I don't disagree with your general point but we both know there's no way in hell we're buying 3 players on his level, let alone better and paying them accordingly
Rashford - New contract or sell?
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I’d sell him.
Mediocre striker, decent wide player. We should aim higher.
With some good scouting perhaps we can find a cheap and better replacement like Napels has done with Kvaratskhelia
At the moment though he is by far our best attacking players and that is remarkable in a squad containing Ronaldo, Sancho, Antony, Martial and Bruno.
I hope we will find a solution to our ineffective attacking play, at some point it will cost us, our defense can’t keep bailing us out.
Mediocre striker, decent wide player. We should aim higher.
With some good scouting perhaps we can find a cheap and better replacement like Napels has done with Kvaratskhelia
At the moment though he is by far our best attacking players and that is remarkable in a squad containing Ronaldo, Sancho, Antony, Martial and Bruno.
I hope we will find a solution to our ineffective attacking play, at some point it will cost us, our defense can’t keep bailing us out.
I'm not his biggest fan - I always preferred Martial's style, but the vitriol and insanity here...
I'm not his biggest fan - I always preferred Martial's style, but the vitriol and insanity here...
3 of those I have on ignore
Erm. Must’ve quoted me by mistake. I said he was clear of Mbappe earlier…
I would wait until the end of the season to extend. He can go through looong down patches, I wouldn't risk paying him before he can prove he can do it for longer stretches
One year rolling contract for the next 2-3 years. If he has shown improvements at that stage only then should a lengthy contract be considered.
What vitriol? His decision making is one of his major flaws. You just need to put the rashford tinted glasses of and watch him closely.
Every match:
-he goes for potshots instead of going for a cross/pass
-he ignores our fullbacks numerous times for a layoff when in space.
-he tries backheel flicks that don't find the target
-he dwells on the ball for far too long
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Every match:
-he goes for potshots instead of going for a cross/pass
-he ignores our fullbacks numerous times for a layoff when in space.
-he tries backheel flicks that don't find the target
-he dwells on the ball for far too long
...
Would be nice but will never happen.
Even with patchy form he’d still be worth keeping as a squad player but he looks like he’s recaptured his form from the seasons before last. Might have been a perfect storm of squad issues, United being a mess behind the scenes and the spotlight on him for the non football stuff. Ultimately the cost to replace him wouldn’t be worth risking letting him go
surely it's better economically to keep him even as a squad player than lose him on a free?
i don't think his decision making is perfect, it's okish. i think he's selfish. i don't think his close control is good. he's poor back to goal.
on the other hand he's very fast, he links up well with his fullback (yes, he ignores some runs, but if he chose to pass every time that would be wrong too), a decent finisher, and as a package an excellent counter-attacking forward. he has comfortably crossed 30 G+A in 2 of the past 3 seasons, putting him in a pretty elite category, and his last season was injury hit and an obvious low point, from which he has already improved drastically.
you called him retarded and a cnut. that's the vitriol.
Has got 10 goal contributions in 15 games. The next best is Eriksen with 5 goal contributions. He was our second best contributor the season before last. Last year was a bad season yeah but thinking we should sell one of our best contributors is crazy.
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Practically everything you say.
No doubt you were one of the ones beating the Sancho drum not too long ago and how Rashford wouldn't get a look in under a prior coach. Turns out he's vastly improved.
What Sancho drum? I didn't even want him signed
What gets overlooked about him is this what manager has he played for until now who has been anything above mid, if we'd have better managers he could have even more goals.
He'll be getting that new contract absolutely no worries about that, here is to the next 100 goals
He'll be getting that new contract absolutely no worries about that, here is to the next 100 goals
But what if he scored 41?
I think he will only continue to improve under ETH. I hope they both are here for a long time.
And, I will always have a soft spot for the pen vs PSG. One of the best moments we have had in the past few years. Took some serious stones as a young man to make that one.
And, I will always have a soft spot for the pen vs PSG. One of the best moments we have had in the past few years. Took some serious stones as a young man to make that one.
The whole "mental issue" (surprisingly his best bud "issue" too while in here) doesn't explain his severely lack of effort on the pitch for (almost) the whole last season.
Absolutely love the effort he put in and output he has this season, though. And he's United academy product also, which still means something (for me at least).
It's just his wage demand is probably equal or more than his current one, which is absurd (for non-financially dopped Club, like United). But then if he continue his current form for the whole season, he probably slightly deserves it. And he might improve under EtH also, which is more likely when you see even DDG is still improving at his age.
Absolutely love the effort he put in and output he has this season, though. And he's United academy product also, which still means something (for me at least).
It's just his wage demand is probably equal or more than his current one, which is absurd (for non-financially dopped Club, like United). But then if he continue his current form for the whole season, he probably slightly deserves it. And he might improve under EtH also, which is more likely when you see even DDG is still improving at his age.
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We don't have a salary cap, and it's not our money. And this team extended the likes of Jones and Bailey to higher contracts so it doesn't seem like £30k here or there will make much difference.
Yes because the perfect footballer without an ego who makes the correct decision in every moment during every match exists.
