Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United

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So, £72m it is eh.
That's steep.
Looking at some obligatory YouTube videos, I'm still not convinced.
With that kind of budget, I would have thought United to at least bid for Leao.
I think he's more skillful and further along the development.
United have some Portuguese connection in the past and present.
Worth a try.

PS: That Nicolas Jackson doesn't look too shabby at all.

I mean.. Leao isn't even a striker.
 
Just on Kane, obviously he's on a different stratosphere quality-wise but based on EtH's words about us being all about pressing, someone in Kane's mold would appear to contradict that
 
Leao is a left winger and nothing else
He started off as CF throughout youth level.
He's then mainly deployed as LWF for his breakout til now.
With his talent, I think he could be anything he wants in that final third if the setup allows it.
Anyhow, scratch off this Leao suggestion.
Dude has just signed contract extension recently, his price will shoot through the roof if he indeed moves.
Maybe just a tier below Napoli's Osimhen.
 
If he struggled to win physical duels against Smalling then the PL is gonna be a rude awakening for him


Struggling against a center back who's biggest strength was/is his physicality and pace is a red flag? Doesn't make much sense to me.
 
smalling is brilliant physically?

the lads 20 and already looks strong, I’m not worried about that aspect of it

the biggest potentially issue for me is the pressure on the lad, the circumstances are not ideal to slowly bed him in

I’m sure ETH has a plan though
Parklife
 
Because I laughed at your frankly rubbish take and your desperation to panic about this deal :lol:
Ridiculous. I found his take interesting because there are better defenders around, and Smalling would struggle in the PL nowadays.
 
So to begin with, I think Kane was absolutely gettable for a big fee.

That would’ve given ETH 2 years of a top, top CF at his peak and thus would buy ETH that future everyone’s going on about.

It would almost certainly also guarantee the club trophies, which is nice.
The state of our squad and finances meant we weren't in a position to blow it all on Kane. It's as simple as that, really.
 
There’s a whole bunch of posts on here trying to persuade us that £70m is the new going rate for an unproven talent. In fact, one post earlier even went as far as suggesting that it’s the appropriate cost for a back up striker.

We’ve overpaid by about £25m. We can still be pleased that we’ve got a centre forward through the door but that level of insanity in our transfer dealings shouldn’t just be brushed under the carpet.

Anyway, that’s the last I’m saying on the cost. Will be exciting to see how he develops and I hope our fanbase has patience.
I can’t take you seriously if you aren’t going to quote the right amount.
 
He started off as CF throughout youth level.
He's then mainly deployed as LWF for his breakout til now.
With his talent, I think he could be anything he wants in that final third if the setup allows it.
Anyhow, scratch off this Leao suggestion.
Dude has just signed contract extension recently, his price will shoot through the roof if he indeed moves.
Maybe just a tier below Napoli's Osimhen.
Really? :eek:
Your evaluation of Leao is certainly way above mine! I haven't watched him that much but he's not a player I rate highly at all.
 
My lord what a ridiculously misinformed post, which you can clearly tell by the amount of perplexed replies you’ve received.
Jamie Vardy on his way to a Premier League title and 24 PL goals in 2016 called Smalling his toughest opponent also.
https://www.football365.com/news/leicester-jamie-vardy-reveals-his-toughest-opponent-so-far

How on Earth could any United fan that has watched plenty of Smalling, not understand that he’s strong as feck, and fast as feck.
Yeah, absolutely mind boggling take on those quotes from Hojlund. It’s like they’ve never watched smalling.
 
Smalling’s issues were his on the ball skills and his positioning. One on one he was a monster.
 
If he gets us 20+ in the season but also creates for others and unbalance the opponent, I'll be fine. 15 in all comps will be criticised. At the end of the day, he will be judged by his numbers.
15 would be great mate, which other 20 year old striker would get 15 goals in PL? How many would Vlahovic get? Scamacca, a proven goalscorer in Serie A, got how many last season?
 
