Really scraping the barrel here. Praising him for having a shave, turning up on time and kicking another player in the leg.
Most mothered player in the history of football.
Most mothered player in the history of football.
Rashford | Villa | Loan with option to buy
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He looks like he treats games like training. So how he treats training is probably clear, which is what Ruben would have seen.
Yes exactly. I think the relationship between Radford and United is beyond repair.
Bit more effort for sure.
But no more quality than he has shown for the last 18 months. Hit the first man on his cross, fluffed a breakaway so bad he ended up kicking a defender when trying to strike the ball.
If he's done that in a red shirt, people would be saying he was shite. Because he largely was.
But no more quality than he has shown for the last 18 months. Hit the first man on his cross, fluffed a breakaway so bad he ended up kicking a defender when trying to strike the ball.
If he's done that in a red shirt, people would be saying he was shite. Because he largely was.
It doesn't matter how well he does, it will always leave the question in my mind of why he stopped doing that for United.
I know he isn't fully responsible for this breakdown, the club and the multiple managers he's played under have to take some share of the blame. However, at the end of the day you are responsible for your own performances and approach to work. He wasn't even getting in the squad towards the end, and that's all on him.
I know he isn't fully responsible for this breakdown, the club and the multiple managers he's played under have to take some share of the blame. However, at the end of the day you are responsible for your own performances and approach to work. He wasn't even getting in the squad towards the end, and that's all on him.
I dont even think its United. Rashford and football is beyond repair.
He has had everything on a plate since his debut and has stolen a living due to purple patches. Sooner or later, people will catch on, it seems they have which is why VIlla was his only real option.
He still has Barca dreams, he is chasing a dream that he is unable to obtain. He can barely get into a Villa team, what hopes does he have for Barca... I would say 0.
"Amorim HUMILIATED by Sancho as Rashford stars on Aston Villa debut"
Hehe I just love the idea some nobody typing that article out...Rashford must be an absolute cert for the next England team now after that 20 mins display!
Hehe I just love the idea some nobody typing that article out...Rashford must be an absolute cert for the next England team now after that 20 mins display!
It's been clear for a while that he's lost pace. You never see him burning past defenders the way he used to even a few seasons ago.
As United fans we should be more desperate for Rashford to do well at Villa than anyone. He's on 325k a week at United and with contract until 2028. Could be stuck with him if he fails this loan and clubs decide not to take him.
Rashford usually has decent G/A stats even when not performing well so hopefully now he combines both good performances and good stats and either Villa, Barca or some other team buys him. Villa seems like a good place (especially with their style of play) to get his career back on track.
Rashford usually has decent G/A stats even when not performing well so hopefully now he combines both good performances and good stats and either Villa, Barca or some other team buys him. Villa seems like a good place (especially with their style of play) to get his career back on track.
Just based on the clips, it looks a pretty impressive cameo debut for someone who hasn’t played for 2 months. It is going to be fascinating to see how he does for the rest of the season.
I was shocked after watching back his cameo, because I didn’t catch the game and from reading twitter you’d have thought he absolutely tore Spurs to shreds.
Seemed bang average to me with a bit more effort as you said.
It wasn't particularly.
Yes that is very fair. Too much too young is a real issue. I will be very interested in how things go with A Villa and I very much doubt Emery will put up with anything less than 100% commitment. Same for the Villa fans I suspect.
Rashford has been having issues at United for a couple years now, his best buddy was removed, he's been called out by the fans and media, new coach has dropped him, called out by name, and asked for him to be moved on. He's got a point to prove to Amorim, United, media/pundits, fans, England manager, the greater football world. He's gone to a club he didn't want because none of the clubs he wanted came calling. He has to prove himself to get that move or reestablish his united career. He wants to go to get back in the England squad and make the American WC. Essentially, this is Rashford at absolute peak motivation, he's got it all to play for, yesterday was game one, all eye's on him, and "he was lively".
