You just don’t know when to stop, do you.
The preparation of the team today was abysmal. There is no excuse losing to Liverpool like this. Sorry, mate. It’s over. No reason to defend Ralf anymore. He’s a fraud.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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The preparation of the team today was abysmal. There is no excuse losing to Liverpool like this. Sorry, mate. It’s over. No reason to defend Ralf anymore. He’s a fraud.
We'll never know how good Carrick could have been. We'll never even know if Conte was a fit for us. But it's clear as day Rangnick is an awful manager, and his recent behaviour in press conferences calling out the players in a derby of all games, and then expecting these players to play for him is just madness. If he was the manager of a shop that shit talked the entire staff to their faces constantly about how poor they were, no one would say he was a good man manager even if he was right. The would say the guy doesn't know how to deal with different personalities, to get rid of problem workers, and how to communicate properly. But as a manager, he get's a pass because he's just playing to frustrated fans who have grown to dislike this team. There are plenty of individuals like pogba and maguire to dislike, but to paint the whole team as awful is stupid.
Cardiff were going down regardless. Hence why they sacked their manager mid season.
I can’t be bothered listening to his shite anymore. If players won’t listen to his instructions, stop picking them.
True. But it can also be a fact that Ralf is a horrible manager as well.
We need a board of footballing people that's priority one. If you saying all that with the board we have currently, then that's fecking stupid
But don't be naive in thinking because Mourinho/Ole/Van Gaal was given hundreds of millions of pounds and they pissed it away, ETH shouldn't be given the same.
The board and the manager has to be one - the same vision. But the board HAS to also give power to the manager and to let them run with their philosophy, otherwise the players will never respect them.
What's 'fecking stupid; is letting the club get in the players and the new manager not liking them. For all you know, the club gave Bruno a new contract, but the new manager not liking that player. Now that's pretty idiotic
But he's only saying what we as fans and pundits in the media were already saying. We already knew about this, yet he has done nothing to address even the most immediate of problems like the bad coaching, the bad training levels, fitness, discipline and elements of the culture. If Tuchel could do that in Chelsea in a few weeks, Conte at Tottenham (where the players for SURE down tooled to get rid of Poch and Nuno) also managed to do that in a few months, how come Ragnick can't?
Then play whom?
I expect a manager to come and either do what he needs to get results or start playing in a fashion that will be effective when they get used to it. Rangnick is doing neither. People keep saying there’s nothing Rangnick could do to get better results. Carrick was able to do it in tougher fixtures than Rangnick has fecked up.
The cult of Rangnick has become weirder than Martial’s. I genuinely can’t believe people have watched him manage us through pitiful four goal defeats to City and Liverpool and come out defending him.
You have to understand from a shareholder’s point of view, the players are assets. When the CEO starts devaluing your assets in the media, you have a huge problem. Stupid by Ralf, but his career is precariously teetering on the edge anyhow.
Horrible manager or not, this squad cost millions, these players are paid millions, if you have an ounce of ambition, you will show more than they have on the pitch. They gave up in November, who does that? I am glad RR has come in and spoken the truth and called these assholes out and labelled the job as a rebuild.
Remember when United were releasing bullshit PR about chasing targets early and getting the new manager in asap to confirm transfer targets?
All bullshit. Rangniks basically said we still need to appoint a manager just so we can start that process. We're behind again. The only conclusion I can draw is that our owners genuinely don't have a scooby about football or have any interest in us doing well on the pitch.
All bullshit. Rangniks basically said we still need to appoint a manager just so we can start that process. We're behind again. The only conclusion I can draw is that our owners genuinely don't have a scooby about football or have any interest in us doing well on the pitch.
Any one of the numerous youth team players. Or are they not listening either?
Assets the club has failed time and time again to shift because it devalues them on the pitch… I doubt Ralfs comments make a difference
He’s an interim. United aren’t giving him the power. You really think they are going to allow an interim to change the fitness and preparation team? It’s not his job and in the interview he’s just making it known to everyone.
There are DoF and TD’s in charge who clearly aren’t doing their job. Too busy helping with tactics on the bench.
Or maybe some people think that although the squad is stuffed with overated and overpaid players the manager is still underperforming. Some people seem to struggled with the concept of their being more than one party to blame for this shit show
Put your reading specs on.
The post was not 99% of excuses relating to Ole.
It was about the poor quality of the squad and the fact that the warning signs were there, even after miraculously finishing in 2nd place last year.
Even if we had been playing well recently, we were very unlikely to get anything out of this Liverpool team.
In truth, we almost got a half decent result tonight.
I genuinely thought and dreaded that it would have been 5 or 6 nil.
Disagree. Saying feck off to 80m in CL revenue was never the plan, nor should it be for a public company. Don’t be naive… they legit thought Ralfcould turn it around and he hasn’t.
we made 2nd last season mate with the same squad. Another feck up by the Glazers.
