Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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We have been bit generous in giving away big contracts to our players which they don't possibly deserve but anybody who thinks Liverpool pay their players peanuts is talking nonsense as well infact you just have to check their official ac statements to realise that . No way their top players are earning 100-150 k a week and still their wage bill was higher than United according to their last published report.

I thought it was higher due to performance related bonuses. Something we rarely have to give out :lol:
 
Yeah. Our contracts smell of desperation. We have players like Lingard and Jones on £150k a week, the players on that much at other clubs are usually integral to their teams and can fetch a hefty sum if ever they are sold. I think at Liverpool Mane, Robertson, Ox are in the £100k to £150k range

I agree with the general sentiment that we handle contracts insanely badly. However, Lingard is on 100k a week and Jones 100k a week.
 
I think we put ourselves in a tricky situation now. Lost a striker/winger, midfielder loaned out, some players out of contract in the summer. On top, we are a bit in a shitty form. One can hope that this will fire us up but my hope is not big

Keep hearing people say this. We aren't playing champagne football but we're hardly in that poor form having just beat West Ham, a top four rival.
 
I thought it was higher due to performance related bonuses. Something we rarely have to give out :lol:
There wage bill was almost 50 m ahead of United in year 2020 even accounting for Performance bonus for their title win it doesn't exactly paint them as Club who pay their players peanuts like some here like to believe they are one of the biggest spenders when it comes to wages in Epl .
 
The 'General Attitude' thread is locked, but...
"Three weeks ago Jesse was very clear he did not want to leave" said Rangnick. "Then he changed his mind. He wanted to leave, to get game-time for his future and the World Cup. And I said to him if he finds a club he would like to play for I would let him go and allow him to leave. That did not happen so now Jesse has asked me and the club if we could give him some days off just to clear up his mind, so he is not available for selection."

"Edi contacted me at the weekend and asked to stay in Uruguay for some extra days, so he will also not be available"

Does any other team do this?

Couldn't decide between the Solskjaer Legacy thread or this one. I think it comes from the culture allowed to develop and fester under Ole, but Rangnick is the one who authorised it...so...
 
With Ralf losing 4-5 players in january, one would assume Ralf is going to have to promote a few of the young players on a more permanent basis to the first team. We already know he's enamored with Elanga.

A lot of talk about Hannibal and Shoretire but are those two the best of the lot? We're certainly a bit short to fight in 3 comps.
 
Cavani wouldnt have played anyway due to jet lag but Lingard one is complete bs. No wonder he never fulfilled his talent.
 
Cavani is understandable and surprised it's even getting a mention. Lingard is no surprise. Sounds like Ralf wasn't arsed whether he was still in the squad or not.

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Can't disagree there. Ronaldo was back early after his break to train over the weekend too.
 
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Does any other team do this?

Couldn't decide between the Solskjaer Legacy thread or this one. I think it comes from the culture allowed to develop and fester under Ole, but Rangnick is the one who authorised it...so...
These are none issues, Cavani was never going to make it in time to be part of the squad, nothing wrong with giving him some time with his family.
Jesse had his heart set on leaving in order to give him a better chance of being in the World Cup side, same with Donny. It's understandable that he would need a few days for him to get his head straight and focused into staying with us. Both decisions are sensible
 


I think Ralf is going to endear himself to the younger players
 


I think Ralf is going to endear himself to the younger players

True. Behaviour like that is rightly going to endear those two to Ralf as well. The last thing we need is players who think they are entitled to a career at United.
 
These are none issues, Cavani was never going to make it in time to be part of the squad, nothing wrong with giving him some time with his family.
Jesse had his heart set on leaving in order to give him a better chance of being in the World Cup side, same with Donny. It's understandable that he would need a few days for him to get his head straight and focused into staying with us. Both decisions are sensible

Its fans making a big deal out of nothing really.

Giving Cavani time off when we are playing a FA cup game in which he wouldn't have started anyway? What is so bad in that?

