I don't think he'll ever be considered one of the very best centre-backs in the league. I just think he lacks that elite level athleticism of players like Saliba & Van Dijk. I also think he has a lower ceiling than players like Van De Ven or even Branthwaite (controversial, I'm sure) but I think he'll be a very good signing.

Ugarte - 7/10 - Not exactly the profile I hoped we'd go for but if we're intent on playing a hyperagressive Bielsa-ball then he's a very good proponent. I know this has got pushback but I do see him as a more refined, maybe more mouldable version of Fred. Whether that's a compliment or an insult depends on how you rated him. Me? Loved him...and I'm sure Ugarte will be a very quick fan favourite too. The fee's a tough one to judge. My instant reaction is that we should never be giving PSG their money back for a player they didn't fancy after a single season. In the context of their Joao Neves deal it looks even worse. But putting those two things aside, is £50m really that big an overpay for a 23 year old who's an elite ball-winner? Probably not.

Yoro - 7/10 - Probably the one I'm most excited about. It's the type of signing every supporter loves; a swing for the fences, high stakes gamble where you could end up with the next Rio or the next Curtis Davies. It's a very big fee but I'm just happy to see us taking punts on this type of player again instead of throwing down similar fees for decorated mercenaries looking for their last payday.

Zirkzee - 7/10 - Very reasonable fee. Good age. Very unique profile in that he's absolutely massive physically, yet he wants no part whatsover of being an old fashioned number 9. Style wise he's more like a Joao Pedro or Cunha - two players I'd love here, especially Pedro. Either of those two would have been much safer options; but they'd also have cost double what we paid for Zirkzee.

Overall: A very solid 7/10.

Coherent is the first word that springs to mind.

Just a way more rational, calculated set of signings than the absolutely wild shit we were getting up to in the recent past. We were doing some egregious shit. Throwing huge money at a 29 year old Casemiro despite us being clearly years away from having a team who could challenge? Burning £55m and £250k p/w on Mount who was so obviously - instantly! - a very unnecessary backup from the moment he signed.
 
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Is this a typical English fan's poll? Just can't wait?

Bruno hit the road straightaway so can probably draw some conclusion after 4 games, but he is rare breed.
Hujlund, how was he after 4 games? I think none of you can draw a proper conclusion after 14 games.
Maguire, AWB? Sanchez, Sancho?
Only Amad and Pellestri were easy to assess, because they were not good enough to start.

There is a reason why a rear mirror, is called rear mirror, not front mirror.

Poll me again in March, then I can probably give a fair assessment on each of the new recruits.
Mildly racist 0.3/10 for you

See you in March
 
Mildly racist 0.3/10 for you

See you in March

Yeah maybe it's because I've had a few beers and I'm reading it wrong but what a weird post. No one is judging the players its more the window as a whole with what we need to get done.

Any normal window on paper I'd say a good 7 with a few positions not filled but with all the PSR issues and bad contract after bad contract the previous set up left us in, to get this much work done already I'd have to give it an 8/10.
 
Certainly has been welcome change in transfer window under Jim Radcliffe and co compared to Glazers and their buddies

In
Zirkzee,Yoyo,De Ligt.Mazraouoi,Ugarte and one for the future Kone

Out (Are others but didn't feature too much)
Varane,Shoretire,Martial,Williams,De Beek,Kambwala.Greewood,Wan Bissaka,Pelistri,Hannibal,McTominay,Sancho

With all the ins and outs I'd have to give it solid rating of 7/10.
 
9. Way above my expectation. Every piece of deal a good one. Never thought we would shift Sancho. This management means business. Football business.
 
Mazraoui - 8/10 . Great signing. Low fee, good age, nice blend of physicality and technique, by all accounts a really good character.

De Ligt - 7/10 - Fee is just about right I think. Again raises the character of the team. I don't think he'll ever be considered one of the very best centre-backs in the league. I just think he lacks that elite level athleticism of players like Saliba & Van Dijk. I also think he has a lower ceiling than players like Van De Ven or even Branthwaite (controversial, I'm sure) but I think he'll be a very good signing.

Ugarte - 7/10 - Not exactly the profile I hoped we'd go for but if we're intent on playing a hyperagressive Bielsa-ball then he's a very good proponent. I know this has got pushback but I do see him as a more refined, maybe more mouldable version of Fred. Whether that's a compliment or an insult depends on how you rated him. Me? Loved him...and I'm sure Ugarte will be a very quick fan favourite too. The fee's a tough one to judge. My instant reaction is that we should never be giving PSG their money back for a player they didn't fancy after a single season. In the context of their Joao Neves deal it looks even worse. But putting those two things aside, is £50m really that big an overpay for a 23 year old who's an elite ball-winner? Probably not.

