Rashford considering his future...

Just take that few million we get for him. Been average for years, Just sick of deadwood. Keep Sancho, Bruno, varane and de gea and sell the rest mediocre players. Even youth would do a better job than these spineless players who gave up on Derby.
 
Ole coddled him too much. Made him feel more special than he actually is.
 
Ole coddled him too much. Made him feel more special than he actually is.
100% this. He went from a humble youngster into billy big bollox because Ole the "great man manager" keep giving in what he wanted and pander him too much. He could play like shit all the time and Ole still started him. Mental revolution my arse. This is like a kid in the class who is given free reign to do whatever he pleases by a teacher. When the new strict teacher comes he throws his toys out of the pram and sulk like a bitch
 
The damage he did to the club is showing.

So much for a "great" man manager. Let's just not sugarcoat it. He is shite in all aspect as a manager. His post reign damage is even worse than Mou for me. I will eat my shoe if any club in top 5 league take him as manager.
 
So much for a "great" man manager. Let's just not sugarcoat it. He is shite in all aspect as a manager. His post reign damage is even worse than Mou for me. I will eat my shoe if any club in top 5 league take him as manager.
Try telling that to his fanboys who believes that Ole can do no wrong and we're worse off with Rangnick.

Ole basically killed off any discipline in the dressing room and I've said it plenty of times that he's a terrible manager just from the fact that none of our players have improved under him. We practically wrote off loads of youngsters under him because they've stagnanted for a few years and just aren't the required quality needed if we want to be a top club again.

One of the worst ever decision made by the club was to hire him full time.
 
People seem to be forgetting how good he was last season. This one isn’t even over yet, plenty of top players have had a bad season, especially coming back from injury. Back injuries are especially touchy.
 
Seems like PSG want to get rid of Neymar, and with Mbappe departing for Madrid, they will need a replacement. This is the perfect opportunity to move Rashford and get a decent sum out of it. Enough to finance Raphinha, Antony or Diaby.
 
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Try telling that to his fanboys who believes that Ole can do no wrong and we're worse off with Rangnick.

Ole basically killed off any discipline in the dressing room and I've said it plenty of times that he's a terrible manager just from the fact that none of our players have improved under him. We practically wrote off loads of youngsters under him because they've stagnanted for a few years and just aren't the required quality needed if we want to be a top club again.

One of the worst ever decision made by the club was to hire him full time.
But but the players let Ole down and Ronaldo cause the decline of our treble winning squad under him :lol: :wenger:
 
Try telling that to his fanboys who believes that Ole can do no wrong and we're worse off with Rangnick.

Ole basically killed off any discipline in the dressing room and I've said it plenty of times that he's a terrible manager just from the fact that none of our players have improved under him. We practically wrote off loads of youngsters under him because they've stagnanted for a few years and just aren't the required quality needed if we want to be a top club again.

One of the worst ever decision made by the club was to hire him full time.
Rashford doubled his output under Ole. He went from 9-10 goals a season to 20 for two seasons in a row. Ole did well to get that sort of output from him.

Ole is now gone. If Rashford can't be bothered to put effort now you can't blame Ole for that. FFS the club backed Rashford when Ole told him to concentrate on his football. Ole was forced to backtrack on his comments.
 
So much for a "great" man manager. Let's just not sugarcoat it. He is shite in all aspect as a manager. His post reign damage is even worse than Mou for me. I will eat my shoe if any club in top 5 league take him as manager.
No big club wanted Avram Grant after the 2008 season. Took the title race to the last day and lost the CL on pens.

Good players still battle on and do their thing regardless of the manager. They dont fold like we did v Liverpool, city twice or away at Watford. The lack of spine shown in those games really highlights how many frauds are in our squad. Ole isn't a top tier manager but these players aren't even close to it either.
 
Rashford doubled his output under Ole. He went from 9-10 goals a season to 20 for two seasons in a row. Ole did well to get that sort of output from him.

Ole is now gone. If Rashford can't be bothered to put effort now you can't blame Ole for that. FFS the club backed Rashford when Ole told him to concentrate on his football. Ole was forced to backtrack on his comments.
He also went from a hardworking player who could contribute even without goals to one whose only trick is to run straight into defenders and lose the ball.