Lingard given time off, who cares? He is only going to be used as a last resort anyway.
 
These are none issues, Cavani was never going to make it in time to be part of the squad, nothing wrong with giving him some time with his family.
Jesse had his heart set on leaving in order to give him a better chance of being in the World Cup side, same with Donny. It's understandable that he would need a few days for him to get his head straight and focused into staying with us. Both decisions are sensible
I don't think it's understandable to need two days off to play a football match because you didn't get to switch teams until 4 months later. Unless there's something else going on too. I know he's had mental health issues, and I don't want to belittle that. But I don't think a normal, mentally healthy person would need two days off.
 
Lingard given time off, who cares? He is only going to be used as a last resort anyway.
Looks like Rangnick doesn't, sounded a bit like "Whatever Jesse, it's not like you would be playing anyways"
 
These are none issues, Cavani was never going to make it in time to be part of the squad, nothing wrong with giving him some time with his family.
Jesse had his heart set on leaving in order to give him a better chance of being in the World Cup side, same with Donny. It's understandable that he would need a few days for him to get his head straight and focused into staying with us. Both decisions are sensible
Hasn’t he spent the last two weeks dicking around with Rashford in Dubai?
 
Looks like Rangnick doesn't, sounded a bit like "Whatever Jesse, it's not like you would be playing anyways"

The fans care more than Ralf. Who cares about Lingard, he is an average player that will get about 50 mins max till the end of the season.

Not a big miss for the FA cup game.
 
I don't think it's understandable to need two days off to play a football match because you didn't get to switch teams until 4 months later. Unless there's something else going on too. I know he's had mental health issues, and I don't want to belittle that. But I don't think a normal, mentally healthy person would need two days off.
It really is, as much as he is a professional player, he is also human. He. probably was mentally ready for a different challenge, trying to get into the England set up. He is likely to miss out on the World Cup if he continues not to play.
Regardless if he was on holiday in Dubai. It's happened before with other players who didn't get a move and the manager gives them time off. It really isn't a big deal
 
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It really is, as much as he is a professional player, he is also human. He. probably was mentally ready for a different challenge, trying to get into the England set up. He is likely to miss out on the World Cup if he continues not to play.
Regardless if he was on holiday in Dubai. It's happened before with other players who didn't get a move and the manager gives them time off. It really isn't a big deal
Well I'm sorry but you saying "it really is" has no effect on my opinion. Yes, he's human, humans are tough. How often does the average person take two days off work because they didn't get the position at the new job they applied for? Mentally ready, what does that even mean? Is that some sort of psychological condition that requires treatment? Yeah, he'd rather play elsewhere, so what? Most athletes in the US don't play in the team or city they want to, they get on fine.
 
Well I'm sorry but you saying "it really is" has no effect on my opinion. Yes, he's human, humans are tough. How often does the average person take two days off work because they didn't get the position at the new job they applied for? Mentally ready, what does that even mean? Is that some sort of psychological condition that requires treatment? Yeah, he'd rather play elsewhere, so what? Most athletes in the US don't play in the team or city they want to, they get on fine.

Just because they don't doesn't mean they shouldn't be given that break to deal with disappointments.
 
Well I'm sorry but you saying "it really is" has no effect on my opinion. Yes, he's human, humans are tough. How often does the average person take two days off work because they didn't get the position at the new job they applied for? Mentally ready, what does that even mean? Is that some sort of psychological condition that requires treatment? Yeah, he'd rather play elsewhere, so what? Most athletes in the US don't play in the team or city they want to, they get on fine.

As much as humans can be tough doesn't mean they can't be affected mentally, reducing their productivity.
Yes an average person will likely get on with the job if say he/she was overlooked for a promotion, but it can affect the effort they would normally put in.
In Jesse's case giving time off to sort himself out and get focused, especially when it he hasn't been that important for us, is the right thing to do.
Remember Sancho, him not getting his move affected his performances which only hurt Dortmund, Kane was similar for spurs this season.
 