That's it, everything to play for and nothing looked different. I saw comments in here about him scoring 15 goals in the remainder of the season, at this point I will be surprised if he scores 15 more goals in top flight football, if he couldn't get motivated yesterday to actually do something productive, now I am convinced more than ever that he doesn't possess the skills or mentality to prove anyone wrong.
That's it, everything to play for and nothing looked different. I saw comments in here about him scoring 15 goals in the remainder of the season, at this point I will be surprised if he scores 15 more goals in top flight football, if he couldn't get motivated yesterday to actually do something productive, now I am convinced more than ever that he doesn't possess the skills or mentality to prove anyone wrong.
I’m not sure how that’s relevant to Rashford. We can argue that putting him on £200k a week at 21 was too high. However, the reality is that he then put up 30GA+ seasons in 3 of 4 seasons under that contract. Without him, we don’t qualify for the Champions League in those 3 seasons. In that time-frame, we’ve also brought in some of the most expensive forward players on the planet and they have universally failed to get anywhere near Rashford’s level. There’s no doubt that he justified every penny of that contract.
Rashford seems to have lost focus at age 25/26. I doubt that has much to do with having a £300k contract instead of £200k. It seems far more likely that he’s had personal issues, has lost some motivation for football and/or has been disappointed with the progress of the club and has become disenchanted at United. We simply don’t know but have to trust that the club has made the right decision.
Shhh, we need Unai to believe that it was. It’s worth £40m and Rashy’s wages off the books!
I see it as pretty mich a no lose scenario for United...the ABU media will big up every bang average performance he'll have (of which there will be many) which bumps up his price and interest in him.
What was made clear yesterday was Villa have better players than we have in almost every position. If he can't cut it with those players around him then he'd struggle in the Championship.
If he's in the right frame of mind (which is of course the big question) he could be a big success at Villa.
Looked sharp when he came on. Lucky there was no VAR as he could have seen red for the elbow on the first incident with the Villa defender.
Didn't sit right with me though seeing him in a Villa jersey.
If he's in the right frame of mind (which is of course the big question) he could be a big success at Villa.
Looked sharp when he came on. Lucky there was no VAR as he could have seen red for the elbow on the first incident with the Villa defender.
Didn't sit right with me though seeing him in a Villa jersey.
I think it will go fine, I am sure Rashford will put his head down and commit 100%. This is the good thing about this loan, there is a higher probability of him doing really well because he has something to prove.
Its a case of mis selling a player. Villa could end up being really happy with Rashford where his ego takes over and then he thinks oh I can do better than Villa and send his agent for another European tour to come back empty handed.
The problem is, once he secures the permanent deal, it will be same old Rashford again.
When the truth all comes out in the future we will see this is/was a Rashford problem. In fact the club has been bending over backwards to help him but to no avail.
3.6 roentgen.
But I don’t think clubs will fall for it. Like when Maguire went through his bad patch, the media and pundits were protecting him blaming others however every football fan knew it wasn’t that.
The media just go against United’s interest.
The fact that we’ve noticed that he’s competed in aerial duels, tells you all you need to know about him.
I suspect he’ll do well at Villa for a while. But the fact he’s put more effort in last night than he has done for seasons with us, tells us all about his attitude than it does United. The club has problems, we can clearly see that, but to not put effort in on the pitch is worthy of been forced out. This isn’t about Amorin, it’s been about Rashford for many years and many different managers. He will default to normal given time, just like Sancho. We won’t miss him at all.
It was relevant to me anyway if not you.
Sure, you are right, whatever his relationship with managers, the system, poor form, and anything else used in his defence, there is no excuse for a lack of effort.
the fact that his wage is so ridiculously high is not his fault, but a lack of effort, unprofessional conduct (pubs/clubs etc ) and all the while at his supposedly
much-loved boyhood club are entirely down to him.
We often see players have a great patch, of 1 to 2 seasons in an otherwise ordinary career, in his case he was rewarded too early and way too much.
