This is a stupid fecking take. It’s obvious that Bruno is shagged. He’s not stopped since June 2020.
Rangnick - "Apart from goalkeeping we need to improve all areas of our squad" | Muppets amass
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This is a stupid fecking take. It’s obvious that Bruno is shagged. He’s not stopped since June 2020.
I'd even back you over the players such is my disgust at the players.
No, it wouldn't have the same effect at cementing the need for a rebuild to the money men.
I don't think he's taking any of this personally to be honest. In that I don't think he cares about his reputation. He was brought in to fire fight, so the fire was already ablaze is how he seems to see it.
This is an issue across lots of managers and no cultural change has occurred so his criticism of the players combined with his criticism of the clubs lack of a solid vision is not whimsical as far as I see it.
Why wouldn’t it? As far as I can see numerous players aren’t good enough and neither is the manager. And any manager who thinks playing Dalot is a good idea shouldn’t be trusted to build a squad.
Because today is a hammering of Manchester United by Liverpool. That's a platform to force the sort of change we need.
He's not building a squad though, he signed nobody in January, he's advocating a planned rebuild to solve the issues he's highlighting
These players have constantly been coddled and excused and it's done them nor us any good. It's bizarre that anyone would get want to repeat the same mistake instead of setting the message.
The clubs standards need resetting it's as simple as that. For those that remain they need to be on board with it because it won't be the easy pass they've been getting when ETH arrives.
The clubs standards need resetting it's as simple as that. For those that remain they need to be on board with it because it won't be the easy pass they've been getting when ETH arrives.
He was saying it before we played Liverpool. How does that help the team?
I really don’t see a lot of RR covering his ass with any of this. He is a caretaker manager and he’s trying to get a tune out of this bunch. He is upfront about the changes that are truly needed, to the board, to the press, to the fans. Everyone with eyes can see the team needs a massive overhaul. It’s better we do t get European football next season (assuming 4th is gone). RR is also telling any players who might fancy playing for United next season that their work is unacceptable. It’s up to the players to rise to the challenge or get slung out the door.
Well it obviously didn't. But maybe he was clutching at straws.
Maybe the game was a write off, the bookies thought so. And the players didn't try, which is not new.
We need something to change, it's been a decade of malfunction and it obviously needs something to change and we just disagree on what that is, but I'm glad someone seems to be trying.
The point is there was no need for a huge new contract. With the squad overhaul that everyone agrees we need he might not even be a key player going forward.
Nothing is likely to change in my opinion. It's irrelevant what Ralf says as it's all been obvious for years. He's just going down swinging on his way out.
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For as good as Bruno was to start his United career is all been for nought. I was thinking when he got into his spat with Henderson tonight that as far as talent goes Bruno would have him but what Henderson has done is adapt & excel. I don’t think we can have a winning squad where Bruno is our best midfielder, & giving him a huge contract that benifits the player more so than the club at this time is a prime example we’ve not changed as much as we’ll need to.
Like you I don’t see much changing, the next manager will be given a player or two then told he has to work with players who’ve shown us who they are under multiple managers.
What's the downside though? Do you think it can make players perform less? Make them lose motivation? Are you then suggesting that what you're seeing now is the players seriously caring and trying?
In normal times, I'd say you're right, but it seems to me things are pretty rotten in the squad. I mean, things have been shit for ages, so any player with a brain should realize that serious change is coming from which no-one is safe - especially now a strict tactician and disciplinarian is being hired as the new coach. Yet tonight was another lacklustre performance. So why not be blunt, and see if anyone bites and finally starts playing as if their career depended on it? Again, what's the downside under the current circumstances?
He’s been moaning about our squad for ages. Which I could get on board with if he actually seemed like he was doing his own job well or even remotely capable of it. He isn’t though. Continually picking Maguire and Dalot cancels any good will I may have had.
And he expected them to play for him after saying stuff like this?
He is German and they are normally upfront and do not try to beat the bush. he does not care if he gets a job at United or not. Or maybe someone in United is pushing him to say these things so they may be able to get some change from The Glazers? It is more brutal when the Manager says it publicly that say it privately. Now everyone knows what Ralf thinks of this bunch of players. They cannot hide and The Glazers cannot hide.
And if we'd listened to him, we'd be maybe through the rebuild now.
- would have gotten rid of Pogba
- would have gotten rid of Martial
- would have bought McGuire for less money....eeks! scrap that one!
Not sure who else would have come in, but people were just so so sure that Mourinho didn't know what he was talking about.
Playing for Utd and getting paid millions should be enough.
No he does not. He has only a few games to go and he could select a different bunch of players if he wants.
He's a fool, then. His job was to get top 4, he's failed, and now he's just making things worse with comments like that.
Foolishly I've been expecting them to play all season. In some parallel universe criticism can actually stir an athlete's pride.
I get paid a decent wage in my job and I want to leave. Money is not the motivator you think it is. Playing for United should be in theory, but if the culture of the club is so bad, how can you keep up the motivation?
Have they played for him since he arrived?
And if the culture is so bad what do you expect someone to do as an interim with no January signings?
Has he even bothered to earn respect and instill discipline and structure, to get results since he arrived? No, he failed.