Really? :eek:
Your evaluation of Leao is certainly way above mine! I haven't watched him that much but he's not a player I rate highly at all.
Last season he posted 15G/16A in 48 from that LWF position.
Just as comparison, Kvaratskhelia is 14G/17A in 43.
I think Leao is the most talented player in the current Portugal team.
He's got the skills and the pretty complete physical attribute.
He sometimes look languid and nonchalant but with the right setup and coaching, he can explode to genuine world class level.
Well, that is just my opinion.
 
It’s not hard to see how well this kid will fit into our system. His high energy levels, speed, and press intensity will cause chaos on their back line and really allow the likes of Bruno and Rashford to capitalize. Not to mention his constant movement and positional awareness will put him in great spots to pounce when our midfielders can feed him through in transition after a midfield turnover.
 
He will be criticised because people share your mindset. You ever thought about giving him time instead of attending the inevitable whinefest because everyone else does it?
Ladies and gentlemen, this person can read my mind :rolleyes:
 
If that £72m is true (and I highly doubt the basic fee will be much like that) then I’d say you’ve overpaid. £12m more than Nkunku and more than double Nicholas Jackson just seems really excessive for someone who hasn’t shown an awful lot. I’d put it up there with the Szoboszlai to Liverpool transfer in terms of return on investment.
 
If that £72m is true (and I highly doubt the basic fee will be much like that) then I’d say you’ve overpaid. £12m more than Nkunku and more than double Nicholas Jackson just seems really excessive for someone who hasn’t shown an awful lot. I’d put it up there with the Szoboszlai to Liverpool transfer in terms of return on investment.
The basic fee is everywhere - it's £64m.
 
If that £72m is true (and I highly doubt the basic fee will be much like that) then I’d say you’ve overpaid. £12m more than Nkunku and more than double Nicholas Jackson just seems really excessive for someone who hasn’t shown an awful lot. I’d put it up there with the Szoboszlai to Liverpool transfer in terms of return on investment.
60 is the base fee, then its like 4 mill easy addons and 8 mill hard addons according to Fabrizio, which makes it a little more palatable I think
 
If that £72m is true (and I highly doubt the basic fee will be much like that) then I’d say you’ve overpaid. £12m more than Nkunku and more than double Nicholas Jackson just seems really excessive for someone who hasn’t shown an awful lot. I’d put it up there with the Szoboszlai to Liverpool transfer in terms of return on investment.

Neither of those comparisons are fair when you consider that both Jackson and Nkuku had release clauses.

Regarding return on investment, only time will tell
 
Last season he posted 15G/16A in 48 from that LWF post.
Just as comparison, Kvaratskhelia is 14G/17A in 43.
I think Leao is the most talented player in the current Portugal team.
He's got the skills and the pretty complete physical attribute.
He sometimes look languid and nonchalant but with the right setup and coaching, he can explode to genuine world class level.
Well, that is just my opinion.
Interesting - I love to watch Portugal, and while he scored a worldie, he came across a bit last season AWB-esque, but as a winger. Same thing when I saw him in the CL.
Has tricks that take you by surprise from time to time, pace, physicality, but not the best technique at all. Just seemed rather messy and inconsistent in his play. Again, I'm only going by a tiny pool size, but genuinely surprised.
 
Hoping he is announced soon and doesn't play versus Lens as that means he'll probably play the match in Dublin.

Don't have a ticket for it yet but will probably buy one second hand off somebody on the day
 
15 would be great mate, which other 20 year old striker would get 15 goals in PL? How many would Vlahovic get? Scamacca, a proven goalscorer in Serie A, got how many last season?
I was taking about all competitions so around 45 to 55 games depending on how far we go in the cup competitions.

The thing is that while 15 might appear acceptable now, it might seem too little at the end of the season and than everyone will be on his back. That is a fact. 20 goals will be acceptable to most. My hope is he turns out better than I could imagine.
 
:lol:

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‘But you’re complaining too’

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Flip it around, and you get a fairly accurate approximation of reality.
 
I’d much rather spunk this money on an exciting young prospect than on Toney, call me crazy. Toney is good but for money it would take, I don’t think he’s that special?
The obsession with these midtable level strikers is just bizarre to me. Toney has done well for a much smaller club where the expectations are very different. A large percentage of his goals come from penalties. He's not suddenly going to step up to a level where he can help propel us towards a title challenge or the latter stages of European competition, which is what the ambition should be.

