AFC NimbleThumb
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No worries bud, can copy & paste for my next why we shouldn’t have bought him postSorry I should have put white text , I feel bad you went to that effort
No worries bud, can copy & paste for my next why we shouldn’t have bought him postSorry I should have put white text , I feel bad you went to that effort
How can people be bumping his thread saying he’s not good enough after a 30 minutes cameo where he managed to get 2 good situations and other times was totally ignored by his teammates?
Statements like this are silly. How high would you rate him if United didn’t sign him this summer?If you don't rate him, you don't have an eye for talent.
Not the post-2012 one for sure.For a player of Dalot’s quality and brainlessness the pass wasn’t on.
Antonio Valencia would’ve found Hojlund there.
Hojlund didn’t wait for the pullback. Dalot is a hot head in those situations though we need betterNot the post-2012 one for sure.
The pass was only on with a pull back that take out the defender, passing at that angle and the speed he was running at would most likely end in a corner or throw in, regardless of the one attempting it. Still better than that shot though.
Statements like this are silly. How high would you rate him if United didn’t sign him this summer?
He obviously has talent, and he obviously isn’t ready for this level. As much as the attacking play around him isn’t good enough, he also needs to work on his movement and his all round attacking play.
What I can't understabd is how our players are not trying to find him more often. The only time I see us actually looking for him is with overhit crosses and cut-backs; we never seem to try to give him a little through-ball. His runs could occasionally be better, but the amount of times his runs aren't found is infuriating.
5 goals in 5 games in the CL. Goes both ways.0 goals 0 assists in 12. Teammates ignored him in all those 12 games?
Clear talent that is absolutely starved of chances....
Salah is 10th in the list of all-time PL scorers.Who was the last player signed from Serie A to do well in the Premier League? Seems like the ‘Bundesliga tax’ could equally apply to Serie A…Premier League level is just higher than everywhere else and Utds scouting team (is that a thing?) are not adept enough at picking out the right ones to bet on.
I mean he has had one called back, should have lead us thru the champions league group stage if not for onana, and is getting very little service. Not all that bad when you consider he started the year injured and is just getting fitWe are reaching the concerning territory with him. You can't be in December and score 0 goals in the league. The other thing is I just don't see a striker instinct with him. He works hard and holds the ball well but then on most occasions is hardly seen at the right place.
Maybe you should care about this.Don't care if you're new to the league and 'not getting the service'. Nearly half the season gone and no PL goal. Pathetic.
I can't tell if people are just making shit up without watching anymore just to fit in with a consensus on the forum. Hojlund's movement and instincts are the one thing that cannot be questioned. Hell watch him before he joined United, a lot of his goals for Atalanta and Denmark are tap ins from being in the correct place and creating space for himself with movement. The kind of goals he would have for us if our players weren't dead set on cutting inside and shooting the majority of the time, or weren't braindead like Dalot was today, shooting from an insanely impossible angle rather than just slotting across for a tap in.We are reaching the concerning territory with him. You can't be in December and score 0 goals in the league. The other thing is I just don't see a striker instinct with him. He works hard and holds the ball well but then on most occasions is hardly seen at the right place.
I can't tell if people are just making shit up without watching anymore just to fit in with a consensus on the forum. Hojlund's movement and instincts are the one thing that cannot be questioned. Hell watch him before he joined United, a lot of his goals for Atalanta and Denmark are tap ins from being in the correct place and creating space for himself with movement. The kind of goals he would have for us if our players weren't dead set on cutting inside and shooting the majority of the time, or weren't braindead like Dalot was today, shooting from an insanely impossible angle rather than just slotting across for a tap in.
Please tell me how many golden and dead cert chances he has missed? I can maybe count a couple, other than that he's had virtually nothing from anybody so please tell me what he is supposed to do? Only rarely does he create something for nothing for himself, like he did against Galatasaray, he's not that kind of forward. He's the kind of forward that thrives on service and having a boat load of chances.
Stats:
Haaland has 14 goals from 50 shots in the league - that's a 28% conversion rate
Hojlund has 0 goals from 12 shots in the league
If Hojlund's conversion rate were the same then he'd be on 3 goals at the most, but then you're asking him to be as good as Haaland with nowhere near the amount of chances being created for him which is an insane thing to ask because Haaland is arguably the best striker in the world.
So again, I ask, what do you actually want? If Hojlund is in that City side and gets 50 chances across 15 games like Haaland you think he'd be on 0 goals? You know damn well he wouldn't, this team is just dogshit and is playing to Hojlund's weaknesses.
