Rashford considering his future...

You've missed my point. They all did training out there. They didn't just go there to joke around. Same like when Pogba/other players go there when injured. Those places are set up literally for that purpose. For athletes to train in warm weather and also not get bored in their rest/down time.

It's not an evil place when you're an athlete. Migrant worker? That's different. Ronaldo, Pogba and Rashford all go there for the same reason. High-quality training facilities and relaxation.

Do you think the high quality training facilities are working?
 
Has weak fundamentals and decisionmaking so trying harder in his case means running into 5 defenders instead of the usual 3. He has a ways to go to truly shine as a lone striker in a team that doesn't set up like a glorified Stoke. It's also a shame this is actually the first time since Rashford broke through we're no longer relying on pragmatic setups. He was made to learn his trade under negative managers. .

Rashford's struggles are on a whole different level of unprecedented garbage. We can't put it on the collective because the collective still play good halves and good games every other week.. Rashford can't even make the team sheet in positions with zero competition. Rashford isn't just suffering a crisis of form he also looks like a massive misfit in a side trying to play organised football. He looks like he plain doesn't understand where the next pass goes in patterned football. I weep thinking of what is going to happen under ETH if he can't even figure out RR's simpler one touch football.
summed up nicely for me.
 
Well done Rashford for doing your job. Do you want a Capri Sun and a Little Debbie ?
 
Personally I don't think many people are saying he's slacking off in training but more because he's so low in confidence then he should be training night and day to get that confidence back. Of course everyone needs a break once in a while but you have to find that happy medium if you're 100% committed to being the best you can and a lot of people are questioning Rashfords commitment which I don't think is too outrageous.
Training night and day is ridiculous. No one does that. Would I hope he's doing extra sessions after training? Yes. Outside of that, I don't care. Any additional training outside of that is a net negative effect.
 
How do you know any player playing badly isn't doing that with 90% of their free time just because you see a picture of them at a public event?

Having said that I don't even see how that would actually help in every case.
Because it wouldn't. People just want to have the appearance of effort outside of on the pitch even if it doesn't actually help the player.
 
He can just leave already.

His attitude stinks and we don’t need players like him around.

Take a few others with you, on the way out!
 
-15 months out of form
-his PR team posting annoying shit to the media
-He's acting like he's doing nothing wrong when you can literally see during matches he's a lazy bum

Fergie wouldn't tolerate this shit

So you're not actually willing to share that list of stuff you'd find it acceptable for out of form players to do with their free time?

Don't blame you mate I wouldn't either.
 
I don't in fairness, and if that is the case it's a failure on the media department and not the players. If you're earning more than CEOs of FTSE 100 companies, it's a bad look when it's going horribly wrong and you're posting this kind of stuff on SM. If the head of P&O uploaded a pic of him chilling on a beach after the past week, he'd quite rightly get torn a new asshole... This isn't a football exclusive thing, it's fundamental corporate crisis management.

Yeah I can see what you're saying about footballers themselves posting stupid shit like that picture Lingard put up. But correct me if I'm wrong the picture that's got a few in here upset was of Rashford at a boxing match which as far as I'm aware someone else took and shared on social media.
 
So many stories and opinions from former players today on twitter.

Rashford taking a lot of flack right now.

Big test of character for him.
 
So many stories and opinions from former players today on twitter.

Rashford taking a lot of flack right now.

Big test of character for him.
Next some people here will call out those former players saying they "abuse" the Great Rashy
 
So many stories and opinions from former players today on twitter.

Rashford taking a lot of flack right now.

Big test of character for him.
If only he hasnt been using his PR team to his own advantage and at the expense of United I would feel sorry for him.
 
Rashford is clearly a confidence player, which he is clearly lacking right now.

He's one of these players who needs to be "loved" by they're manager. Ralf is an interim, he hasn't the time to play that role of micro managing player's ego's etc. If he was our manager on a 3yr contract, different scenario.

Ralf has come in, give the players instructions. They either perform and show willing or they dont. Simple approach for short term.

Rashford has always relied on his pace, and his raw ability. He's been around a while now, he's a very capable player but he has flaws. His decision making can be poor for example, his finishing wayward on times

I think we all need a bit of a reality check though - Rashford has immense ability and way more pro's than con's. He's a proper talent. He's struggled with his back and i'm hopeful he will play a big part in the next chapter. A confident, in form Rashford is a huge plus for us - one of the best players in the league.

His Social Media irks me, all this we must do better, work hard messages every single day. He's not the only UTD player, even the clubs socials are so generic and meaningless it's all a bit cringe. Call it the modern world if you like, but it means nothing. Only way anyone at the club impresses me as a fan is by showing it on the pitch with workrate and application. Pointless tweeting how hard your working if you continue to play like an amateur
 

Again. If he wants fans to leave him alone...all he has to do is stay off social media. Never mind his extra endeavours for now. If he wants to be left alone and for the intense criticism of his performances to subside he needs to vanish off the internet and not even speak until his performances improve.
 