Yoro - 7/10 - Probably the one I'm most excited about. It's the type of signing every supporter loves; a swing for the fences, high stakes gamble where you could end up with the next Rio or the next Curtis Davies. It's a very big fee but I'm just happy to see us taking punts on this type of player again instead of throwing down similar fees for decorated mercenaries looking for their last payday.

Zirkzee - 7/10 - Very reasonable fee. Good age. Very unique profile in that he's absolutely massive physically, yet he wants no part whatsover of being an old fashioned number 9. Style wise he's more like a Joao Pedro or Cunha - two players I'd love here, especially Pedro. Either of those two would have been much safer options; but they'd also have cost double what we paid for Zirkzee.

Overall: A very solid 7/10.

Coherent is the first word that springs to mind.

Just a way more rational, calculated set of signings than the absolutely wild shit we were getting up to in the recent past. We were doing some egregious shit. Throwing huge money at a 29 year old Casemiro despite us being clearly years away from having a team who could challenge? Burning £55m and £250k p/w on Mount who was so obviously - instantly! - a very unnecessary backup from the moment he signed.

Good post, I agree with most of what you wrote.
 
Go!
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(I’ll update this post with all incomings and outgoings and fees)

INS

Matthijs De Ligt (Bayern) - Permanent
Sekou Kone (Guidars) - Permanent
Noussair Mazraoui (Bayern) - Permanent
Manuel Ugarte (PSG) - Permanent
Leny Yoro (Lille) - Permanent
Joshua Zirkzee (Bologna) - Permanent

OUTS

Sonny Aljofree (Accrington) - Loan
Rhys Bennett (Fleetwood Town) - Loan
Alvaro Fernandez (Benfica) - Permanent
Will Fish (Cardiff City) - Permanent
Omari Forson (Monza) - Permanent
Mason Greenwood (Marseille) - Permanent
Hannibal (Burnley) - Permanent
Elyh Harrison (Chester) - Loan
Tom Huddlestone - Retired
Joe Hugill (Wigan Athletic) - Loan
Willy Kambwala (Villarreal) - Permanent
Marcus Lawrence - Released
Anthony Martial - Released
Charlie McNeill (Sheffield Wednesday) - Permanent
Scott McTominay (Napoli) - Permanent
James Nolan (Inverness) - Loan
Maxi Oyedele (Legia Warsaw) - Permanent
Facundo Pellistri (Panathinaikos) - Permanent
Kie Plumley - Released
Shola Shoretire (PAOK) - Permanent
Donny van de Beek (Girona) - Permanent
Raphael Varane (Como) - Permanent
Radek Vitek (Blau-Weiss Linz) - Loan
Aaron Wan-Bissaka (West Ham) - Permanent
Brandon Williams - Released
Tom Wooster (Farsley Celtic) - Loan

*Jadon Sancho - Loan with obligation will update when final information available
Chido Obi Martin?
 
Transfers look good on paper. I'm a bit worried about not having cover on the wings. We have three wingers plus Antony who is not good. Rashford has not been very effective, so not much competition there. Otherwise, we've strengthened everywhere.
 
4

Failed to get rid of useless Ten Hag signings. Bought yet more Ten Hag players.

Instead sold a bunch of talented youngsters who may, or may not, turn out to be decent players.

Only positives getting rid of Greenwood and loaning out Sancho. Hopefully Yoro turns out to be a good signing. Don't expect much from the rest, perhaps one or two will be ok.

Absolute disgrace that Antony is still a part of the squad. Eriksen still around. Casemiro picking up his ridiculous salary.

I'd have sold Mount and kept McTominay.
 
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Mazraoui - 8/10 . Great signing. Low fee, good age, nice blend of physicality and technique, by all accounts a really good character.

De Ligt - 7/10 - Fee is just about right I think. Again raises the character of the team. I don't think he'll ever be considered one of the very best centre-backs in the league. I just think he lacks that elite level athleticism of players like Saliba & Van Dijk. I also think he has a lower ceiling than players like Van De Ven or even Branthwaite (controversial, I'm sure) but I think he'll be a very good signing.

Ugarte - 7/10 - Not exactly the profile I hoped we'd go for but if we're intent on playing a hyperagressive Bielsa-ball then he's a very good proponent. I know this has got pushback but I do see him as a more refined, maybe more mouldable version of Fred. Whether that's a compliment or an insult depends on how you rated him. Me? Loved him...and I'm sure Ugarte will be a very quick fan favourite too. The fee's a tough one to judge. My instant reaction is that we should never be giving PSG their money back for a player they didn't fancy after a single season. In the context of their Joao Neves deal it looks even worse. But putting those two things aside, is £50m really that big an overpay for a 23 year old who's an elite ball-winner? Probably not.

