Rashford considering his future...
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Ralf's on a mission to clean this place up for the next manager, If a player wants to go I don't think the club are going to be hanging onto them.
Its clear Ole stroked Rashords ego for far too long. He's a good player and nothing more, he wouldn't be a starting player for any top team i.e City, Pool so why does he think he should be one here?
If he wants to leave he knows where the door is.
If he wants to leave he knows where the door is.
Rangnick is the only post Fergie manager we have had who has looked to stand up for the club, look out for the club's interests and do right by it.
Good, we need to develop that Guardiola mentality. "You don't want to play here? There is the door."
We are going to have this issue with a few of our players, they're all average players but on stupid salaries thinking they're something special. No one in the league will offer them what we are giving them at the moment so abroad might be the only option for some of them.
So this lad who is supposed to be Manchester United through and through is threatening to leave because he isn’t being picked ? What about getting on the pitch and showing why you deserve to be there. Where’s your fight? Desire?
it’s just totally self entitled on his part to think he simply deserves to play, even though he has been abysmal for a while.
it’s just totally self entitled on his part to think he simply deserves to play, even though he has been abysmal for a while.
Minor point, but come on. Ronaldo is one of the biggest narcissists in the game. Granted he's had the career to back it up, but there's no need to exaggerate.
People seriously underestimate this motivation. You keep a few players around with the same couldn’t care less mindset and it rots everything around it. You need players who genuinely spark off each other. What I saw last season was Rashford walking around scowling and cursing at anyone who demanded more of him (fair enough if he was in pain it was our bad for having to play him) But to come back and look even lazier this season, less interested and demanding immediate clarification on his future and playing time is just absolutely tone deaf
Yep, Ole seemed to favour his ‘mates’ who pandered up to him ….Maguire and Lingard also spring to mind.
Ironically, the arse kissers are those mainly responsible to Ole’s downfall.
Fame and money do strange things to some people. I've always had a bad feeling about the clique that Rashford and Lingard had. The two of them are full of it and come across like men who think they're superstars. No surprise they've turned into entitled knobs who think they have a god given right to start for United.
Mourinho wanted to do the right things as well. His methods were not suitable but he wanted discipline at all costs and never wanted player power to go out of hand like it happened under Ole.
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Its true, he kept Rashord and Martials ego in check. He had the right idea when he rotated them as bench players.
Failure on Man Utd. What a boob this guy is.
I’m waiting on Rashford’s next essay on social media about how he’s never asked to leave the club etc etc. if he can’t get his act together he should leave. There’s no more Ole who’s going to stroke his ego. Ralf is instilling a meritocracy and I love it.
100% agree.
All we need now is the club to back Rangnicks mentality. Soon the players PR teams would realise they have little flex.
Yep. It's all predictable. If we lose to spurs, expect more stories coming out of his camp.
Agree specifically on point 1. As a club we have done very little to facilitate his development, similar to Martial & even our No.11 who most considered a very good talent was stagnating in his development. Rashford played with a shoulder injury that could have easily sidelined him last season so his commitment to club & country has been proven.
It’s startling how venomous people are for ‘one of our own’. If he goes they’ve failed in this case massively.
If he can't get his place back and continues to not look engaged then it will be a failure of Rashford's part but it will also 100% be a failure on the club's part if they cannot get him right again, albeit I generally like the approach that Rangnick has taken and happen to think that the 2 main managerial candidates would both be good for Rashford. There are not many academy products that will come through who will score 17 Premier League goals from the left wing in the year they turn 22.
The obsession with running the guy into the ground when he was injured, not having top level coaches in charge in key years during his development and not setting proper standards of players to keep their place earlier on his career are the club's fault and will have played a part if he doesn't turn it around, just as much as Rashford himself will be to blame.
Is that the fault of current department or the people that decided to play him anyway?
Also our no 11 got himself into his problem, it's self-made. And it's a personal problem that no one could have prevented unless if you want to have someone constantly monitoring him via surveillance camera. See also: Ravel Morrison when Fergie was managing the club.
Newcastle could be about to make their first Saudi era transfer mistake.
It's funny how he wrote "football department". Because talking about your own mates is prohibited in Gary's twitter-verse. If there are people who are most responsible for Rashford's current state (outside of himself), it's the previous manager, coaching staffs and medical staffs. They played him into the ground and the lack of interest started to appear there for whatever reason. Current situation is the aftermath.
Rashy apparently.Lingard maybe
I wish Ralph had more vocal support from the fans when it comes to stuff like this. It's exactly what is needed
If he is not happy not playing enough games, then all he has to do is prove his doubters wrong with a string of strong performances and show everyone his quality, not only on the ball, but off the ball too, he must show quality and hardwork.
Else, he can warm the bench and in the summer leave it he wants too..
No player should need help in getting motivated to be at the Manchester United, either they have the desire and commitment to be here and not take anything for granted and fight when when things aren't going well.
