Raphael Varane | Signed for United!

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Why was the pressure off at West Ham?

Because he'd been terrible at United for so long, there were no fans, they're mid table. There were basically zero expectations on him and because it's West Ham and not United teams are more likely to have a go so there's more space to play in.

He thrived, fair play to him but there's no reason at all to believe he'd be able to replicate that form again.
 
Because he'd been terrible at United for so long, there were no fans, they're mid table. There were basically zero expectations on him and because it's West Ham and not United teams are more likely to have a go so there's more space to play in.

He thrived, fair play to him but there's no reason at all to believe he'd be able to replicate that form again.

He would be no where near our squad again. Onwards and upwards for both parties
 


I don't blame him for feeling that way when they have a still unproven 20 year old on higher wages than him and were willing to conpeltely blow up their wage structure for Alaba who's older :lol:

They need him more than he needs them right now and if they don't value him that way then I'd leave as well. A club legend like Ramos did the same even as the longtime club captain and Mr Madrid himself Ronaldo did the same coming off a 3rd straight CL title as soon as he felt disrespected by them
 


I don't blame him for feeling that way when they have a still unproven 20 year old on higher wages than him and were willing to conpeltely blow up their wage structure for Alaba who's older :lol:

They need him more than he needs them right now and if they don't value him that way then I'd leave as well. A club legend like Ramos did the same even as the longtime club captain and Ronaldo did the same coming off a 3rd straight CL title when he felt disrespected by them


and this is exactly what has worried us all, just a play to get more money
 
and this is exactly what has worried us all, just a play to get more money
It's not out of the blue though like Ramos was, he's already had thoughts of leaving in recent years and we've been following and had interest in him for a decade running now. That longstanding has led us to be top of the queue now that it looks like he might finally leave.

If that nets us a CB of his caliber and profile to pair with Maguire then so be it.

I highly doubt PSG are crying any tears over strengthening their squad by signing Ramos :lol:
 
It's not out of the blue though like Ramos was, he's already had thoughts of leaving in recent years and we've been following and had interest in him for a decade running now. That longstanding has led us to be top of the queue now that it looks like he might finally leave.

If that nets us a CB of his caliber and profile to pair with Maguire then so be it.

I highly doubt PSG are crying any tears over strengthening their squad by signing Ramos :lol:

My concerns aren't necessarily that he's coming for the money but more that we're in for a long drawn out saga that ends in him signing a new contract at Madrid while we're left with another season of Lindelof
 
Been blindingly obvious all along that he's simply trying to get a better contract offer at Madrid.
Sounds to me like the Madrid media have started to paint him out to be a mercenary because it’s a bit embarrassing having one of their players wanting to leave them for United for reasons other than money.
 
Sounds to me like the Madrid media have started to paint him out to be a mercenary because it’s a bit embarrassing having one of their players wanting to leave them for United for reasons other than money.

that's definitely the glass half full point of view:devil:
 
The most important thing to judge here is not money but actually player's focus and professionalism in football. Have we heard anything bad about his professionalism and lack of focus? Him wanting more money really makes no difference if he still shows his full 100% dedication to football. No brand, no music video, just a simple man who wants to have amazing career in his football career.
 
Sounds to me like the Madrid media have started to paint him out to be a mercenary because it’s a bit embarrassing having one of their players wanting to leave them for United for reasons other than money.
Also another way of keeping the spotlight and discussion away from them offering Alaba insane wages that no one else in Europe would've offered him to play in a position that he hates to play in :lol:

All of this is a result of Madrid's own doing and no one else, losing the likes of Ramos and potentially Varane is a direct consequence of their own decision making and short term thinking
 
My concerns aren't necessarily that he's coming for the money but more that we're in for a long drawn out saga that ends in him signing a new contract at Madrid while we're left with another season of Lindelof

There was a tweet earlier that we have a contingency plan in place should the Varane move not work out. We're not following the Woodward protocol anymore.
 
Sounds to me like the Madrid media have started to paint him out to be a mercenary because it’s a bit embarrassing having one of their players wanting to leave them for United for reasons other than money.
When anyone wants to sign for them it's because of the history, 'eritage, ambition etc. When they want to leave it's because they're mercenaries
 
I think he'll stay, he'll come back of his holiday to a new bumper new contract and that'll be that. We'll then be linked with him every summer until he moves elsewhere.
I hope I am wrong though.
 
When anyone wants to sign for them it's because of the history, 'eritage, ambition etc. When they want to leave it's because they're mercenaries
Surely Real and Barca's wage bill should be tiny if it such an privilege to play for them, rather than wildly out of control.
 
Surely Real and Barca's wage bill should be tiny if it such an privilege to play for them, rather than wildly out of control.

Real's wage bill isn't out of control and not comparable to Barcelona. And not their wage bill shouldn't be tiny because one of the appeal is to play with other top players, who are not cheap themselves. Real Madrid and Barcelona are the top two clubs in terms of revenue, so they can afford large wage bills, they can't afford Barcelona's board level of incompetence though.
 
Of the available cb's he is the only one i want but if he is undecided then it's time to look at other targets.
 
Real's wage bill isn't out of control and not comparable to Barcelona. And not their wage bill shouldn't be tiny because one of the appeal is to play with other top players, who are not cheap themselves. Real Madrid and Barcelona are the top two clubs in terms of revenue, so they can afford large wage bills, they can't afford Barcelona's board level of incompetence though.
It was tonged in cheek comment, I know they shouldn't have a tiny wage bill, players are portrayed as mercenaries because they want high wages to join us but not them. I agree Barca are by far in a worse position, Real are also trying to cut cost asking players to take wage cuts to afford a new toy.
 
Set a deadline for varane and then move on either way. Dont mess about all summer and then get shafted at the end of it.
 
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