Apart from anything else, Toney is unavailable until January and wouldn't cost much less than Hojlund, at 27 years old. Brentford have been holding out for £40m for David Raya, a goalkeeper, when he has a year left on his contract and has made it clear he wants out. The suggestions that we'd be able to sign Toney for £30m are pure lunacy.
 
If that £72m is true (and I highly doubt the basic fee will be much like that) then I’d say you’ve overpaid. £12m more than Nkunku and more than double Nicholas Jackson just seems really excessive for someone who hasn’t shown an awful lot. I’d put it up there with the Szoboszlai to Liverpool transfer in terms of return on investment.
Basically we're paying over the odds for someone who hasn't made the next step, because we're concerned that if he made that next step he would cost even more. That next step is what separates him from the Vlahovics and Nkukus right now. Based on his trajectory from Sturm Graz and Atalanta, he should be on the rise (for the positivity police). He has grown into his body, and our coaches are usually pretty good with strength conditioning, so he shouldn't struggle too badly.
 
60 is the base fee, then its like 4 mill easy addons and 8 mill hard addons according to Fabrizio, which makes it a little more palatable I think

Yep, most likely. I get the impression EtH is quite specific about the players he wants. If he thinks they are the right fit then he expects to get them even at above market value, rather than compromise. Both Martinez and Antony were, I think, bought a fair bit above what I’d have expected. One now looks like a genuine steal, the other less so.
 
Flip it around, and you get a fairly accurate approximation of reality.
Utter nonsense.

Posters who weren’t / aren’t that keen on the signing haven’t been insulting others, calling them toxic and ranting at them to stfu for having a different opinion.

That has been utterly one way, and to claim otherwise is completely disingenuous.
 
So to begin with, I think Kane was absolutely gettable for a big fee.

That would’ve given ETH 2 years of a top, top CF at his peak and thus would buy ETH that future everyone’s going on about.

It would almost certainly also guarantee the club trophies, which is nice.

Then trust the scouts to actually do their job and find some cheap ‘potential for the future’ to act as back up to the PL proven goal scorer. Or possibly bring back MG as back up, which will cost nothing.

Again - in order for a manager to have a future at a big club, success in the present is needed. This is just the reality whether we like it or not.

And IF another striker isn’t brought in this window, or if MG isn’t returned, then those hoping for Højlund to have a nice, breezy, ‘pressure free’ few seasons to ‘develop and find his feet’ are in for a fecking rude awakening, because he will be the first choice 9 for Man Utd and will need to deliver on the pitch now.

I personally think ETH is planning on bringing back MG to rotate with Højlund because if not he’s basically risking his job on this, and with the Højlund fee, I’m not sure I see another striker being bought.
You think we would win the PL with Kane without strengthening midfield and a new gk? :lol:
 
You think we would win the PL with Kane without strengthening midfield and a new gk? :lol:

Kane plus Onana makes us a lot stronger than the route we’ve gone in my view. I would most definitely have sacrificed the Mount signing to get Kane.
 
Utter nonsense.

Posters who weren’t / aren’t that keen on the signing haven’t been insulting others, calling them toxic and ranting at them to stfu for having a different opinion.

That has been utterly one way, and to claim otherwise is completely disingenuous.

of course it's one way

you lot are the ones who are annoying everyone :lol:
 
We had the same thinking. It's kind of strange how a significantly older player with a relatively dubious past as a scorer is seen as a better investment when he isn't statistically better. Even if you were to downgrade Serie A goals by half, Toney wouldn't be that good of a gamble because his previous season was one where he registered 12 goals including 5 penalties. You need to have a lot of faith on his growth post 27 years old in order to justify a high fee.
Knowing Toney, if we bought him, he’ll probably be banned for betting on himself to score more than 15 goals in half a season.
 
I was taking about all competitions so around 45 to 55 games depending on how far we go in the cup competitions.

The thing is that while 15 might appear acceptable now, it might seem too little at the end of the season and than everyone will be on his back. That is a fact. 20 goals will be acceptable to most. My hope is he turns out better than I could imagine.
I doubt he’ll get that many games. I think 10-15 goals is a fairly realistic expectation, 20 is optimistic.
 
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