Agree. He's still very young and raw. 10 goals and I'd be happy. We overpaid a bit but that's not his fault.
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Yeah but lets not used either of those scrubs to gauge Hojlund's success or lack thereof, though now I say it I can definitely see it happening.
Honestly this is going to be a difficult player to discuss on this board. Prepare for years of "but he's young and can improve, why do you expect him to score like Haaland, but his link up" if he starts slowly and you deign to wonder how good he is.
I didn’t know that, thanks, and it now makes more sense, especially the Nkunku fee. But it does show that there were players available for less, which I guess is a factor when trying to consider (blindly guess) value-for-money.
All hypothetical though isn't it?
The club knew the Harry Kane situation very well from the very start of the window. That's the difference between the information they acted on and us sat here speculating about what we could or should have done.
Is that your interpretation of the reason behind the deal - or are somehow in the know?
You don't think that there is any chance that we are buying him - and paying the quoted fee - because ten Hag really likes him, because he's young and talented, and because Atalanta didn't want to sell him for any less?
Be hyped, enjoy the race boys. Højlund a Utd fan, we will se develop at the club to become a great CF. Forget about price and all that shite.. enjoy!!
of course it's one way
you lot are the ones who are annoying everyone
‘You lot’… ‘everyone’
Kane costs as much as Onana+ Mount+ Hojlund easily. If we had kept DeGea we also could not afford Kane.
Whether it was achievable or not was not the question being asked. I was addressing whether we needed Mount/Hojlund more than Kane on his own.
That said, if he ends up at Bayern for £80m, then I’d say it’s likely we didn’t try hard enough but, yes, I agree there is no way of knowing.
Guardian reported we didn't want to pay more than £60m.
‘You lot’… ‘everyone’
apologies that was a tad hyperbolic
it's only about 90% of the forum that gets annoyed
You know Levy does not want to sell to
us do you? It would take something like £120m. Also that’s the reason Kane is not at Man Cheaty.
Kane’s reported salary demands are £575k.
It’s clear we dropped our interest because there was no way it was going to happen.
You’re going to get hammered by the Top Red Brigade mate. Can’t be even remotely nervous about the Hojlund signing on this thread.
No you need to include salary as well. Ffs….Do you actually realise that you’re claiming Kane would’ve ‘easily cost’ £167m…?
Ffs
At this rate, Kane would have cost us 120m in transfer fee, plus 40m for agent fees, plus 750k/week in salary over 6 years, with a 1 year club option of course.
Great perspective. Welcome to the Caf and United. Hope everything works out well for everyone!
But, how can there even be a ‘you lot’, to oppose the ‘everyone’?
You do realise that different people will hold different opinions to yourself? You must come to accept this, find peace with it.
He would cost more when you add up the entire value of the transfer fee, agent fees, signing on fees, and the wages he reportedly wants.Do you actually realise that you’re claiming Kane would’ve ‘easily cost’ £167m…?
Ffs
The club quickly moved on from Kane for a very good reason. Accept it instead of pretending you know better
But it's still immaterial. I also don't think it would mean that. Or at least it isn't an obvious conclusion. But it definitely means they were okay with selling to Bayern Munich.
If we're going off gut feelings and hypotheticals my very strong suspicion is that if we put our eggs into the Harry Kane basket, we would be sat here as we speak deliberating over the fact we have made precisely zero outfield signings. Berating the fact we're being held to ransom, that we always get taken for a ride in long, drawn out affairs as Tottenham hold our summer hostage. In fact I have a very strong inclination that the people that find such fault in our negotiations for Hojlund and believe we should have pursued Kane would be struggling to reconcile the lack of progress with Kane with good negotiation as well.
And that situation probably wouldn't be about to change with any immediacy as we head into the last weeks of the window. Why do I think that? Bayern Munich are having trouble moving that one forward so it's not so much speculation as looking at a sequence of events that is playing out and the additional complexity Man United would have.
I'm referring to the posters who are always negative, it just gets so exhausting to read it all the time
thats what everyone has had enough of, in case it wasn't clear
has absolutely feckall to do with differing opinions
for what its worth I don't think you are one of them, I was just on a windup as per, although you seem to be taking pelters in this thread for some reason
Aaaah right, so you’ve included Mount, Onana’s and Højlund’s as of yet undisclosed wages in there have you?