Video speaks for itself. Thought it was quite interesting. Some German efficiency on the ink.
 
Just because they don't doesn't mean they shouldn't be given that break to deal with disappointments.
We should all have our needs taken care of without having to work, but life isn't what it should be.
 
Hasn’t he spent the last two weeks dicking around with Rashford in Dubai?
First thing i thought. A few weeks ago tells the manager he doesnt want to leave, changes his mind (in the transfer window), then chills in Dubai. Comes back and asks for the weekend off. Shambles
 
In the sense that the title says what's in the video :lol:
It's merely an analysis of Nagelsmann's Bayern though, not so much to do with Rangnick's tactical philosophy. Rangnick's role here is to provide some comment and also to act like the opponent's manager.
 
IMO that's quite an ignorant attitude
What does "should" mean? We should all be given time to deal with disappointment but we shouldn't all be fed? How do you decide that?

Okay, let me know what else "should be" according to you, I'm curious.
 
What does "should" mean? We should all be given time to deal with disappointment but we shouldn't all be fed? How do you decide that?

Okay, let me know what else "should be" according to you, I'm curious.

It's not about should or should not. It's just good leadership to give somebody time off when they have been disappointed, especially if you don't even need their service currently. You sound like the prototype baby boomer right now.
 
Wow its a recent interview. Actually nice and a but weird to see two current managers of two different top teams side by side talking tactics.
It's from last year when Rangnick was unemployed. The show was "DAZN Decoded" in September 2021.
 
We need a manager to whip the players into shape. Not a "guide. The 4222 was there to get our defensive solidarity back first and you can see the logic behind it. He's quite humble enough to admit it needed revising and reverted to a flat 433.

This type of Fergie style management just does not work with young players these days. The hard love management simply wouldn't work, look at Mou, who is the closest to Fergie in that regard in the modern game. Everywhere he goes he somehow p*sses of the players.

You need a guide, whilst being firm. Players want to feel loved, otherwise they'll just go elsewhere to play.
 
First thing i thought. A few weeks ago tells the manager he doesnt want to leave, changes his mind (in the transfer window), then chills in Dubai. Comes back and asks for the weekend off. Shambles

He's a knob. He's holding out for a signing on fee at the end of the summer. If guy was dead set on securing a move this January, he wouldn't have been in Dubai.

Truly one of the worst academy players we've ever had. The fact that he's got so many appearances for us should volumes about how poor the club has been.
 
This type of Fergie style management just does not work with young players these days. The hard love management simply wouldn't work, look at Mou, who is the closest to Fergie in that regard in the modern game. Everywhere he goes he somehow p*sses of the players.

You need a guide, whilst being firm. Players want to feel loved, otherwise they'll just go elsewhere to play.
Not wanting to lecture United fans on SAF, but I don't think this gives the full picture of his man management, nor does it have anything to do with "young players these days". Ferguson's great quality (or, a fundamental one of his many qualities) was that besides demanding top performances of his players, he also was able to give them full confidence in themselves that they were up to delivering them. That latter part is often left out. He protected and had his players backs, too, and he didn't demand things that he wasn't able to get them to deliver. That's a massive quality. The manager most similar in that regard is Klopp, not Mourinho.
 
He's a knob. He's holding out for a signing on fee at the end of the summer. If guy was dead set on securing a move this January, he wouldn't have been in Dubai.

Truly one of the worst academy players we've ever had. The fact that he's got so many appearances for us should volumes about how poor the club has been.
He's been training in Dubai, alongside Rashford.

He has agents to deal with securing moves away.

The sheer dislike for our own players on this forum never ceases to amaze me.


 
He's been training in Dubai, alongside Rashford.

He has agents to deal with securing moves away.

The sheer dislike for our own players on this forum never ceases to amaze me.


No hate but why is he drinking two bottled water at the same time like that?
 
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