Rashford - New contract or sell?

What to do with Marcus Rashford...


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We will regret giving him a new contract. Try to get someone like kvicha from Napoli, or Leao from Milan. Our team will be much better for it.
 
I know that but I meant more in the broader sense (Also wishful thinking but would be nice if players agreed they deserved to just continue on with their current pay).

Yeah. It's kinda obvious to say that any contract offer need to satisfy both sides. So far, most suggestions are "give him new contract" (which is hinting that the wage doesn't matter as long as he stays),
or "give him xx with xxx clauses" (where all is kinda wishful thinking in our part that player (and his agent) puts the Club's interest above his).
 
If we were judging our players on last season alone then we may as well bin them all off, they were all shocking (barring Ronaldo who everyone now wants to get rid of... ironic much?)

Lets write off last season there is nothing else for it, I don't know that Rashdford has done anything this season to warrant an improved contract, however no agent worth his salt would allow him to accept a reduced contract at his age.

How much would it cost to replace Rashford? we just paid £70+ million for Antony, who I like but does he offer anything more than Rashford? cannot see that, and how much before that on what's his name? I forget because he disappears so much... oh yeah Sancho... I see in the Transfer forum people talking about spunking huge wads, on unproved strikers, not saying Rashford was ever worth the contract he currently has but replacing him would be a significantly higher cost and no guarantees.

Getting rid of Rashford is quite honestly ridiculous maybe if he gets forced out of the team by incoming player performances, but we are talking at least the end of next season before that is a remote possibilty.

I would gamble on this, because I dont see another team that would offer him the dizzy wages that he would demand from us.
 
I’m still not entirely sold on his mentality and whether he’s committed enough to be a starter for us, but I’m super happy seeing him in a decent shape and if he maintains the form I’d love him to stay
 
50 goals if you want so much a threshold.. Ronaldo scored 20+ goals last year too. We should not have kept him. Rashford general game is still below any top player and his overall game still harms us. He plays as a hybrid of striker/winger, because he is average at both. Of course you expect him to score goals, because he is not a championship player, but a talented PL player. If he couldn't score, he would be playing a division below. If a new contract comes with what he offers, i. e. mediocrity, then fine. But I expect that his new contract will be close to what some fans and media think of him: world class. But he is not. And will never be.
Keeps getting worse & worse. What a terrible hill to choose to die on.
 
Would you take this if you were in his shoes?
Well I feel if the club go full mental and offer a 5 year contract on 300k a week we will all be saying what a waste when he doesnt perform again. He needs some incentive to keep his performances up I think. He has the WC in mind as well as wanting a new contract to motivate him at the moment.
 
I would gamble on this, because I dont see another team that would offer him the dizzy wages that he would demand from us.

Well if they are getting him for 25m or less next summer they prob would stump up the same or more. I’d give him a contract if he’s playing like this all year but not anything better and more incentive driven. He’s not an auto starter for me long term. You can’t keep bowing to improved terms no matter what the output from players.
 
Surprised so many are still sceptical despite being one of our best players this season

Last year is very fresh in a lot of minds. It's the fear that we'll give him a new long term contract which will set him up for life and he'll ease off the performances. We don't want another Lingered situation on our hands.

Personally I'm happy enough to keep him at the right price, it can't be world class money. The problem is players like Sancho are hugely overpaid and Rashford and his agent are looking at them and saying, why not me too?
 
Surprised so many are still sceptical despite being one of our best players this season
Why not skeptical ? We scored 17 goals in 12 games and in these most of the games it was Rashford leading the attack line . Surely he picked up some form and perform better than Ronaldo / Sancho / Martial (barely available) , but he also missed so many clean-cut chances. With his demanded pay grade, we could find a better replacement in the market.
 
Surprised so many are still sceptical despite being one of our best players this season

His contract will be expensive. His attitude is questionable. He has some quite big issues in his game still despite being 25 and at United for close to 7 years. Standing out as a goal scorer in a side with a complete crock and an over the hill Ronaldo isn't high praise.

I think he is worth another contract but not the one he will want.
 
I’m not getting a good impression of some of the posts in this thread. Either WUM’s or people who don’t know what they’re talking about. Rashford was top drawer yesterday. The way he took his goal was lethal. On this form he’s up there with the best in the World. EtH is transforming Rashford because he’s always had the skill set & physical attributes.
I think you are the WUM here. Rashford isnt anywhere close to that and everyone knows it.
He has had 3 good games this season which is a vast improvement but get a grip on reality please.
 
