I miss him.so much.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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I miss him.so much.
United had just been demolished 5 nil at home to Liverpool, were thoroughly and somehow more humiliatingly dismantled and toyed with by City (also at home), and were then spanked 4-1 by Watford. I think United fans can be forgiven for getting a bit ahead of themselves when Rangnick came in given the circumstances!! Besides, a shitload of fans had been waiting ages to see the club go in a completely new direction which Rangnick's CV promised. Also, isn't the essence of football in part for fans to be irrationally hopeful?! Much rather that than dull, endless realism.True, it was a bit like a counterweight insanity to the insane hype here
Nonetheless I would agree with some of the points he had, the desire to manage a big club was definitely there for example.
I don't necessarily disagree with the last point, but it was part of an overriding theme which was to basically just shit on the appointment.
I don't think you need to give hard love per say. Just a more disciplined hand to remind them that work and a thicker skin is required for titles.
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Ralf is probably shocked by how casual the players just walk up to ask the most ridiculous things. 'hey I'm injured, can I go to dubai', "you know what, I'm not feeling it, I'd like fully paid leave for the weekend', 'Can I stay in my home country after the international break'?
I think there might be some TMI but I trust Ralf. Yet another reason the current structure needs to be reworked. What was even the point of having all that United DNA on board when they are either incompetent or too inexperienced to know what isn't normal even by modern standards. Imagine well compensated footballers calling extra work oppressive.
I'll give Fletcher credit since the optics from matchdays make it seem like he's ready to help Ralf in whatever capacity it takes. Takes a good leader to know when he needs help. Phelan on the other hand was outed by Ralf for not attending trainings and on matchdays only looks good for standing nowhere, folding his arms and cracking jokes with himself. What does Phelan actually do for Ralf?.
I'll give Fletcher credit since the optics from matchdays make it seem like he's ready to help Ralf in whatever capacity it takes. Takes a good leader to know when he needs help. Phelan on the other hand was outed by Ralf for not attending trainings and on matchdays only looks good for standing nowhere, folding his arms and cracking jokes with himself. What does Phelan actually do for Ralf?.
Bless them, their delicate egos need fluffy cuddles.
I used to laugh when my dad said bring back national service but now I understand.
Ralph given more chances to youngsters than Ole did in 3 seasons.
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It always does.
Disappointed he kept Ronaldo on despite his terrible form today. I acknowledge it is not an easy decision to make, but given the character he portrays, i would expect him to make a tough decision.
late subs again also..
late subs again also..
He knows he's not staying, the players know he's not staying, no one cares, least of all the board.
Not his fault tonight. We were all over them. Missed penalty, Bar hit, bruno misses an open goal. Rashford missed a big chance.
We actually looked very good.
We actually looked very good.
Can’t really blame him for the loss today, we should have buried them with the chances we had. That said, I really can’t see much of an improvement on where we were pre-collapse.
He should be blamed for starting CR. CR needs to be used as substitute. If he can’t sort it out, he is not good clearly.
Subs way too late again and keeping an injured Sancho on was pointless. Apart from that though we should have won so he can’t be blamed.
Don’t want him as our manager past this season though but then again whoever we get will not succeed. This club is now incapable of being successful.
Don’t want him as our manager past this season though but then again whoever we get will not succeed. This club is now incapable of being successful.
Apart from DeGea that was arguably Uniteds strongest starting 11 tonight at home and up against a middle of the road championship team.
I didn't buy into the giddiness of Rangnicks appointment as Uniteds issues are more deep rooted than just a manager.
I didn't buy into the giddiness of Rangnicks appointment as Uniteds issues are more deep rooted than just a manager.
Ralf is good at building clubs and putting structures in place, but he is not a top manager it seems. I doubt we will finish top 4, which means we will hire a new manager. Hopefully, it is ETH with Ralf switching to consultancy role.
Main striker declining rapidly and bench striker Cavani declining rapidly plus not involved in most games, while Rangnick left with winter window to build midfield and find perfect striker.
Perfect enviroment for failing to any interim no matter who we appoint. Circus without safe belts continues and chances are next manager will be in need of another drastic spending. There is no end to this.
Next one in charge will be lucky to offload two or three players permanently.
Perfect enviroment for failing to any interim no matter who we appoint. Circus without safe belts continues and chances are next manager will be in need of another drastic spending. There is no end to this.
Next one in charge will be lucky to offload two or three players permanently.
That's great they did that, can we have more of that sort of attitude? Let's hope they don't lose this when they're around the first team more.
I cut managers a bit of slack for weakened cup teams where cohesion is rarely good but the was full strength at home to a championship side. It's one of our worst results in years.
I don’t understand what he can do besides run on the pitch and score the goals for our players. We absolutely dominated them which he put us in a position to do and then out players missed chance after chance, including a penalty and an open goal. He hasn’t been that great but it’s an odd one to put on him tonight
We were brilliant first half especially.
Cannot believe our misses. Nor the goal that was allowed.
But our awful misses.
Rashford especially was so wasteful.
Not Ralf's fault.
But we better be up for Burnley
Cannot believe our misses. Nor the goal that was allowed.
But our awful misses.
Rashford especially was so wasteful.
Not Ralf's fault.
But we better be up for Burnley
Not putting it on him. The point is the blaming of managers has to stop when the issues are elsewhere.
Can't blame the manager tonight, I can't really see what he got wrong.
The bigger worry is I just can only see this getting worse in the medium long-term. The players with long contracts and big money are all the ones you don't want at the club. Meanwhile the quality to do have, a big chunk will leave in the summer.