What number did you come up with when you put all of them together?
Nervous? The negativity is something else on here. Deliberate as well: misquoting the transfer amounts, underestimating transfer values of other strikers, ignoring release clauses, all to make a point how horrible this signing is.
Besides, why be nervous? If you are on the frontlines in Ukraine walking through a mine field you get to be nervous. You don’t get to be nervous about a football player signing ffs.
It has everything to do with that, that’s literally all it is.
You’re telling people how they should think, or that they think ‘wrong’, cuz you don’t like it.
You also keep saying ‘everyone’ yet talking about some group of others so your ‘everyone’ is obviously not actually everyone is it.
It’s not the total amount, which is high, it’s the immediate return for a pretty raw 20 year old versus other options. 10-12 goals for a £72m fee vs. 30 goals for a £100m fee (Kane, potentially).
I'm far from a "top red" and have been extremely critical about the state of this club and how poorly it's been managed since Ferguson left. But even I'm getting fed up with the level of negativity that plagues these transfer threads. It's just incessant and some people come across as having literally no joy, positivity or optimism from anything the club does
It’s something like 200k for Mount and Onana, 100k for Hojlund. And consider resale values.Aaaah right, so you’ve included Mount, Onana’s and Højlund’s as of yet undisclosed wages in there have you?
What number did you come up with when you put all of them together?
If you get nervous over the thought of a football player your team signed not living up to expectations, you should really stop watching football.
And if you get emotional over people on a forum having a different opinion on a football player you should probably get professional help.
yeah it’s only about 90%
it’s a figure of speech
nah I don’t mind different opinions. It’s just relentless negativity that’s annoying
Best thing to do I guess is to just ignore his price and focus on his skillset and development.
The way I look at it, him and Garnacho are where Saka and Martinelli were in 2020/21. Being developed from young by EtH in our style of play could see these two step up in a couple of seasons to where the Arsenal lads eventually are.
The way I look at it, him and Garnacho are where Saka and Martinelli were in 2020/21. Being developed from young by EtH in our style of play could see these two step up in a couple of seasons to where the Arsenal lads eventually are.
How many times do you need the fact that Kane would not be sold for £100m to us explained to you? It was also £64m for Højlund with add-ons, so it's likely that if we have to pay for the add-ons, it would have been worth the fee.
Agree. It’s done, move on to what he can offer the team.
You’ve dug yourself into a hole here friend. He’s here, we’re all excited he’s joining. Expressing a tiny question mark at the size of the fee for a largely unproven talent versus other available 9s is not treason, it’s merely a comment.
You probably need to take a break. Comparing “nervous” in the sense that I was using it and a life and death situation in Ukraine is offensive to me and probably most in the Caf. Take it down a few notches ffs.
‘STOP BEING MISERABLE!!!1!!’
‘I’m not miserable, I just have a different opinion to you’
‘AAARRGGGHHH NO YOU DON’T!!!11!!’
‘I think I do, also you don’t seem very happy yourself’
‘I AM feckING HAPPY - STOP COMPLAINING’
‘But you’re complaining too’
‘I’M ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU. YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT FOOTBALL!!11!’
‘Ok… sorry?’
‘ARRRGGGHH!!1! YOU ENTITLED PRICK! DO AS I WANT YOU TO!! DONT SAY THINGS I DONT LIKE!!’
Don't embarrass yourself, mate. Who's getting emotional? Take a look at your post.
Ah. I see. So, the great @zaafi has set the market for Harry Kane. There’s plenty of reports (and the possibility that Levy would lose him for nothing) that he’ll be sold closer to €100m than £120m. Btw, the reported fee for Hojlund is £64m plus £8m add ons, which is closer to €84m in total, no?
You are…
Wish you'd texted Murtough to let him know we could've bought Kane for a few million more
I’m happy dude, and will be even happier when I figure out how to put some posters on ignore. I’m getting an acces denied error.
Glad you are ok with the negativity here, I’m not.
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