Yoro - 7/10 - Probably the one I'm most excited about. It's the type of signing every supporter loves; a swing for the fences, high stakes gamble where you could end up with the next Rio or the next Curtis Davies. It's a very big fee but I'm just happy to see us taking punts on this type of player again instead of throwing down similar fees for decorated mercenaries looking for their last payday.

Zirkzee - 7/10 - Very reasonable fee. Good age. Very unique profile in that he's absolutely massive physically, yet he wants no part whatsover of being an old fashioned number 9. Style wise he's more like a Joao Pedro or Cunha - two players I'd love here, especially Pedro. Either of those two would have been much safer options; but they'd also have cost double what we paid for Zirkzee.

Overall: A very solid 7/10.

Coherent is the first word that springs to mind.

Just a way more rational, calculated set of signings than the absolutely wild shit we were getting up to in the recent past. We were doing some egregious shit. Throwing huge money at a 29 year old Casemiro despite us being clearly years away from having a team who could challenge? Burning £55m and £250k p/w on Mount who was so obviously - instantly! - a very unnecessary backup from the moment he signed.
Agree with the overall evaluation. I’d probably give Yoro 8, Zirkzee 6 and Mazraoui a 7.
 
4/10

Mazraoui - if he stays fit, okay signing
Yoro - never seen him play besides pre-season games, can't judge him yet
De ligt - from what I've seen of him over the years I don't rate him highly
Zirkzee - never saw him play before playing for us, can't judge him yet
Ugarte - don't remember ever watching play so can't judge him yet

No left back despite not having one last season and going into this season without one

Without selling any centre mid we needed one anyway, signing only one centre mid isn't enough

No winger despite out lack of creativity and goals, only have four wingers and two of them are not good enough

No experienced striker
 
Transfers look good on paper. I'm a bit worried about not having cover on the wings. We have three wingers plus Antony who is not good. Rashford has not been very effective, so not much competition there. Otherwise, we've strengthened everywhere.
I totally agree with the weakness on the wings, we need to discover if we have any genuine game changer coming through, Eithan Wheatley, Harry Amass, Jack Fletcher, Shea Lacey, Finly Macalster, Mantato, Biancheri, Amir Ibraghimov, James scanlon and Ethan Williams all have a chance however I think only two from that list plus Toby Collyer will be promoted this season.

You just hope Lacey stays injury free and starts to get a chance, he’s already light years better than Antony.
 
Outgoings 8 - we have moved quite a lot of the dead weight on would’ve liked to have seen more but realistically not possible in one window


Incomings 6 - steady but not at all inspiring signings.we’re just hoping that they can be good but who knows.
 
A 7.5 for now, but depending on the long term, this window might go on to be either one of the best ever, or be the one which ended ETH's United career.
 
13 years of mismanagement cannot be undone in a single transfer window.
 
Couldn't really ask for too much better. Personally I would have wanted a left back through the door but looking around the market nobody any good seemed to be available and I can't really argue against the shift away from temporary fixes.

The same could maybe be said for an extra attacker, I suppose, but we do have numbers there at least.

As to the players who did come in, it's clear we had a plan and stuck to it. The revolving door defence has been mostly addressed, we've added a couple of players who will help with our frailty in defensive transitions, and to top it off we brought in a very promising young forward who I believe will be a very big player for us going forward.

We've also shifted a huge number of players which will make coming windows easier to navigate. Given that most of the new staff handling business only came in this very summer, it's pretty damn impressive what's been achieved.

8.876/10
 
Transfers look good on paper. I'm a bit worried about not having cover on the wings. We have three wingers plus Antony who is not good. Rashford has not been very effective, so not much competition there. Otherwise, we've strengthened everywhere.
I totally agree with the weakness on the wings, we need to discover if we have any genuine game changer coming through, Eithan Wheatley, Harry Amass, Jack Fletcher, Shea Lacey, Finly Macalster, Amir Ibraghimov, James scanlon and Ethan Williams all have a chance however I think only two from that list plus Toby Collyer will be promoted this season.
 
4/10

Mazraoui - if he stays fit, okay signing
Yoro - never seen him play besides pre-season games, can't judge him yet
De ligt - from what I've seen of him over the years I don't rate him highly
Zirkzee - never saw him play before playing for us, can't judge him yet
Ugarte - don't remember ever watching play so can't judge him yet

No left back despite not having one last season and going into this season without one

Without selling any centre mid we needed one anyway, signing only one centre mid isn't enough

No winger despite out lack of creativity and goals, only have four wingers and two of them are not good enough

No experienced striker

You're easy to please, aren't you?