He's basically an influencer/activist these days. Football is a part-time gig.
Don't forget to subscribe, like and share the announcement of my new children's book #[insert random hashtags here].
 
Can you share some examples?

Various comments today, from A number of people.

Paul Parker saying United would have to sell him very cheap because he has been so bad.

Former player on Talk Sport reckons he no longer has any interest in playing football anymore.

And many more.
 
Hot Take. Whilst mental health is obviously a major issue and a serious concern, sometimes general "life" can be conflated into mental health issues.

Everyone gets depressed now and then, and that should not be conflated with real depression (actually struggling, genuinely feeling suicidal etc.).

I do struggle to believe that Pogba, Rashford etc. suffer with genuine clinical depression and not just the usual travails that everyone has to deal with, this tends to hit sportspeople on retirement.
I’m not disagreeing. If you read my post I even mentioned that Pogba’s was probably mostly about United being rubbish and the burglary. Although with the latter we don’t know how that can effect even the most confident of people. I agree it is becoming a trend amongst younger people where “mental health” is just a loose term that’s thrown about to answer every issue.

BUT we don’t know if at least one player really does end up feeling suicidal because 1) that’s just the way they are wired and 2) it gets exasperated by the online abuse and scrutiny they face.

That’s my only point about accountability both for journalists and fans. These are real people who we don’t know. I say the same thing about “glorifying” footballers on a personal level also, I tell people you don’t what that guy is like as a person he could be an utter feck.
 


I posted about this last month. The worst part was the copy his team sent with the announcement:

Both releases will be significant publishing events. We will execute an extensive multi-channel marketing campaign supported by journalists from national print and broadcast media as well as leveraging the high engagement @MarcusRashford Twitter and Instagram accounts, which will allow us to reach across all consumer groups.

Macmillan Publishing will be gifting thousands of copies of each book to schools across the country; expertly weaving social justice with cross-market branding for increased media and consumer engagement

'Journalists from national print and broadcast media' aren't just giving out free promo, arranged in advance no less, without getting something in return.
 
This excuse that he is out of form should be put in the dustbin. He simply is arsed enough to even try for his team. That's the problem. Out of form means you try hard and do the simple things to get back into form. I have never heard of anyone being out of form and not making an attempt in any other club and still getting to play regularly. It only happens at United and never under SAF. Never. SAF would have already given him the hair dryer treatment both in private and public.
Does anyone still remember the one he gave to Johnny Evans? For only making a mistake.
 
I mean, publishing children's books while you're still supposed to be a dedicated professional footballer :lol:

It's almost like he's purposely wumming the fanbase.
 
I mean, publishing children's books while you're still supposed to be a dedicated professional footballer :lol:

It's almost like he's purposely wumming the fanbase.
He can do whatever he wants. Its just the timing of things that pisses me off.
 
This excuse that he is out of form should be put in the dustbin. He simply is arsed enough to even try for his team. That's the problem. Out of form means you try hard and do the simple things to get back into form. I have never heard of anyone being out of form and not making an attempt in any other club and still getting to play regularly. It only happens at United and never under SAF. Never. SAF would have already given him the hair dryer treatment both in private and public.
Does anyone still remember the one he gave to Johnny Evans? For only making a mistake.
Under SAF, he wouldn't have got the massive contract so early in his career.
 
I mean, publishing children's books while you're still supposed to be a dedicated professional footballer :lol:

It's almost like he's purposely wumming the fanbase.
How much time do you think he actually spent on it?

Professional athletes have plenty of spare time. Having constructive outside interests is better than just sitting around playing video games, or (like they did 20-30 years ago) going down the pub and getting smashed at least once a week.

The only issue is if the outside stuff starts taking too much attention and the football suffers. Which yes, may be a problem in Rashford's case. But writing some books in itself isn't an issue.
 
It's beyond depressing looking back on my conversations with friends about the young United and England front 3 of Greenwood, Sancho and Rashford.

I personally hope he stays and the new manager gets a shot to work him. I may be naïve, but I am not giving up yet.
 

Of course! A new type of book now!:lol:

I think at this stage we can say this has gone well beyond Marcus Rashford the individual. This is a group of vested interests a bit like a company, and they are chomping at the bit to milk Marcus for every penny they can possibly get for him. I bet they just look at him and see £££ signs. I feel sorry for him, but it's by the bye regarding Utd, it's meant to be a football club after all.

Think we should refer to him now on as Marcus Rashford Ltd
 
His name is more pronounced on the book than the actual titles, just pure spin from his PR team. Loads a money!!
 
It's beyond depressing looking back on my conversations with friends about the young United and England front 3 of Greenwood, Sancho and Rashford.

I personally hope he stays and the new manager gets a shot to work him. I may be naïve, but I am not giving up yet.

Well you still got Sancho.
 
For his own sake, he should join another club that can take him out of the limelight. That will probably force him to start being a footballer again.
 
For his own sake, he should join another club that can take him out of the limelight. That will probably force him to start being a footballer again.

Do you think that Marcus Rashford would be as popular as he is now if he plays for Everton instead of Manchester United?