Should have been dropped for his shit performances last year but Ole continuously played him despite the injury and performance. It's little wonder he thinks he deserves a starting role no matter how he performs.
 
Ragnick said back time that Rashford was one of the best striker in premier league. And when Uniteds center forward were out of injury Cavani and Ronaldo. Ragnick play Pobga as a false 9 and CF. Ahead of a natural CF in Rashford. It will help on the players confidence and as a manager you actually is playing with peoples mind. If the manager doesnt get a explanation.

Same with Pep doing with City. Playing all not natural CF and attacking players ahead of a natural CF in Gabriel Jesus. All decend CF in football will score a lot of goals playing for City. With the consistent service from really really good attacking players in Bruyne, Mahrez, Foden, Gundogan and Silva. Pep just want to be smart and playing smart. The truth are the consistent top service City attacking players. Players like mentioned dont need to coach to playing well attacking football. They are top level on creative and skill ful with the ball. So no matter what Pep is trying to do with City. Lucky him he has work with top world class players in Messi and Barca, Bayern and City. Pep would be in trouble if he manage current Everton or Southampton squad.

Again. If a manager pick a midfield player ahead of a natural CF. If you dont explain and have a good argument for it. Then you are playing with peoples and players confidence and mind. If no CF are available. Its understandable to play a creative midfield player upfront. But Pobga doesnt have the top speed and acceleration to play a CF special set up for counter attack.

And the problem with United struggling to score not only they were not clinical. But the biggest reason is the manager keep playing McFred. Even against second bottom of the table in Watford. At home. Are you so that safe. That against Watford. You dont have guts to start with a lot more attacking midfield or XI?Shall not United as team go out and dominate Watford?Starting with two ballwinner CM against Watford. It just show me how much guts and risk you will take as person and manager.

So in the end. Ragnick same as Ole has play big part on Rashford poor form. Include a not good team and CM duo to achieve top 4. All units are related to each others. Each Units are no isolate from others units. Many times it start with the manager team selection and tactic. Which energy, guts and mind he is go into the game and spread to his players.
You'd be an excellent spokesperson if you aren't already. Ridiculous reading :lol:
 
He also went from a hardworking player who could contribute even without goals to one whose only trick is to run straight into defenders and lose the ball.

Should have been dropped for his shit performances last year but Ole continuously played him despite the injury and performance. It's little wonder he thinks he deserves a starting role no matter how he performs.
Exactly, my Rashy shall always play
 
Rashford doubled his output under Ole. He went from 9-10 goals a season to 20 for two seasons in a row. Ole did well to get that sort of output from him.

Ole is now gone. If Rashford can't be bothered to put effort now you can't blame Ole for that. FFS the club backed Rashford when Ole told him to concentrate on his football. Ole was forced to backtrack on his comments.

Never let facts get in the way of a rant.
 
Seems like PSG want to get rid of Neymar, and with Mbappe departing for Madrid, they will need a replacement. This is the perfect opportunity to move Rashford and get a decent sum out of it. Enough to finance Raphinha, Antony or Diaby.

Pretty sure PSG would sooner take one or two of those three players than Rashford. I know they signed Choupo-Moting but they aren't going to pay big money for Rashford and I don't really see who would. He's always linked with Barca over the years but they're skint.
 
Try telling that to his fanboys who believes that Ole can do no wrong and we're worse off with Rangnick.

Ole basically killed off any discipline in the dressing room and I've said it plenty of times that he's a terrible manager just from the fact that none of our players have improved under him. We practically wrote off loads of youngsters under him because they've stagnanted for a few years and just aren't the required quality needed if we want to be a top club again.

One of the worst ever decision made by the club was to hire him full time.

While the Ole reign isn't looking too great right now, what have you seen from Ralf that makes you think it's been an improvement so far?
We've taken a similar battering to early season, fused with struggling to beat MBoro, Burnley, Watford etc.

What players have improved under him? Sancho maybe?
 
100% this. He went from a humble youngster into billy big bollox because Ole the "great man manager" keep giving in what he wanted and pander him too much. He could play like shit all the time and Ole still started him. Mental revolution my arse. This is like a kid in the class who is given free reign to do whatever he pleases by a teacher. When the new strict teacher comes he throws his toys out of the pram and sulk like a bitch


absolutely spot on !
 
