Raphaël Varane

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Insanity said:
A player getting accolades far ahead of his performances so far in his career. He has looked a mixed bag in the few times I have seen him, good a few times and dodgy the others. I wonder how many times has his fan club actually watched him play full games, which haven't been a whole lot due to injuries and Pepe-Ramos being ahead of him in the Madrid pecking order.

He is a good talent with a whole lot to prove. Not a 'Great' defender as being mentioned on here. 20m-22m is the correct valuation for him. Whether Madrid are willing to let him go is another matter.
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He's started 69 games for Real Madrid and came off bench in a lot more, I'm sure his "fan club" have seen enough of him to judge.

Bubz27 said:
Just had a thought. Its no secret Madrid want to bring through an academy product. Maybe they're leaning towards Nacho as the 3rd choice CB and see Varane as somebody they can get £20m+ for.

There seems to have been too many instances where Varane has been linked away for there not to be some substance to it. Not saying it will happen, I just have a feeling that he's available for the right price.
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I doubt it. Nacho is average, he's the type of player you'd be happy enough to keep around as a versatile squad player but wouldn't kick up a fuss if he wanted to leave. No chance they let Varane go to keep him.
 
Damien said:
He signed a six year contract in September. This ain't going to happen.
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Isn't his release clause supposed to be 19 mil though? If it is, Real can do jack and I'm not sure Varane will want to stay on the bench when he should be getting regular first team football. I mean he's only 21 and is in a crucial development stage, he needs to play often and I'm sure he knows that better than anyone else.

Should he receive a offer from a big club, I'm sure he'd take it. I just hope that big club is us.
 
TheUnitedWay said:
Isn't his release clause supposed to be 19 mil though? If it is, Real can do jack and I'm not sure Varane will want to stay on the bench when he should be getting regular first team football. I mean he's only 21 and is in a crucial development stage, he needs to play often and I'm sure he knows that better than anyone else.

Should he receive a offer from a big club, I'm sure he'd take it. I just hope that big club is us.
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This cant be true....???
Real wouldnt be so daft to put that low figure as his clause and Bayern would be there sniffing if so.
 
TheUnitedWay said:
Isn't his release clause supposed to be 19 mil though? If it is, Real can do jack and I'm not sure Varane will want to stay on the bench when he should be getting regular first team football. I mean he's only 21 and is in a crucial development stage, he needs to play often and I'm sure he knows that better than anyone else.

Should he receive a offer from a big club, I'm sure he'd take it. I just hope that big club is us.
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Doubt it. Before signing the extension it was supposed to be around £25m. Can't see Real putting in a release clause as low as that for him as his stock is pretty high. He's not played in the league for them that much this season but has been a constant in the Champions League.
 
Actually, I just did a few google searches and I have no idea where I got the idea that his release clause is 19 million. But he's got to have a release clause, how much is it? Does anybody know?
 
TheUnitedWay said:
Actually, I just did a few google searches and I have no idea where I got the idea that his release clause is 19 million. But he's got to have a release clause, how much is it? Does anybody know?
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The kind of release clause you're thinking of would only be applicable if Varane was wanted by other Spanish clubs anyway.
 
TheUnitedWay said:
Actually, I just did a few google searches and I have no idea where I got the idea that his release clause is 19 million. But he's got to have a release clause, how much is it? Does anybody know?
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He had a 30m€ Clause before the renewal, and there is rumors that Madrid wanted a 100m€ clause in the new contract.
 
Damien said:
The kind of release clause you're thinking of would only be applicable if Varane was wanted by other Spanish clubs anyway.
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Not really, the release clause is for every club, but the amount change for VAT and other taxes reasons.
 
sun_tzu said:
Can't see madrid selling varane... And even if they did I expect Jose and Chelsea would be favourites to buy him
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Times and things have changed now. If United want a player, they are able to blow any PL club out of the water, like they did with Shaw [whom Chelsea wanted too].
 
The best of a very few young CB's who actually look like they can be world class for years to come. Why on earth would they sell him?
 
One incentive to come here is he'd instantly be the main man we build the defense around as LvG likes a CB that can pass it out from the back.
 
If they were even remotely considering selling him we should be all over this. He'd be out first choice and in the games he's played Im slightly unsure why he isnt Madrid's first choice.

Could see Mourinho being in the market for him though. To give Terry a rest / follow on from him, if Varane were to be available.
 
Would love to see him here - for £20m its a no-brainer and would be another one of those players that Madrid discard that wouldn't make much sense - to me anyway......
 
Would love him at United. His only weakness seems to be getting caught out on the turn from time to time, but then you remember he's only 21. He could be the next Ferdinand for us.
 
Will never be sold for 20mil whether or not it's close to his correct valuation, the guy has way too much hype (fair imo) to be sold at all or at that price.
 
Coxy said:
No need - they have Zouma ready for Terry
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Zouma will never be as good as Terry, or as good as Varane.

Varane will not leave Madrid this summer because I think that he has a chance to take Pepe's place next year with this one turning 32 and maybe Madrid cashing on him rather than Varane.

If Varane leaves, Chelsea will be his destination. Varane told French medias that he had a foot in Manchester and it was Jose Mourinho who convinced him to play for him.
 
This deal looks very unlikely, if not altogether impossible. Having said that, even if there's a remote chance - Varane is one of those players that might well justify a transfer fee in the region of £40-50m. He's not even 22, already one of the Top 10-15 defenders in the world and might go on to play for another 12-15 seasons. The long term benefits of any such deal would easily surpass the investment. Parallels with Rio Ferdinand aplenty, who cost £30m more than a decade ago now and was worth every penny.

