I don’t get this “Rashford plays well in patches” stuff we hear.
No he doesn’t. He plays well in minutes, if that.
All I see from Rashford is 90mins of sh**e every week with one or two isolated moments of skill or a decent shot or something. His all round game is painful to watch.
As soon as he is stopped, turned or has his back to goal, he’s a terrible liability
| Rashford | Martial | |
| Goals | 7 | 2 |
| Minutes per goal | 233 | 576 |
| Shot accuracy % | 64.7 | 61.5 |
| Assists | 5 | 3 |
| Chances created | 8 | 10 |
| Key passes per game | 1 | 0.8 |
I'm at the point where I don't see the point of Martial. His best position is on the wing, which is also Rashford's position, and I think the latter is more worthy.
But I think we're stuck with Martial, monster contract recently given to him, and the footballing world is in a sticky spot with Covid.
That is my problem with them. Neither work hard enough either up front or tracking back. You look at the work Kane and Son put in other areas of the pitch, because they have a manager who won't have anything else. Ole has to lay it on the line. All players have to put 100% in every game. If they had lost last night but had worked their socks off, you could say they were unlucky.Someone please explain to me how these two are consistently allowed to put in no effort whatsoever? It didn't just happen last night, it's been like this all season.
Is this why Jose couldn't stand the pair? When they actually run and put in effort, we've seen they can be lethal, but they just don't and Ole has done nothing to address it despite it staring everyone in the face plain to see.
Who tf does Rashford think he is? Got a few plaudits for getting political and now thinks he's too big to run?
Last night was an easy game, lost because too many of our players felt above the need to run. We were sick of Pogba doing it, now that he's finally kicked into some gear, these two have started walking around the pitch looking moody.
0 effort is unacceptable and Ole has done nothing to address it.
Been saying for ages that we do not have enough players who either break their necks to get into the box or are willing to or are able to pick up the scraps in the box. Love Cavani's attitude. The other two want to score Goal of the Month all the time. When a goal going in off your backside is just as important.Forgetting their deficiencies in defence and running etc lets also look at their attacking attributes which is there main role.
Towards the end of the game Pogba put in cross which flashed past the six yard box, with Cavani breaking his neck to get across the front post and as the camera panned out, where were are two other strikers who want to be numbers 9's, practically holding hands watching on from the 18 yard line of the box
You could see from Cavani's reaction he was not impressed
This happens way too often for either of them to be considered as a contender for a starting number 9 position
Cavani at 34 seems far more hungry for success than Martial at 24. He just runs more, tracks back, seems more involved in everything.
Sad thing is that Greenwood seems to resemble more and more with "Anto" unfortunately.
We can only cater for one of these 2 on the pitch at the same time. Not both.
Whoever is in form and working harder gets the nod.
It’s unfair to group Rashford with Martial. Martial has been truly awful this season and should be sold, while Rashford is just in a bad run of form.
Rashford Martial Goals 7 2 Minutes per goal 233 576 Shot accuracy % 64.7 61.5 Assists 5 3 Chances created 8 10
Key passes per game 1 0.8
Rashford did not look fit last night. Stupid fecking decision to play him.
I’d be playing Lingard over Martial at the moment. At least he would run and track back.
For years ? Who were you ?Neither Martial or Rashford are good enough to lead the line - not if we want success. I've saying it on here for years. Both players are seriously overrated.
Same here. I love Rashford but I will freely admit that his performance was indefensible last night. However, no one can argue that Martial’s streaks of bad form lasts longer, his attitude has stank since bitching about losing the #9 (can’t deny I’ve never really warmed to him alone since) and his lowest level is Championship standard considering he’s been the worst starting striker in the league this season bar none.I do agree with you. I think it's just games like last night where two of your attacking players offer feck all all game, you tend to group them. I'd personally keep Rashford and give up on Martial.
Obviously kills me to blow smoke up an Arsenal player’s arse but when you watch Saka get the ball you just know he’ll do something positive and effective, 6 or 7 times out of 10. When you watch a top class striker in his prime like Harry Kane you can up that to 8 or 9 times out of 10.
With Rashford that drops to 4 or 5 times out of 10. Now those 4 or 5 times can be very impressive but the other 5 or 6 times are often painfully sloppy.
I don’t even want to think what sort of numbers Martial is putting up.
Greenwood has a long way to go but at least he takes care of the football. It’s bonkers how often the other two kill off our attacks.
At this point I'd honestly take a chance with Diallo on the right, shove Rashford to the left and keep Cavani as our main talisman. If Diallo isn't anywhere near ready then I'd honestly take Dan James there until we sign someone or Diallo's ready to make the step up. At least James works hard, tracks back and has pace, even if he his an average footballer.
So very true. I think its actually less than 4 out of 10 for Rashford. 1 or 2 maybe. He is shocking most of the time. Remember the stick Nani used to get for very occasionally losing the ball? Neither of these guys are fit to lace Nanis boots.
Thought experiment for a second.
Imagine you saw Rashford playing for Villa or Brighton or Everton...would his general performance level have you suggesting that this was a Man Utd standard player? I’d say absolutely not. There’s the odd moment of magic. There’s the direct running and good feet which can be effective on the counter. However, overall, his ability to influence games in tight areas or with his back to goal is non-existent
I don’t even want to talk about Martial. Such a disappointment. I was at that game vs Liverpool when he scored on his debut and he hasn’t progressed one bit. He was world class at 18 (for his age) and is now a mediocre 25 year old with a terrible attitude and no fire in his belly. I knew his game was over after three minutes when he took that kick. Towel in.
Dunno how old you are but Nani had slumps in form much longer and deeper than anything we’ve seen from Rashford this season or last. At his peak (when he was nearly 3 years older than Rashford is now) he had an excellent season or two before losing it again, for no obvious reason. I would be very surprised if Rashford doesn’t go on to have a better career at United.
If we had competition both should be dropped. Neither are good enough to be guaranteed starters.
Rashford has not played consistantly well since his back injury, he looked a top player back then, but for whatever reason he's not been the same. To me he needs a complete break for a few weeks, he looks jaded.
Martial I've always felt, would get back to his best after a slow start to this season, but we're still waiting for this to happen. If he doesn't, then we need to sell in the summer and but for now we need both to play some matches, and hopefully Diallo can get some minutes before the end of season, and possibly Elanga as well. Cavani and Greenwood should play most matches, with James and Mata fitting in now and again.
Rashford offers much more than martial.
I'd even be happy with ole leading the line instead of martial.