He was really poor when this thread was created. At that time it really looked like he would not make it back
Good to see him regaining his form, looks like he has improved his headers too. Scoring headers is all well and good, he used to give defender free pass to control aerial passes, now at least he tries to win headers against CBs.
Right now he is our only attacker who is in form and producing decent numbers.
Right now he is our only attacker who is in form and producing decent numbers.
The same.
It did get him 6 and half years to reach 100 goals, so I doubt he can score more than 25 goals in a season.
People are so knee-jerk. One goal and suddenly he is amazing. Well, he is not: he is still a mediocre player, with some good attributes, one of the biggest contracts in the world, and questionable attitude.
New contract surely, if anything to get posters like the one above even more mad and the other usual suspects.
One goal?
We should just remain calm about the situation. Why go overboard and try to justify what I presume is an entrenched position that he should be sold no matter what when we're a fraction of the way through the season?
By the same reasoning we shouldn't just throw a contract his way the moment his form improves. The new standard at Manchester United should be good seasons and good habits the manager is happy with not good periods of matches.
If he's happy here, which I presume he is - he'll sign one now or in the summer so there is no panic I can see. Panic buys and panic renewals has been part of our problem.
By the same reasoning we shouldn't just throw a contract his way the moment his form improves. The new standard at Manchester United should be good seasons and good habits the manager is happy with not good periods of matches.
If he's happy here, which I presume he is - he'll sign one now or in the summer so there is no panic I can see. Panic buys and panic renewals has been part of our problem.
New contract but on less than his current one and bump it up with performance bonuses. Hes still really limited in too many ways to be a truly elite and versatile forward in a top team but the difference between this season and last is stark. That honestly worries me though. Hes 25. I don't want a player who should be hitting his peak whos form blows from good to awful on the whims of his mood.
I just read his comments and I’m a bit confused as to why more isn’t being made of them. He basically said he didn’t give a shit last season. Nothing about injuries or whatnot. Just that he wasn’t in the right headspace.
That is purely on him and no way the club or the fans should be trusting him at this point. He had no excuses to not have his mind on football as he is paid a king’s wage to play bloody football.
He got into the team at 18 years old you're really saying those 1st years has should have got more goals? Very few players actually do that.
If anything he should have got the 100 last season and be pushing 100+ already but he jad a bad year which he himself acknowledges
What about 42?
What's the threshold where you'd say to yourself ''Might be useful keeping him around actually.''
45 goals? 50 goals?
He's played most of his career as a winger so that's understandable and he's only turned 25 today. In the history of the club only 5 players have scored 100 goals for us in less games. Best, Law, Rooney RVN and Ronaldo? (I believe).
He scored 22 goals the season before last so 25 isn't far fetched. But at the same time we'd be in trouble if we're relying on wingers getting 25 goals a season.
I think you have to weigh it up with his previous seasons as well. Yeah he was awful last season but he had back to back 20 goal seasons the years before, with injuries. I think we have seen enough under eth to renew, but then I voted renew before the season started, always had faith he would recapture his form.
Looking forward to his well deserved new contract
Great to see Marcus in a good mental space and proving the haters wrong once again
Great to see Marcus in a good mental space and proving the haters wrong once again
50 goals if you want so much a threshold.. Ronaldo scored 20+ goals last year too. We should not have kept him. Rashford general game is still below any top player and his overall game still harms us. He plays as a hybrid of striker/winger, because he is average at both. Of course you expect him to score goals, because he is not a championship player, but a talented PL player. If he couldn't score, he would be playing a division below. If a new contract comes with what he offers, i. e. mediocrity, then fine. But I expect that his new contract will be close to what some fans and media think of him: world class. But he is not. And will never be.
Anyone using this word to even begin making a point (which you've failed) is essentially putting themselves in RedCafe's category of Lingard posters.
Ok great to know and one to keep an eye on now. If he hits 50 goals this season we should DM him on Twitter and let him know led_scholes off Redcafe thinks he's worth a new contract now.
Which top players are we talking about here?
The same is true of virtually any forward at any level.
Did you actually watch him yesterday? I’ve never seen Rashford score a headed goal like that and he had an other similar effort as well. Almost Ronaldo like both efforts and the way he was attacking the 6 yard box was a massive improvement. He’s come on leaps & bounds under ten Hag, on this form a new contract is a no brainer as he’s one of the best attackers in the World.
If Southgate throws out 352 for 433 and plays Rashford & Saka on the wings then England will be serious contenders this WC, the prospect those Rashford, Saka and Kane is frightening.
Yes. Too bad it will never happen though.
Antony.
Correct. Thats why he deserves to play in PL. Just not a starter in possession or pressing teams.
Because people are scared of saying anything other than positive things when it comes to mental health. I am all for people trying to be as happy and healthy as possible but I am not of the view that the world owes you anything or that everyone else should bend over backwards if you are not suited to a particular career or lifestyle. If a job is too stressful for you and thats the nature of the job then you need to find another job.
If you cannot find motivation in getting paid £200k+/week or can't simply behave like a highly paid professional then you need to find another job or move somewhere that has less pressure. He wasn't off the boil last season he was stone cold. Couldn't have given fewer shits.
Nice to see him happy and performing again but hes currently coming close to justifying his wage again, no more. If he has another extended spell of poor form and attitude he should be sold.
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