Criticism can, but you have to word it correctly and in the right context. Slagging half the team off week after week in public (as opposed to being constructive and humble) and especially before and after a massive derby game is not how you criticise athletes, it's not even how you criticise people in normal jobs. He has failed to assert his authority because he can man manage his way out of a paper bag, he's completely failed to read the dressing room and figure out how to deal with them. In turn, they don't respect him because they don't feel it's constructive criticism but personal attacks. Saying that half of them will sold or released next season is not exactly motivating is it? A lot of the players may not give a shit, and some of them are for sure lazy and useless, but when even players who usually work hard have given up, then questions need to be asked not just about upper management and the glazers, but Rangnick and his staff. In the five months he's been here, he's failed to achieve his basic task of top 4, failed to instill a basic playing style, and failed to keep standards up in regards to training, fitness and coaching. We had an easy run of games to secure top 4, he fecked most of the games up tactically. But rarely has he criticised himself, he hides behind the intense dislike of the team by blaming them for everything. He has just as much to blame for our current predicament.
How does signing a new player fix the culture? it doesn't. You start by actually making changes as to how dressing is ran, you make it clear to the players what they can and cannot do, what is acceptable, shit that managers do. If Tuchel can do it in a few weeks, why can't this supposed genius?
Because Tuchel was not an interim manager. He was The Manager. Ralf was an interim manager brought it to try and sort out the mess Ole created. At least he has identified it publicly and privately. Now there is no place for anyone to hide. Getting 4th place with this lot would have been calamitous as again it would sweep under the carpet what is wrong with this club. Now it is in the open and The Glazers have to take action.
That literally makes no sense. Rangnick was brought in to get top 4, but he also needed to get results, and to do that he had to make changes which he has failed to do. How can you expect him to make top 4 by doing exactly what Ole did? It doesn't matter that Tuchel was a permanent replacement, he still did it in WEEKS. Rangnick has failed to do it in 5 months. Big Sam has managed to change clubs in his interim stints, even if it was temporary. At least he has managed to save clubs from relegation. Even Rafa Benitez when he was interim at Chelsea won a trophy with them and saved the season.
To see who has the mentality to stay and fight?
Theres no way they can afford to rebuild with 8 plus players incoming, the only way is to fill the squad out with hungry youth, Didn't Fergie basically do the same thing with Fergies Fledglings before he struck lucky with the 92 as well as adding top quality established players?
Champions league would actually be a bad thing as they are not likely to be good enough next year anyway so a rebuild with youth getting lots of experience, get rid of the journeymen and chancers and hopefully recruit the right older established players for the playing system for the next 5 years. h hungry youth.Ten Hag has his work to do but at least the expectation level has been beaten out of us for a while.
Champions league would actually be a bad thing as they are not likely to be good enough next year anyway so a rebuild with youth getting lots of experience, get rid of the journeymen and chancers and hopefully recruit the right older established players for the playing system for the next 5 years. h hungry youth.Ten Hag has his work to do but at least the expectation level has been beaten out of us for a while.
It doesn't, not signing anyone just highlights his role at the club. A stop gap manager with a specific remit to analyse what is obviously deep issue at the club.
The Tuchel comparison is awful, the clubs are structured completely differently. That and Chelsea have a better squad to work with.
His remit was also to get top 4, to get results. Not just to analyse the squad, stop re-writing history. He's failed to get top 4 because he's failed to change anything and now doesn't bother to.
Chelsea didn't have a better squad when he replaced Lampard, and they haven't exactly lit the league on fire in his first full season either. He still managed to make his mark quickly, fat Spanish waiter did it in the same club, loads of managers who have been successful interims have managed to change things and get results.
He may be right. I didn't watch the game live but Dalot's attempt at "defending" seems to have cost us a few goals. You can do anything with this standard of plauer.
He keeps picking him though. Shaw may not be having the best of seasons, but he's miles better than Dalot at his worse.
Nobody is rewriting history. Just pointing out what you are not in your ranting. Of course top 4 was a goal that we didnt make. We just disagree why.
And yes loads of interim managers have worked, which proves nothing as the circumstances were all unique. No interim manager has come in after a misfiring decade and done anything as far as I know.
Was he playing on the left ? He's bad enough on the right for us to force him down the left now. It seemed as though three Liverpool goals came from that side. The first goal was just laughably bad.
He was, and yep, the opener was a shocker, they were all pressing on the halfway line, and the manager hung them out to dry saying they were specifically told not to do that
If there was ever a game to park the bus this was it. Players like Dalot and Maguire are not going to avoid gifting goals in the form this team is in against Liverpool. Such a bad goal to concede and set the tone.He was, and yep, the opener was a shocker, they were all pressing on the halfway line, and the manager hung them out to dry saying they were specifically told not to do that
All this talk about shipping out and in, but it's hardly new and the major hurdle will always remain - the players we want gone are genuinely fecking shite and as close to unsellable as players can get. Look at how our loaned players are doing, how the feck do you begin to sell Martial? Who on earth would be mad enough to even think about matching Maguire's wages?
With the exception of those whose contracts are up, expect the squad rot to remain. We would be better off building from absolute scratch than off the back of what we currently have.
With the exception of those whose contracts are up, expect the squad rot to remain. We would be better off building from absolute scratch than off the back of what we currently have.
He should be and it makes sense. He won't be the manager for next season and changes are imminent, if there's one person to shake the players it's him. You would think for someone with a firm for consultancy job, he's not that much of an idiot to pick a fight with almost all the players if he's not specifically instructed or allowed to do so in order to make the next manager's job (and his next job) easier. It has to be done.