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Raphael Varane | Signed for United!
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Well Bailly is extremely erratic in everything he does. So no, not at all.
Yeah... let's wait and see. When we signed Pogba, Ibrahimovic and Mkhitaryan in the summer of 2016, we all thought we had a very good team on our hands. Then we finished 6th.
Aye, to call it a “step down” doesn’t even begin to tell the full story, in fact, I’d imagine a team with Varane and Sancho would be favourites against the current Real Madrid squad.
Knew there was a reason for keeping Bailly around.
We signed them after finishing 5th though.
We’re doing this business with an already much better squad after finishing 2nd.
Why do you people talk as if it’s your money? You moan about the glazers for being stingy, then when they drop £50m on a defender it’s all “oh that’s a bit much” sounds like you’re just looking to moan regardless.
Just need to keep boosting the midfield options and find that long term focal point up front and we are looking as good as anybody else out there
Finally!
The recruitment since Ole came in has been superb
Can’t make everyone happy I’m afraid.
Chelsea has entered the chat, that's what MEN is reporting
Still need that specialized CDM if really want to challenge next year in my opinion.
We now likely have 3 world class defenders in our back 4
For me and you it’s a much inferior league, but I’m not sure all players see it that way, Spanish league has a lot of prestige and recent huge history. I still stand that from a sporting point of view to constantly challenge for La Liga and occasionally win it is better than top4, never a chance to win Premier League finishes. Talking about the last few years here - not the future.
I’m not sure we are stronger but it is indeed a very very strong side we’ve put together.
I hope Ole gets the credit he deserves for this rebuild and for making us competitive again, it’s been a major reason why I’ve backed him throughout. I appreciate its not entirely his doing but he’s overseen it and has been the mainstay from the start.
They can see it how they like, but right now, it’s clearly the inferior league. This isn’t about a perception, it’s about the fact that the PL right now is the strongest league in Europe by a fair distance.
It’d be as silly as arguing the opposite around 2016.
And they're not the actual source. That Madrid fan twitter account saying ABC have said it is the source. I can put [BBC] on this fecking post. It doesn't mean Phil McNulty is responsible for the contents. Why is this so hard for people?
The link below is the latest on their site regarding Varane. Nothing about a bid being accepted.
https://www.abc.es/deportes/real-madrid/abci-varane-salida-ciernes-202107171220_noticia.html
but the tweet had red flashing lights an all
anyways knowing us we'd bid 40M euros, with extra 10m euros in bonuses. That's how we role.but the tweet had red flashing lights an all
Payable over 25 years.
€58mil euro which is £49mil pound. Good deal.58m for a player with 1 year left on his contract at a broke club
I really struggle to believe this.
Yepp, and a ballon d'or bonus clause that will get rejected first until we come to realistic bonuses. Standard
I'm not as sold an Varane as others but when will this myth that Bailly is brilliant 'when fit' ever end?
How fast can Varane run? I mean, he will be able to cover for Maguire?
He’s plenty faster than Lindelöf who himself rarely has to cover for Maguire, the myth that Maguire needs some speed demon next to him needs to die.
Oh for sure. Maguire is almost never beaten at pace beacue he's a damn good defender, not because he's fast. But this would also allow us to play higher line like we did with Bailly a few times, so it does change a lot.
Absolutely. You’d have 3 players in the back line that could be labelled “quick”.
Regardless of the ins and outs of all that it's much preferable to have one CBs with pace than two slow ones.
100%
"Ah feck, my luck's finally run out"
Worse still, it turns out they didn't even report it in the first place
Lots of links and people saying its done on here but all I can find is people saying he's still undecided if he's going to move.
Sorry who's paying £80m for a 30 year old CB on massive wages who's not even top 10 in the world? Well, I suppose it's possible he will be in 2 years if all the actual world class CBs like Chiellini, Godin, Ramos and Thiago Silva retire perhaps, but even still. We paid that money for a 25 year old who's a better player and came with English tax and everyone said we overpaid.
I never believe those tier 4 or below. Tier 4 normally just allow themselves to be quoted to attract attention/views. Tier 3 is the best possible I can have faith in and even those Tier 3 I only going for the selective ones that have been reliable lately.
That's a weird argument unless your club has unlimited funds — as every transfer fee influences
1. the amount that the club can spend on other transfers
2. the inflation or deflation of the future transfer fees — for example, we've overpaid for years after paying over the top for Fellaini/Mata/AWB/Maguire (on a separate note, paying over the top doesn't equal a bad transfer if anyone's going to be triggered at Maguire)
I mean, even you have to know the situations aren't even remotely comparable. Varane and Sancho are coming into a nearly completed squad who've had a clear and obvious progression every season for the last few years.
Maguire doesn't get beaten by pace because our overly negative system with 2 holding midfielders and a deep-ish defensive line (not quite coincidently, England played the same way) protects him from that most of the time. He is a good defender, but him struggling against pace is not a myth and we've seen that multiple times when Ole tried to experiment. Signing Varane (and, ideally, a great defensive midfielder) should massively help us with that.
Well that was due to team morale more than anything. This is a very different side in terms of spirit, not having a civil war.
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