He doesn't even bother playing Bailly. I don't rate the player at all, but he was he even given a chance under Rangnick? Mata as well, had one chance in a dead rubber CL game where we got put under the cosh by bloody young boys, and then didn't play at all for months, then Ralph desperately throws him on in a few matches. The man is a consummate professional, sure he's past it physically, but he can clearly still provide for the team in some capacity. He has binned players like Martial, rightly, but then continues to give Rashford chance after chance. It boggles the mind.
It is always the talk about rebuild, but there are professional players and a good manager should get them to tactically play well.
Brighton is an example they always give it a go vs the top sides even though they have a really poor squad.
Brighton is an example they always give it a go vs the top sides even though they have a really poor squad.
Have you noticed his defenders have been desperately trying to re-write history saying he was brought in to shake things up in the dressing room and tear the club up apart to rebuild from the ruins? When he was actually brought in to get top 4 as you say, and also to evaluate the team and sort them out to some extent. Sure, not completely fix every issue, but to put a plaster on it so to speak. He couldn't even do that.
Speak the truth, brother. Ralf is watching his consulting business go down the drain, and he’s trying to hold on to what little shred of respect he has left.
Some people are also struggling with the concept that even getting in the top managers in the world won't get a tune out of the this squad, regardless.
High possibly that this squad was never going to change their training/fitness/mentality/physicality for any new manager in a very short time. Also this squad is just piss poor in midfield, a huge glaring weakness that the board didn't want to improve in the winter.
But here we are , lots of ifs and buts and hindsight.
Why do people talk about Ralf as if he’s an actual manager, he’s a DOF playing role of manager, he’s there to help identify the next steps and the problems in the squad which he is now communicating.
I don’t think the club hired him thinking he’d get top 4, just to get asclose as he can anduse his club building expertise to help build the post Ed united.
he’s not sn Ancelotti or Gus Hiddink.
I don’t think the club hired him thinking he’d get top 4, just to get asclose as he can anduse his club building expertise to help build the post Ed united.
he’s not sn Ancelotti or Gus Hiddink.
I do not believe for a second that he's worse than Ole. You can tell by his demeanour alone that he isn't.
This is on the players.
I don't think you can. You have to play a certain number of first team players registered.
Er, yes, because what they want results. His job as interim manager is the same as any other manager when it comes to getting results. Making sure player are fit, motivated, training well, and prepared. Are you seriously suggesting to me that as an interim he can't do basic management? Your excuses are pitifully bad.
Thats because Brighton do not have spoiled brats on absurd wages. Their entire team actually cares and do the best they can every game unlike some others, cough, cough. I've already been very critical of Ralf but truth is this team has far too many passengers and players who think they are way better than they are.
And pick who? There professional footballer's playing for United.
We need a rebuild.....at least ten players...simple as that!
Yes! The hilarious bit is the “down tools” bullshit I see people spewing.
Ralf is a clown. Said it 2 months ago. The Armas hiring was an absolute disgrace. His team selection has been awful — Dalot on Salah… ? Is Ralf high? Dalot is our slowest FB, playing him on the left… feck me.
You seem to be having some kind of meltdown tonight. Log off for a bit
No rule that I’m aware of. He hasn’t even tried to play any more than Elanga.
How much things do you want him to do? It’s not his job. He’s made the recommendation let the club sort it out like a normal well run club would do. Do you think Pep n Klopp hired their current fitness team. You think Pep was out here researching and doing interviews for a new fitness Team. Jose in a press conference said the same thing as a permanent manager here. It’s not their job mate!!!
Okay cool lets throw the kids into the shit show and hope they float. Please feel free to find any club that drops its entire team and plays teenagers. Our youngsters aren’t good enough either, they’d get humiliated at Pool, it’d be a cricket score.
Ralf needs to be more flexible with how the team works, he’s an interim manager and can’t go and buy the players to make his system work. We look like a team bereft of confidence who’re being coached to play water polo on a football pitch at the moment. Throwing kids into starting positions won’t be doing them any favours. Ralf needs to get some team spirit going and encourage the players to take risks, as they’re shit scared. He also needs to make a call on the captaincy, it’s just not working for Maguire, give it to Dave or Ronaldo.
Hard to say without knowing exactly which players aren’t listening to him. Ralf should know though.
Ten players and Ten Hag..
You need to earn respect. Respect isn’t earned by talking but rather by actions.
Ralf has done very little to earn respect and if he keeps blaming everyone but himself openly then he will lose all respect of the board as well (if he has not already lost it).
I thought we had hired a professional Consultant and not a comedian or clown.
I can accept we are miles away from Liverpool, but at the same time other teams have given them much tougher games and we all know bloody Everton and Newcastle will give them tougher games.
Ralf has done very little to earn respect and if he keeps blaming everyone but himself openly then he will lose all respect of the board as well (if he has not already lost it).
I thought we had hired a professional Consultant and not a comedian or clown.
I can accept we are miles away from Liverpool, but at the same time other teams have given them much tougher games and we all know bloody Everton and Newcastle will give them tougher games.
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