100% this. He went from a humble youngster into billy big bollox because Ole the "great man manager" keep giving in what he wanted and pander him too much. He could play like shit all the time and Ole still started him. Mental revolution my arse. This is like a kid in the class who is given free reign to do whatever he pleases by a teacher. When the new strict teacher comes he throws his toys out of the pram and sulk like a bitch
If he is that sort of character he is never going to become a top player.
 
While the Ole reign isn't looking too great right now, what have you seen from Ralf that makes you think it's been an improvement so far?
We've taken a similar battering to early season, fused with struggling to beat MBoro, Burnley, Watford etc.

What players have improved under him? Sancho maybe?
The actual football has been decent in patches which is more than can be said under Ole and we actually look like we have a game plan when the players are fit to play how Rangnick wants.

The key right now is to get rid of all the prats who think they're above the club and reset the club culture back into one that's filled with hungry players who actually want to win.
 
You can't blame everything on RR when the players aren't arsed about making an effort.
He has been handicapped from the start because a few players have made up their minds to get away from United because of the way they were treated under Ole. Then we had the Greenwood disaster. RR doesn't have much options with his players.
 
The death of humble Rashy

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The birth of self-entitled Rashy

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Just take that few million we get for him. Been average for years, Just sick of deadwood. Keep Sancho, Bruno, varane and de gea and sell the rest mediocre players. Even youth would do a better job than these spineless players who gave up on Derby.

Why do you think we will only get a few million for him and what do you class as a few million?

This is something that I do wonder. We undesell our players and struggle to sell some due to there contracts, but seen many a time "we wont get a fee for Pereira/Lingard" etc etc as so they are worthless.

Then underperforming playres liek Rashford and Maguire. This is a league that pays over £30m for Michael Keane, over £20m for Callum WIlson approaching 29. Not slating those players but some of our players are a much bigger profile, much more the right age and are England internationals. YOu cant buy average English footballers often now of the right age for under £25m being conservative.

There are lots of current players of ours I would actually be happy to see leave the club and Rashford is one of them. But thats still with the right investment from selling them. I dont mean every player needs replacing as we have a bloated squad, I dont mean we should sell Rashford for say £60m and spend that £60m.

But we should be using the money wisely in net spends and come on, as poor as they have been there is no way we shouldnt be getting upwards of £85-90m in total for Rashford and Maguire if we were selling them.
 
Is he really wearing a necklace with his nickname on it ? Who the feck does such thing ?

Rappers mostly, although I think they prefer name rings and the chains just have some big pendant on them usually. But it's an important piece of rap culture to have that big chain.
 
Doing really well in training....he just has to bring that form to Matchday
Can’t wait!
 
So much for a "great" man manager. Let's just not sugarcoat it. He is shite in all aspect as a manager. His post reign damage is even worse than Mou for me. I will eat my shoe if any club in top 5 league take him as manager.
It is starting to look that way, sadly.

-Maguire and AWB in question.
-Rashford development.
-Even to some degree the lack of discipline shown by Greenwood recently.

It looks like he recruited badly, coached badly and was too soft on the players with a lack of discipline.

I'd like to see Rashford up front as striker, see if he can regain some form. Last chance saloon!
 
Then underperforming playres liek Rashford and Maguire. This is a league that pays over £30m for Michael Keane, over £20m for Callum WIlson approaching 29. Not slating those players but some of our players are a much bigger profile, much more the right age and are England internationals. YOu cant buy average English footballers often now of the right age for under £25m being conservative.
I got your point. English players are expensive. The problem is in this market you can get more value for your money recruiting foreign players like Guimaraes and Odegaard for £30m.
 
People seem to be forgetting how good he was last season. This one isn’t even over yet, plenty of top players have had a bad season, especially coming back from injury. Back injuries are especially touchy.
He was poor last season do you mean when he scored 17 goals 2 or 3 seasons ago?
 
People seem to be forgetting how good he was last season. This one isn’t even over yet, plenty of top players have had a bad season, especially coming back from injury. Back injuries are especially touchy.
I think you forgot that he was poor last season.