Except Ramos called Madrid bluff and got what he wanted. If Varane is doing that he's seen that Madrid aren't moving on their offer so he has a decision to make.
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In all seriousness if we manage to get Varane with DVB going the other way I’d be ecstatic, he’s a good player but DVB will never fit into a system we play under Ole and if we’re going to re-sign Pogba then DVB is basically about as useful as Mata.
This guy doesn't even know what day it is, I would not believe a word he says on that shite tv station anymore.
Yep, it has a. ‘Ramos’ feel to it all. ‘I am definitely leaving Real Madrid (unless they give me a five year contract in obscene money). This will drag on like the Sancho thing. Don’t expect him to line up with Maguire anytime soon. Hope I am wrong, but it doesn’t feel genuine.
Don't worry bud, I don't!
I'd much rather be hearing good things though, even from a shit source
Luckily I have full faith in our negotiating team's reluctance to get scammed anymore.
I personally cannot see DVB progressing here under Solskjaer's management. Like Lingard he needs movement around him to excel, he will look better in a possession orientated team.
I've always felt the trio of talent from Ajax (De Jong + De Ligt) that DVB would be the one who could only excel under certain conditions. He's more limited.
The club need a proper number 6 or 8 as an option in the midfield along the lines of a Tielemans
Yep, we dont know if Varane is playing United or not, he could be trying to get Madrid to up their offer and then stay.
Bargaining. Two more to go for either parties.
I might believe a word of this if he worked harder to make himself available for a pass rather than hiding. Mata has come into the team on numerous occasions and linked up to play exactly the sort of football VdB allegedly wants to play. It’s too easy to pretend he’s failing because the team isn’t set up for him.
There is no world where Donny hides from a pass. He shows up in space or makes runs all the time and no one finds him. It’s like he must be wearing a cloak of invisibility. There was a reason the midfield actually looked decent for once against Wolves and that was the passing and movement of DVB and Mata. Willing to give each other the ball and move in to space to recieve it.
Sorry but really struggling to see Donny through your eyes as someone who hides from a pass Or someone who doesn’t work hard to get in to pockets of space.
Thinking back to the pool game where the CAF blasted him for his performance but anyone who cared to watch him saw he took up brilliant positions, constantly switched held positions when needed and actually helped us but for some reason the CAF spotted none of these things. He’ll probably end up as the next Shaw or Fred I guess. Someone it will take the CAF a while to catch up to the things these people do on the pitch.
I, and many others on here, have been watching a completely different player this last year then.
Many have said the same thing about Carrick, Shaw, Fred and the likes so eventually I’m sure these people will see what he does and brings to the team.
He hasn't got the skill set though.
You don't need to be a playmaker to play just off the striker. Different coaches have differing definitions on what they expect in such a role. Ancelotti will likely make good use of him.
Donny will never make it here and probably won’t succeed at a club United’s level. You can quote me.
You said he could be a playmaker behind the real madrid forwards, that's the post I was responding to. Now you are switching up your argument and saying it doesn't matter that he's not a playmaker because he doesn't have to play as one. Make your mind up which argument you want to go with.
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I’m not that sad to go searching back months or years for a post just so I can say I told you so
I just hope you’re wrong and I think you will be but it’s up to Ole to give him the chances, Donny to take advantage of those and hopefully large Improvements from Bruno Rashford and the likes.Been busy today. Has his new contract been announced yet?
Wolf tickets this.
Wolf tickets this.
There’s a thread you can quote me inI’m not that sad to go searching back months or years for a post just so I can say I told you so
I remember a game late last season where Ole was resting players to focus on EL (Wolves?) and he was awful. Little movement, didn't shout "give me the ball" and defensively, seemed to be marking space rather than a player.
Sure he's a nice guy and get that it's probably been tough for him but I was expecting him to run his socks off offensively and defensively to say to Ole/the fans "give me a chance, I'll take it".
He didn't.
Not to take it off topic here but I've also noticed DvB hiding. He 'shows' halfheartedly and often seems to put oppo players in between him and the passer while still looking as though he's trying to make an angle to receive a pass. Whenever he does receive the ball he just seems to pop it off to the nearest player. Takes no responsibility and does nothing to drive the side forward. I thought he'd be really good for us but he's absolutely a busted flush.
Agree, Beek was a coward last season.
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He could be the playmaker, because making plays isn't just about passing the ball long. Madrid have Kroos and Modric who will provide the craft and guile from midfield. VdB in tandem with the aforementioned players will provide the movement, ball retention and one touch passing ability which could work very well for them.
Not really sure why anybody would refuse to include Donny in a swap for Varane. He's not taken any of the chances he's been given, they've been few and far between but he's still had some and brought very little to the table.
He's up against Bruno so he's a squad option. I said exactly then when we were linked with him and signed him. He's never going to be a regular starter here, doesn't make him an awful player.
He's up against Bruno so he's a squad option. I said exactly then when we were linked with him and signed him. He's never going to be a regular starter here, doesn't make him an awful player.
That’s a ridiculous take based on the tiny bit of play Donny had this past season. He didn’t get a run of games to build momentum, and he was played all over the pitch rather than one favoured position. Tough season for the lad, people said the same thing about Fred and after a pants first season he’s come good. You can’t judge on one season alone, give the boy time to adjust. I have a feeling he’ll nail down a starting position this season, especially if Pogba leaves.
I can and I did. It’s my opinion, maybe I will be wrong.
You are describing a runner profile of 10 who's main function is to make intelligent off the ball runs into space to exploit spaces that have been opened up by team mates. That's not a playmaker. The playmaker is the main passer in the team who is always available to receive the ball to feet and pass it through to the runners. He is not the one making the runs.
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I'm sure the prospect of him "using" united to get another big contract has crossed their minds so they are a bit hesitant about submitting an official bid barring confirmed personal terms agreement with the player and agent
Pretty much how I see it. He's not at the level to which we should aspire but he's not a bad player. I do think the club's too big for him though. He plays with fear, like he's always overawed. Not a great sign when much of that is not even with the added pressure of fans in stadiums.
If both he and Pogba leave, our midfield will be incredibly threadbare once more (Fred, McTominay, Matic, Bruno). We'd have to sign at least two midfielders and so far we're only being linked to an 18-year-old.
Yeah your right in fairness. Another reason I'm hoping Pogba renews, our midfield is going to be so incredibly lacking in the creativity department.
Sky seem so slow nowadays
He says some really odd things but I think “slow” is possibly a step too far.
You won't be. I wholeheartedly agree.
Was for most of it I agree but he did finish the season really well. Showed the promise we invested in. But as some posters have stated, unless we play the system he requires, he looks well out of it.
A playmaker is someone who 'makes plays' and doesn't necessarily have to be the main passer in the team. When you have the likes of Modric and Kroos in the team, they become the key play makers when it comes to transitioning play.
Can United just give him a deadline?? Make decision to this date, if haven't decided yet, au revoir. It gives everyone a purpose to work for.
Unless the purpose is to make United look busy in the market.
Unless the purpose is to make United look busy in the market.
Please god no... Lingard is done. A purple patch when the pressure was off at West ham proves nothing.
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