Surprised so many are still sceptical despite being one of our best players this season

hes been dogshit for two years and has a few good weeks and people are jumping up and down hailing the return of Rashford.

He is getting better - this is great but he has a long way to go as he was never this fecking messiah in the first place - his pre shit spell had loads of room for improvement.

The fact he is getting better is really positive, and the new manager seems to be good for him, so net positives for him and the team and long may it continue.
But people need to relax and see where he is in two seasons time - he has show his mentality is weak in the very recent past leading to utterly dire performances. People have short memories.
Rashford has to keep improving as a player and with his current trajectory I see no reason why he doesnt do that.
 
Would you take this if you were in his shoes?
Who gives him better than £200k per week?
Unless some newly promoted team does a Lingard type punt with a 1 year deal, I would say no one is giving him a 4/5 year contract above £200k.
 
Who gives him better than £200k per week?
Unless some newly promoted team does a Lingard type punt with a 1 year deal, I would say no one is giving him a 4/5 year contract above £200k.

Sancho had done less and a CLub gave him 350k/wk, on top of 70m transfer fee. Grealish is on (officially) 300k/wk on top of 100m transfer fee.

There will be CLubs lining up to sign Rashford at 200+k/wk on free.

And, once again, it is United fault to let a player runs down his contract to 1 year left, and leave him with that kind of negotiation power.
 
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We will regret giving him a new contract. Try to get someone like kvicha from Napoli, or Leao from Milan. Our team will be much better for it.

FFS the team will be better with players we have no idea about (in the context of them playing for the club) than a player we do

Mental take
 
hes been dogshit for two years and has a few good weeks and people are jumping up and down hailing the return of Rashford.

He is getting better - this is great but he has a long way to go as he was never this fecking messiah in the first place - his pre shit spell had loads of room for improvement.

The fact he is getting better is really positive, and the new manager seems to be good for him, so net positives for him and the team and long may it continue.
But people need to relax and see where he is in two seasons time - he has show his mentality is weak in the very recent past leading to utterly dire performances. People have short memories.
Rashford has to keep improving as a player and with his current trajectory I see no reason why he doesnt do that.

I see this nonsense posted by several people - the fact is that Marcus Rashford scored 21 goals AND 15 assists in 2020/21. That's also a season where he played the last half of season with an injury

How the feck can anyone describe that as a 'dogshit' season?

He had 1 bad season after major surgery when our entire club was a mess
 
I see this nonsense posted by several people - the fact is that Marcus Rashford scored 21 goals AND 15 assists in 2020/21. That's also a season where he played the last half of season with an injury

How the feck can anyone describe that as a 'dogshit' season?

He had 1 bad season after major surgery when our entire club was a mess
Because there is more to football than stats. How did his general play affect the rest of the team and the team performances?
 
Tough one but yeah, sell while his stock is high again. Won’t happen but I just think he’s best suited when the game is stretched, and he’s coming fresh off the bench. In that situation he is a scary player to face. There is definitely a player in there but if someone were to offer us 60MM+ we should seriously consider it. Obviously we won’t and thats fine by me too, I hope he kicks on but I don’t see him being a top 20 player in his position. But, that’s okay. If he can get us 20 G+A a year then he’s still a very valuable member of the team.
 
Because there is more to football than stats. How did his general play affect the rest of the team and the team performances?

considering the ENTIRE club sucked during that season, from Board Room to Kit man I would think a guy who has produced goals his entire career and literally played with a broken back and needing shoulder surgery because of his love of this club would be the ONE player out of the 25 or so that were horrible that season to get the benefit of the doubt.
 
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Last year is very fresh in a lot of minds. It's the fear that we'll give him a new long term contract which will set him up for life and he'll ease off the performances. We don't want another Lingered situation on our hands.

Personally I'm happy enough to keep him at the right price, it can't be world class money. The problem is players like Sancho are hugely overpaid and Rashford and his agent are looking at them and saying, why not me too?
You mean the season where he had shoulder surgery in the August? How dare he have a bad season after surgery.
 
I see this nonsense posted by several people - the fact is that Marcus Rashford scored 21 goals AND 15 assists in 2020/21. That's also a season where he played the last half of season with an injury

How the feck can anyone describe that as a 'dogshit' season?

He had 1 bad season after major surgery when our entire club was a mess
The only dogshit in this whole conversation is relying on numbers and not watching his performances which seems like an increasingly common trend.

Ronaldo was getting so much flack even after scoring the goals he did last year because he impacts the way we play but apparently as long as Rashy scores a goal, he can stink up the place for 90 minutes.
 
