I have no idea why Varane doesn't start for Madrid. If he signed he'd be our best defender. He's brilliant. Can't see it happening unless Varane asked to leave.
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I don't see it happening. I think Zidane has taken him under his wing, he convinced him to go there, I think he sees him as his mentor in a way, and given the long term plans are to get Zidane managing the first team, I think Varane is just being patient but will be one of their big players for years to come.
Haha overreact much?
How can you gather how i would have felt about Fergusons early years based on the fact i don't think a particular formation is working for us?
The 3412 is clearly not working in my opinion, a lot of people think the same. Even Van Gaal's recent quotes about switching back to 433 and the signing of Di Maria signal he could well agree.
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To say a formation has failed after 3 competitive games, with no settled team & injuries to over half our starting 11. Is that not an overreaction? So again guys like you would have had Sir Alex would have had Sir Alex out! Lots of people had the same opinion, they were proved wrong.
As I said go read up on Van Gaal philosophy. It will enlighten you & give you a more informed opinion.
Again with the sir alex stuff? My opinion on a certain formation has nothing what so ever to do with the faith and patience i have with a manager understand that before posting that again please. One has nothing to do with the other.
I have read tons of stuff on LVG over the years i have been a huge fan since his Ajax days, he was my choice to replace Ferguson in 2002. So to say i was delighted when he was appointed this time around is an understatement. Make no mistake my frustration with 352 doesn't affect my opinion on LVG at all, i don't think we could be in safer hands.
Am i overreacting after only 3 games in regards to the formation, yeah fair enough mate i probably am. But i have seen this formation tried over the years by many managers and many teams (especially in the mid 90's) and it has never really caught on. The reason for that is in my opinion its easy to exploit on the counter, and the lack of width makes it easy for teams to sit deep and defend against it, with only one player out wide (WB) instead of a winger and fullback all your attacking play tends to go through the middle. As we have seen we are having problems stretching teams.
LVG has never deployed this formation before at club level as far as i know, i think he is only trying it out because he thinks it suits our current players. In an ideal world i don't think he would use this system.
He was immaculate tonight against Spain, really reminds me of a young Rio, did he sign a new deal with Real? 
He was immaculate tonight against Spain, really reminds me of a young Rio, did he sign a new deal with Real?
He should, he's the Real deal.
He really does. He is such a classy defender already and on occasions has shown hes capable of mixing it physically aswell. He dealt with Costa, albeit obviously carrying a knock, with relative ease.He was immaculate tonight against Spain, really reminds me of a young Rio, did he sign a new deal with Real?
He is already very good and Id wager him to be the best defender in the world one day. I dont see a weakness in his game that won't be fixed with experience. He has everything you'd want in a centre back.
I just dont see Real letting him go while Zidane is there. But if I could pick one centre back in the world, it'd be him.
He'd be my pick as well, even over Hummels. I'd say he's already in top 15-10 CB's in the world and has everything it takes to become the very best.
Hummels is a great leader, physically imposing, comfortable on the ball and gets his body in the way and uses his strength well, but fir me Varane is already a far better player than Hummels, his pace, reading of the game, making players with the ball go where he wants them to, and tackling are all far superior.
I agree with people saying he seems similar to Rio, who in his pomp was possibly the best defender in the world. I think if Varane was playing regularly we would already be arguing he is the best defender in the world he is that good. JOnes right centre back, Varane in the middle and if Rojo is good, him on the left looks like a very good defence. I think Varane would be the perfect partner for Jones who is in my opinion our best defender quality wise, though he has to step up and prove it this season
Rio rates him highly, always puts him at the top of his list of defenders.
Who knows. He did regect us for Madrid though. Many forget we were strongly linked with him before he moved to Madrid.
Exactly....ruddy Mourinho seemed steal him from under our noses
Zidane did it. Much like Leonardo on the Lucas deal.
Signed a new contract.
Shame, I actually thought that he could of been a potential target for us in the Summer if he was still not being picked at Madrid, Quite strange he has signed a new deal unless he doesn't mind being a Substitute, Although im sure the nice wage increase and sign bonus helped
damn. for me, the best defender we could sign.
Nothing strange about it, seeing as I doubt he sees himself being a substitute for much longer. It's like when people wonder why Kroos would go to a 'heavily stocked' Madrid, when he could be the main man elsewhere. He clearly fancied his chances of playing lots of football, and was promised as much.
They'd have improved Varane's pay and probably promised him a place in their future, so it makes perfect sense for him.
Whether that promise is delivered is another thing.
The new contract being signed will also mean that his price will go up if he is to eventually be sold (hopefully not). Imo he should be starting although it is quite clear that Ancelotti prefers experienced players.
Damn! I really hoped we might be able to nab him, that's 2 down and 1 left in our hopes of getting a top class CB.
Meh...we have Blackett
Reckon Jose will throw big money to get him to Chelsea at some point
I do think he is a tad overrated on here.
He's a good player, but he just seems to have a mistake in him every game.
He's a good player, but he just seems to have a mistake in him every game.
Absolutely agree. His game is suited to euro football. He's a slight upgrade to Smalling IMO.....
Miles ahead of Smalling. He doesn't look scared when in possession for starters.
How is it slight? He's miles ahead of Smalling. Will be the best centre back in the world if he gets over his injury problems (and Ancelotti stops playing the inferior Pepe ahead of him).
lets offer them smalling and a couple of million then
Agreed. He's way ahead of Smalling, in pretty much all aspects of defending with the added bonus that he's composed and comfortable on the ball. If it hadn't of been for Zidane's intervention, Fergie would have brought him here to be groomed as Rio's successor.
Yeah he definitely reminds me a lot of Ferdinand. Never looks rushed and rarely has to dive in, one of the best things to have in a centre back I reckon.
He's so far ahead in terms of ability compared to any young defender under the age of 23, going to be the best defender in the world in a few years.
Aymeric Laporte is another with massive potential, the French have quite an impressive set of CBs at the moment.
The French have fantastic youth fullstop.
As for laporte Yes I agree he has tremendous talent But let's not forget he's at Bilbao.......we all know how freaking hard they are to deal with. Will probably end up costing £30 million+ if we went for him.
He probably would go for top bucks but from what I've seen and read he might very well be worth it. Bayern & Barca supposedly were sniffing around during the summer but were put off by the price. Will be best for him to play another couple seasons there before moving on
That Spanish league is completely different to the prem. Not saying he's not a good player just this league has a history of exposing people and he'd look different playing in it IMO. His football is better suited to where he is and so would Smalling who get more time on the ball without being pressured so high up the field.
Varane is going to be the best centre back in the world in a few years. He's the next Ferdinand. Absolutely class.
Smalling I don't think is even good enough for us.
Smalling I don't think is even good enough for us.
At this rate we are going to have to spend that kind of money on a new centre back either way, I would be very happy if it was to get Laporte, I think he needs a move soon to benefit his career as he seems to be going through the motions a little bit in some games recently, a bit like Herrera did in the first few months of last season, Even still, he is still Bilbao's best player at the moment
Who do people think have the higher potential? Varane or Mangala.
Varane, easily.
Read on the BBC gossip column that he turned us down because we just signed Phil Jones?
Probably bullshit, but interesting. I doubt most here would sacrifice Phil Jones for anyone, solely for the fact it's Phil Jones.
Probably bullshit, but interesting. I doubt most here would sacrifice Phil Jones for anyone, solely for the fact it's Phil Jones.
Varane said so himself. It was a combination of that and Zidane's influence that kept him away from United.
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