Would be madness on Madrid's part to let him go, they don't have a need to sell, the guy just signed a new long term contract, Zidane would loathe to see him go - being his mentor of sorts and an avid admirer (comparing Varane to Blanc), and Pepe won't be around forever. One never knows with Perez though so in a sense all bets are off, maybe he's dazzled by Hummels, the commercial benefits of having a high profile Adidas sponsored player and wants to lure him to Madrid, while offloading Varane for an equivalent amount.
 
Invictus said:
Would be madness on Madrid's part to let him go, they don't have a need to sell, the guy just signed a new long term contract, Zidane would loathe to see him go - being his mentor of sorts and an avid admirer (comparing Varane to Blanc), and Pepe won't be around forever. One never knows with Perez though so in a sense all bets are off, maybe he's dazzled by Hummels, the commercial benefits of having a high profile Adidas sponsored player and wants to lure him to Madrid, while offloading Varane for an equivalent amount.
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Wishful thinking to say the least, but I'd take Varane over Hummels. Easily too.
 
Mark_GrumpyLion said:
Wishful thinking to say the least, but I'd take Varane over Hummels. Easily too.
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Me too. Hummels is quite a lot better than what we currently have, but I'm not sure he is worth £40m or whatever the rumour is. Varane reminds me of Rio quite a bit, similar type of player.
 
legball said:
Times and things have changed now. If United want a player, they are able to blow any PL club out of the water, like they did with Shaw [whom Chelsea wanted too].
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We didn't outbid Chelsea for Shaw, though. They never bid on him at all as Mourinho has publicly stated because Southampton demanded way too much.

Mourinho called Varane the best CB in the world a couple of weeks ago, is very close to him, and is the one who gave him his breakthrough. If there's any chance of him being available I can't see any destination other than Chelsea.

All a moot point, though, as there's no chance they let him leave.
 
Hopefully the only reason Woody hasn't broken out his cheque book is because we're still looking at Hummels.
 
Redo91 said:
I'm pretty certain that was Zidane.
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Mourinho gave an interview (that I saw) at TF1 in November mainly speaking about Chelsea, PSG, Pogba and Varane

He just said that Varane had a foot in Manchester before he called him and signed him.

Zidane proposed Varane at Perez and Mourinho. The Portuguese said that when he saw his first DVD of Varane he wanted him absolutely.

During this time, Fergie was negotiating with Varane's mother because he didn't speak English

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ped-steal-real-madrid-says-jose-mourinho.html
 
Chaky_Best said:
Mourinho gave an interview (that I saw) at TF1 in November mainly speaking about Chelsea, PSG, Pogba and Varane

He just said that Varane had a foot in Manchester before he called him and signed him.

Zidane proposed Varane at Perez and Mourinho. The Portuguese said that when he saw his first DVD of Varane he wanted him absolutely.

During this time, Fergie was negotiating with Varane's mother because he didn't speak English

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ped-steal-real-madrid-says-jose-mourinho.html
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We all know Mou likes to bend the truth, the player has said it was Zidane who convinced him.
 
Chaky_Best said:
Mourinho gave an interview (that I saw) at TF1 in November mainly speaking about Chelsea, PSG, Pogba and Varane

He just said that Varane had a foot in Manchester before he called him and signed him.

Zidane proposed Varane at Perez and Mourinho. The Portuguese said that when he saw his first DVD of Varane he wanted him absolutely.

During this time, Fergie was negotiating with Varane's mother because he didn't speak English

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ped-steal-real-madrid-says-jose-mourinho.html
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Varane said himself at Canal+ and Telefoot that Zidane called him when he was preparing his Baccalaureat.
 
Cassidy said:
We all know Mou likes to bend the truth, the player has said it was Zidane who convinced him.
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+1 mate.

I don't know what the truth is, but we could have bought Jones and Varane the same year, with Rio + Vidic + Evans + Smalling already at the club
 
Chaky_Best said:
Mourinho gave an interview (that I saw) at TF1 in November mainly speaking about Chelsea, PSG, Pogba and Varane

He just said that Varane had a foot in Manchester before he called him and signed him.

Zidane proposed Varane at Perez and Mourinho. The Portuguese said that when he saw his first DVD of Varane he wanted him absolutely.

During this time, Fergie was negotiating with Varane's mother because he didn't speak English

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ped-steal-real-madrid-says-jose-mourinho.html
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Well Varane says otherwise.
 
Orc said:
We didn't outbid Chelsea for Shaw, though. They never bid on him at all as Mourinho has publicly stated because Southampton demanded way too much.

Mourinho called Varane the best CB in the world a couple of weeks ago, is very close to him, and is the one who gave him his breakthrough. If there's any chance of him being available I can't see any destination other than Chelsea.

All a moot point, though, as there's no chance they let him leave.
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That's what am saying. If Madrid decide to sell him, they'll demand too much and Chelsea are not in the position to pay such money as comfortably as they would do it before, United are. It's what happened with Shaw, they were definitely very interested in him, just couldn't match what we were willing to pay.
 
legball said:
That's what am saying. If Madrid decide to sell him, they'll demand too much and Chelsea are not in the position to pay such money as comfortably as they would do it before, United are. It's what happened with Shaw, they were definitely very interested in him, just couldn't match what we were willing to pay.
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It wasn't that they couldn't afford him (they spent similar fees on both Fabregas and Costa) but rather that Mourinho said he "couldn't justify" paying £30m on an 18 year old fullback. His reasoning was that Shaw would've gone into to Chelsea having never won or accomplished anything and been on higher wages than some of their long-time veterans who have won everything.

Varane would be different in my eyes. Top class CB's are extremely rare to come by and for Mourinho to have a personal relationship with him surely means he'd have a leg up on any competition.
 
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