Else, he can warm the bench and in the summer leave it he wants too..
No player should need help in getting motivated to be at the Manchester United, either they have the desire and commitment to be here and not take anything for granted and fight when when things aren't going well.
If he wants to leave then please leave. Nobody is untouchable when they have not won a single trophy in 4 years.
He hasn’t been anywhere near good enough for over 12 months. I think it might be time to cash in.
This sort of Tweet really irks me because if we're being honest, Rashford and United need a clean break. Neville must know by now how disproportionately large his voice is and how loudly he's heard within the club, stuff like this doesn't help cause it just means it's more likely the board will try and desperately cling onto Rashford when it's clear his time here is done.
Hope he is sold to Newcastle for a tonne of money. The state of that guy is nothing short of abysmal.
We've seen 100s of player in the PL look promising at a young age but not go on to be anything special. What makes us think Rashford is any different.
He's just had the benefit of playing in really poor sides compared to our past otherwise he'd have barely got a game.
He's just had the benefit of playing in really poor sides compared to our past otherwise he'd have barely got a game.
The club aren't magicians. They have created an environment for Rashford to maximize his skillsets, tactically he gets away with not tracking back near as much or working nearly hard enough on the ball. And in spite of that he is still bang average for a prolonged period. He's had managers who have protected him very well from scrutiny too. If he still can't get it together then the club did their bit.
We've barely developed anyone once they've got to the first team in the last decade, United has become a club where talent comes to die. Solskjaer also repeatedly played him when he was clearly injured. Rashford has to take responsibility for not looking engaged and needs to be sharper and more energetic in everything he does and tidy up parts of his game but to act as if loads of other players have massively kicked on at United is nonsense, they don't need to be fecking magicians, they just all need to be better at every level within the club.
Couldn't care less what Rashford is considering, we should be shipping him off while we can get a decent fee for him. He's midtable fodder at best, not lived up to his early promise.
How have we notDear oh dear
He plays from wider areas, which is what he wants. A lot of his poor performances come from his most preferred position, he's gotten away with not needing to track back as much and he's still shite. He looks worse after he had his surgery too. He had managers protecting him well too.
We have not failed Rashford whastoever. Rashford is failing Rashford, and he needs to turn it around.
No one has said this. We're looking at the failure of Rashford here, and I don't think the club have failed him. His poor form is on him. When he was rightly benched he hasn't taken to it well and we're seeing leaks of him considering his future. I don't like the entitlement there, he should take this as a sign to work harder rather than complain about lack of playing time.
Have no emotional connection with Rashford, never have to be honest. If he stays he’s a good bench option for me, if he goes so be it. He is certainly not the talent people make him out to be. He’s a good player on form with pace his biggest asset but nowhere near a top class player.
I’m not singling him out either as I feel the same about most of the squad.
I’m not singling him out either as I feel the same about most of the squad.
Stats need to be laid out in their entirety for critical analysis.
Where is the running stats? Pass completion? Ground covered ? Loss of the ball? Break down attacks?
Fact is Rashford hasnt been playing well for a very long time and using goal and assist stats to argue he is somehow contributing enough is no good.
When you consider the average season is 50+ games his return is below average, especially when you consider multiple goals in games. Its padding the outlook somewhat.
Comparison to other players is political deflection, Son doesnt play for United so his stats dont matter when all we care about is what Rashford is doing. Matters not a jot that Son or whoever is or isnt doing what ever.
How have we not
He plays from wider areas, which is what he wants. A lot of his poor performances come from his most preferred position, he's gotten away with not needing to track back as much and he's still shite. He looks worse after he had his surgery too. He had managers protecting him well too.
We have not failed Rashford whastoever. Rashford is failing Rashford, and he needs to turn it around.
Well first you are talking of an environment.
Rashford's coaching has come from Mourinho Ole and Rangnick - 2 who are below average coaches from their CV.
Then, Rashford has played through injury for nearly a full season. Again not the best of environment.
Then there is an bad egotistical raising that happens at United - from Greenwood saying poor things to his partner to Rashford becoming big headed too; things like work rate of Wan Bissaka is seen by this potential egotistical raising too.
Then this season - the whole club has been crying for a RW and the whole fan base cries for who? Sancho.
All well and good.. but what happens? We go from arguably planning to play
Rashford- Greenwood- Sancho
As our main tactic, to signing a legendary 37 year old which puts Greenwood back at RW and then Sancho moving to LW.
Then Greenwood goes and then Rashford comes back as a RW because now a 80 million player like sancho isn't being played in the position he bought for.
Rashford is shit and oTT but I am mot believing like this United was a good environment for anyone -
As others have said, not a single player has improved here post SAF, the closest is arguably Fred and Lindelof which says a lot. Then you have players like di Maria moving due to this club and its environment too.