If you compare his attitude with Ronaldo at similar stages in each career, Ronaldo had all the skill, and worked extremely hard to make the most of it,
That is why Ronaldo is still performing today, if he keeps going like he is, Rashford will just be a distant memory at the same age.
In almost 60 years of supporting United, I've seen quite a few ( not just at United ) waste so much potential, at the moment looks like he is going to be
another for that list.
Even Amorim says he wasn't, going by his latest comments.
In terms of wondering whether ETH and Emery are covering for him and only Amorim was willing to speak the truth?
Agreed.
I think its obvious that he thinks villa are beneath him.
he said in an interview that he's going to do his best. for them even though he's not going to be there for very long
he said in an interview that he's going to do his best. for them even though he's not going to be there for very long
Here comes Rashford FC
There was nothing impressive about it, if he'd played like that here we'd still be saying it was below par.
Ya it’s really anything but
Can’t make my mind up whether, in some of these clips we’ve seen, he just cba or he is spaced out on sleeping pills he is allegedly using. Certainly didn’t look all there in his interview
Just hoping he can keep up this “dazzling” form and somebody falls for it (the media and some on here have) leading to a permanent move from OT
Just hoping he can keep up this “dazzling” form and somebody falls for it (the media and some on here have) leading to a permanent move from OT
This. The replays didn't show anything he hasn't already done for us... he looks great taking the ball down then runs out of talent at the touchline.
Ohh there's about a 6 digit reason why and it starts with the number '3'
Marcus is more interested in courtside tickets to see the Knicks play than putting the effort into training for the new manager.
Interesting point about the loan. Because he is trying to win a permanent deal, maybe some of that pre-contract renewal enthusiasm at United will shine through and Villa pull the trigger on a permanent deal.
Not convinced that it is Villa’s option over Rashford’s head. “Here for a short time “ doesn’t sound like it to me. Still, you’re probably right in saying he is playing for a better offer, regardless of what that might be. Of course the media will have us believe he is suddenly the reincarnation of Maradonna, as per Sancho, Martial, Scoddy and Antony.
I know I'm In the miniscule here but I thought Rashford started off his career better as a striker than a winger.
Even Van Gaal called him a young Kluivert and I remember seeing Rashford scoring tap ins and headers.
Him becoming a winger made his game rely on too much speed and especially technicality which he might have lacked but he wouldnt have to have relied on as much as a central striker.
Even for us when he would play as a RF instead of a LW he wouldn't exactly look out of his position because Rashford for me was a CF that switched position to LW due to below average management.
I believe the same with Martial, him being moved to LW by Mourinho to accommodate Lukaku as a striker really halted his development as a player overall.
When you compare players like Salah or Saka, they are not just goalscorers, they are very creative players that can create from outwide.
Rashford was never that player & for me he was a very good young striker at one point made to switch position unnecessarily.
Even Van Gaal called him a young Kluivert and I remember seeing Rashford scoring tap ins and headers.
Him becoming a winger made his game rely on too much speed and especially technicality which he might have lacked but he wouldnt have to have relied on as much as a central striker.
Even for us when he would play as a RF instead of a LW he wouldn't exactly look out of his position because Rashford for me was a CF that switched position to LW due to below average management.
I believe the same with Martial, him being moved to LW by Mourinho to accommodate Lukaku as a striker really halted his development as a player overall.
When you compare players like Salah or Saka, they are not just goalscorers, they are very creative players that can create from outwide.
Rashford was never that player & for me he was a very good young striker at one point made to switch position unnecessarily.
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I don’t think after the back injury Rashford has the physicality to be a striker, he’s not got that fight in him anymore.
His best periods came on the wing, for me. I don't feel like he ever fully understood how to play the striker role effectively
Media only? The fans too.. I still see fans talking about Sancho's great spell at Dortmund last season because he had 1 good game against PSG.
Sky sports done a whole spread on him then, only for him to be so good that Dortmund couldn't afford 25m.
Rashford will be the same, they will talk about the system, everything if he has 2/3 good games.
Thats all he needs for the media and fans to gas light him.