Absolutely mental the state of the club. Sheer incompetence at board level
The bigger worry is I just can only see this getting worse in the medium long-term. The players with long contracts and big money are all the ones you don't want at the club. Meanwhile the quality to do have, a big chunk will leave in the summer.
Absolutely mental the state of the club. Sheer incompetence at board level
My bad I do believe i’ve misread your post, fully agreed.
We played well. Very much on Ronaldo and other absolutely criminal misses.
Not on the manager tonight
British media will say its because he didn't pick Lingard
However what can he do when his team created a lot of chances, only scored one, Ronaldo misses a pen and Fernandes a sitter and then concedes an illegal goal?
British media will say its because he didn't pick Lingard
However what can he do when his team created a lot of chances, only scored one, Ronaldo misses a pen and Fernandes a sitter and then concedes an illegal goal?
The his team selection and tactics created multiple chances
He can’t score them himself, he did his part, the players didn’t take chances
Harsh to put it on him when our players put on the worst finishing performance by Utd since Opta began recording in 2009.
I just hope to God that the board go out and get the very best manager available come the summer. RR needs to be moved into his consultancy role ASAP. He is not a world class manager and that is exactly what we need.
Rangnick helped fixing leaking defense a bit, but then again we're now not scoring and not finishing teams off.
While I agree that this so called group of players need to react somehow, I still expect nothing from Burnley game. The amount of damage and rot looks quite out of control at the moment.
I blame Ralf for telling Bruno to hit the post against MBoro. I also blame him for letting the ref pull our pants down.
No blame on him at all. The Rashford Ronaldo substitution was an either/or to be honest and there was barely any real options on the bench. Both worked really hard but both were really wasteful.The reality is our attack was awful and we had very few options to change things up.
We got knocked out by a League 1 Leeds at OT a decade or so ago. And that performance was for more toothless than the one we had tonight. On a different night we score 4 and this discussion wouldn't even exist.
Late subs perhaps but he probably trusted the team out there to come up with the goods, only when Pogba looked absolutely spent did he get him off.
Even so, absolutely nothing you can do about that imo, set the team up right, we finally were cutting through a team who came to defend and just wasted big chance after big chance. We should have had the game won by half time, Jones and Mejbri on for 45 minutes, job done.
All of the above doesn't even take into account the joke of an equaliser they were gifted.
Even so, absolutely nothing you can do about that imo, set the team up right, we finally were cutting through a team who came to defend and just wasted big chance after big chance. We should have had the game won by half time, Jones and Mejbri on for 45 minutes, job done.
All of the above doesn't even take into account the joke of an equaliser they were gifted.
We've been complaining that we are solid but not creative.
However, tonight creativity wasn't the issue. Short of Rangnick taking the shots for our players I'm not sure what else he could be expected to have done.
As a team we are getting better, performance wise. You just have to hope the attacking talent we're spoken of having starts to do it's bit!
I'm optimistic about our play tonight. I just feel the dark cloud around the club has got to players a bit and brought some anxiety in finishing. As long as we come out of this well physically, I expect us to do well in these next few weeks and for the mood to hopefully pick up a bit. I also like how Ralf is in the press conferences and interviews. He's keeping calm, which is positive, but is also not in denial like sometimes it seemed Ole could be, bless him.
From Rangnick's press conference post match, I got my first real vibe that he's discontent with those above him in the hierarchy. His comments about Lingard were telling. It seems someone from the club told Jesse to take time off without Ralf knowing about it, therefore he misconstrued (probably via third party) that Lingard was asking for time off when he really wasn't.
From Rangnick's press conference post match, I got my first real vibe that he's discontent with those above him in the hierarchy. His comments about Lingard were telling. It seems someone from the club told Jesse to take time off without Ralf knowing about it, therefore he misconstrued (probably via third party) that Lingard was asking for time off when he really wasn't.
Despite poor opposition the team was prepared tonight really good, we created chance after chance and rolled over them. The chances were coming but we couldn't score to save our arse. In which universe is this a mistake by him or that he doesn't care? Even the subs were positive. Pogba couldn't play the whole game and the game became too open with McTominay lost there. Fred created three great chances alone in the first 10 mins on the pitch, Elanga got into chances and should have scored.We werejust unlucky.
One big task in front of Ralf now is to shift out ROnaldo thought, unfortunately it is not easy with one of the best players playing the game in the history coming to one of his old beloved clubs and with the striker situation now. If he really doesn't care we will rightfully see Cristiano on the bench where he belongs. That's one thing we can hope for..
One big task in front of Ralf now is to shift out ROnaldo thought, unfortunately it is not easy with one of the best players playing the game in the history coming to one of his old beloved clubs and with the striker situation now. If he really doesn't care we will rightfully see Cristiano on the bench where he belongs. That's one thing we can hope for..
Yeah, some of the hysterics about tonight’s performance are a bit weird. We got humiliated in the end, and it was a result that means we will likely finish without silverware again, but we played really well overall.
Sometimes you will dominate a football match, have been in near complete control throughout, yet not win the match. That’s football: scoring is hard, finishing is high variance, and you can get very (un)lucky.
As much as I feel sick at having lost on penalties tonight, that was some of the most promising football we have played in months and looked a good omen for how we should play against some of the bottom half sides in our upcoming fixtures. It’s generally unbelievable we are sitting here out of the FA Cup tonight given how we played. We win that game 19 times out of 20 playing like that.
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