He has things he needs to work on yes, but he's young and raw as everyone and United themselves knew when signing him, the point is to have patience, something none of the clowns posting on this forum can seem to give. You'd all rather dog pile on him and call the kid a flop before ever giving him a real chance, a quarter of the season and you all just can't help yourselves. A loss where he comes on as a sub later in the second half and his thread is constantly top of the recent posts dogging him instead of the absolute shit served up by the majority of the players like McTominay and Bruno who played from the start and contributed absolutely nothing. At least Hojlund gave a shit and got involved if nothing else.
He's a good young player, but the problem is we're banking on him going up a level or two and there's plenty of good young strikers that never become an Osimhen or a Kane. If you're spending £70m you might as well a little bit more and get more quality.
Hopefully he does get there, but with the team struggling for goals it doesn't help to add a young 20 year old for big money into the team
Ask the club and manager. I've said before, the price tag is not Hojlund's fault, his lack of chances is not his fault, his lack of experience is not his fault. I didn't say he is purely a tap in merchant, but he gets a chunk of goals from them because he has great movement in order to facilitate those kind of chances, the fact he has none should tell you that it's just something we rarely do, which again, is hardly his fault - perhaps our wingers should look for this option more often considering they can't hit the back of the net themselves. So instead of getting behind him and supporting him to try and make it at the club in what is a pretty shit situation for a lot of players there currently, everyone here is just shitting on him for all of the reasons i've mentioned instead, almost moreso than other players that are much more of a problem than him.Surely the question should be why did we spend 72m on a poacher style striker when for 18 months under ETH we’ve struggled the create chances and score goals? I mean he’s signed a ‘tap in merchant’ but plays with 2 inverted wingers in Rashford/Antony who’s main objective is to score goals not put a cross in it completely goes against the style of player Hojlund is
I can't tell if people are just making shit up without watching anymore just to fit in with a consensus on the forum. Hojlund's movement and instincts are the one thing that cannot be questioned. Hell watch him before he joined United, a lot of his goals for Atalanta and Denmark are tap ins from being in the correct place and creating space for himself with movement. The kind of goals he would have for us if our players weren't dead set on cutting inside and shooting the majority of the time, or weren't braindead like Dalot was today, shooting from an insanely impossible angle rather than just slotting across for a tap in.
Please tell me how many golden and dead cert chances he has missed? I can maybe count a couple, other than that he's had virtually nothing from anybody so please tell me what he is supposed to do? Only rarely does he create something for nothing for himself, like he did against Galatasaray, he's not that kind of forward. He's the kind of forward that thrives on service and having a boat load of chances.
Stats:
Haaland has 14 goals from 50 shots in the league - that's a 28% conversion rate
Hojlund has 0 goals from 12 shots in the league
If Hojlund's conversion rate were the same then he'd be on 3 goals at the most, but then you're asking him to be as good as Haaland with nowhere near the amount of chances being created for him which is an insane thing to ask because Haaland is arguably the best striker in the world.
So again, I ask, what do you actually want? If Hojlund is in that City side and gets 50 chances across 15 games like Haaland you think he'd be on 0 goals? You know damn well he wouldn't, this team is just dogshit and is playing to Hojlund's weaknesses.
He has things he needs to work on yes, but he's young and raw as everyone and United themselves knew when signing him, the point is to have patience, something none of the clowns posting on this forum can seem to give. You'd all rather dog pile on him and call the kid a flop before ever giving him a real chance, a quarter of the season and you all just can't help yourselves. A loss where he comes on as a sub later in the second half and his thread is constantly top of the recent posts dogging him instead of the absolute shit served up by the majority of the players like McTominay and Bruno who played from the start and contributed absolutely nothing. At least Hojlund gave a shit and got involved if nothing else.
At the moment he's as useful as Weghorst. Trying to wrestle defenders and putting in some running. He looks like Lukaku at times on the ball, yesterday he tried doing a couple of stepovers and fell over. His all round play isn't amazing, and obviously he's struggling to score.
He'll obviously get better in time but I do wonder exactly how good he'll be. Right now he looks levels below the likes of Ferguson, who is a year younger.
This is my concern as well. He might be an OK striker in a year or two, but I don't see a special talent here. In fact the only outstanding attribute I see is physicality.At the moment he's as useful as Weghorst. Trying to wrestle defenders and putting in some running. He looks like Lukaku at times on the ball, yesterday he tried doing a couple of stepovers and fell over. His all round play isn't amazing, and obviously he's struggling to score.
He'll obviously get better in time but I do wonder exactly how good he'll be. Right now he looks levels below the likes of Ferguson, who is a year younger.
Juventus sold Henry.Again, the guy was let go by FC Copenhagen 18 months before we signed him. Not sold because he was such a great talent, no, they didn’t really believe in him. There was always a question mark over him, and it hasn’t exactly diminished yet.
Slight difference between Juventus and FC Copenhagen.Juventus sold Henry.