Still sell. He's an average to sometimes good player that doesn't match his current wages, let alone a pay increase of a new contract.

It's but guarenteed the club will re-sign him to at least Sancho wages.
 
considering the ENTIRE club sucked during that season, from Board Room to Kit man I would think a guy who has produced goals his entire career and literally played with a broken back and needing shoulder surgery because of his love of this club would be the ONE player out of the 25 or so that were horrible that season to get the benefit of the doubt.
Not sure why, but I don't feel like his love of the club is particularly genuine. I think it serves his image to suggest it is though.
 
Not sure why, but I don't feel like his love of the club is particularly genuine. I think it serves his image to suggest it is though.
If a Manchester born lad, fan, academy player and subsequently a first teamer doesn't love the club then what hope is there that anyone does?
 
If a Manchester born lad, fan, academy player and subsequently a first teamer doesn't love the club then what hope is there that anyone does?
What does his description of him have to do with loving the club? Talk about delusion.
 
Because there is more to football than stats. How did his general play affect the rest of the team and the team performances?

It's impossible for any attacking player in the world to get 21 goals and 15 assists in a season and be anything other than an asset to the team

Rashford was immense for the first half of that season, his form dropped off after he got his injury but still he added to the G+A.
Then the injury increasingly started to take its toll and he did struggle towards the end of the season as he played on half fit because he didn't want to miss the Euros. fans with the memory of a goldfish seem just to remember those last months whereas the season as a whole was undoubtedly a good one for Marcus.


The only dogshit in this whole conversation is relying on numbers and not watching his performances which seems like an increasingly common trend.

Ronaldo was getting so much flack even after scoring the goals he did last year because he impacts the way we play but apparently as long as Rashy scores a goal, he can stink up the place for 90 minutes.

Ye because Ronaldo scored goals and nowt else (3 assists in whole season) so there was a legit debate to be had about his performances

Rashford got FIFTEEN assists that season - there is no way this kind of output can be described as 'dogshit' unless you have a serious agenda

Again I'll remind that he played the last months of that season with an injury (a mistake in hindsight) which makes those numbers even more impressive
 
Last season was a fecking mess for UTD and Rashford personally. This is a new start for him and a few others as well , he has started the season pretty well and his recent performances have been like he was few season ago. So for me I'd give him a new deal otherwise we try to sell for not a lot or he goes on a free?

I'd keep him rather than sell and hope a new guy is going to be better?? Also I think he's getting coached better by this regime, his last few games he's arriving with late runs to get on to crosses, either by Headers or shots. New deal imo
 
What does his description of him have to do with loving the club? Talk about delusion.
Myabe he does, he just comes across as more of a politician then footballer, he just says all the right things, at the right times, puts out I'm training hard pics, etc... it just screams of PR team, not genuine local lad.
 
Several months ago, I would've been 'sell' in a heartbeat, but I can't help but think the old Rashford is starting to return, this time with a manager that will keep him on his toes. Still shouldn't be our #9 though.
 
How is that delusion you weapon? You don't think someone who's been with the club since he was a kid loves United?
:lol: . Just like Lingard, right?

He certainly loves collecting the bag, including last season when he couldn't be arsed to walk, and it helps his image to be associated with the club directly, especially when intellectuals such as yourself have wet dreams about him because it must be so.


Myabe he does, he just comes across as more of a politician then footballer, he just says all the right things, at the right times, puts out I'm training hard pics, etc... it just screams of PR team, not genuine local lad.
My impression as well. And even if he might care somewhat, there are some very suspicious individuals in his close circle, who like arranging meetings with PSG and leaking stories to that effect when the bag needs to be secured.
 
The idea that we should sell… seems pretty ridiculous when you consider the club have only just spent £90m on a player for the other flank who is not as good as Rashford.
 
:lol: . Just like Lingard, right?

He certainly loves collecting the bag, including last season when he couldn't be arsed to walk, and it helps his image to be associated with the club directly, especially when intellectuals such as yourself have wet dreams about him because it must be so.



My impression as well. And even if he might care somewhat, there are some very suspicious individuals in his close circle, who like arranging meetings with PSG and leaking stories to that effect when the bag needs to be secured.
Yes, just like Lingard.
 
Myabe he does, he just comes across as more of a politician then footballer, he just says all the right things, at the right times, puts out I'm training hard pics, etc... it just screams of PR team, not genuine local lad.
And what would one of them be?
 
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