The state of some of you. Unless Rangnick is carrying a pocket black hole and is using it do dilate time around Old Trafford, it's literally impossible to make changes in a week, or even a month. Klopp's first season at Liverpool was unimpressive. His players were unprepared, both physically and tactically, for his style. I guess according to this logic he was a terrible choice and Liverpool should have stuck with Brendan Rodgers? Get it together... Christ.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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He shouldn't. Also had terrible linkup play till he was moved to the left. There's no point playing a striker with poor linkup in a 4222. I'd honestly go back to 433 when everyone is healthy. If we don't it can't be Rashford starting.
I read Gabby Agbonlahor said on ShoutSport we are no different under Rangnik and is yet to be impressed... yet only recently I also heard him talking about how managers should be getting more time...
I shouldn't be shocked anymore at how these ex footballers keep bagging jobs where they get paid to speak, but I constantly am.
I shouldn't be shocked anymore at how these ex footballers keep bagging jobs where they get paid to speak, but I constantly am.
Don't take it out on them, it's their job, problem is some of our fans take after this foolishness. Rangnick is an interim. He is to be judged on one standard and one standard alone. Stopping the bleeding started by his predecessor. We're higher on the table, stopped shipping goals and may actually finish in a CL spot. He has improved us, even his style of play is starting to show in patches. Whether his football clicks or not within the timeframe is irrelevant because he won't be here in 6 months. Some proper thick individuals talking long term goals about a freaking interim manager. It's a situation the club can't lose because there's quite frankly nothing to lose. Anything we gain in trophies, CL qualification, improved play is a bonus when talking interims.
And have an idea how to play football under a proper structure of the team.
I didn't see the game but I'd like to think that, contrary to what Rangnick claims, all Man United players in the match day squad were "physically present".
Until Dec 30, we have relatively easy fixtures (6 games) and according to me, 1 draw or 1 loss is acceptable due to the busy period.
15/18 points means he’s doing good.
West ham play arsenal next, they don’t win means we are stepping into top 4 with a win against brentford
15/18 points means he’s doing good.
West ham play arsenal next, they don’t win means we are stepping into top 4 with a win against brentford
Barely two weeks in and people are quickly saying how poor this managers tactics are and that it looks like ole is still here.
Ralf is a complete breath of fresh air but he cannot work miracles, to me it looks like he’s aged a year already and he’s only been here for three weeks.
There are so many deep rooted issues with this team, and it stinks that McKenna and phelan (who nobody can actually tell me what he exactly does) are still here is baffling.
I’m a realist and if ralf finishes 7th I do not care if he does better it’ll be a fantastic job done by him. I back this manager ten times over than these players who have thrown managers under the bus time and time again.
Total change is needed from top to bottom and that takes time, hope he gets rid of these 200k plus a week players and gives them to Eddie Howe who I think has been given a poisoned chalice at Newcastle. Give me a player that fits into a system on 50k a week striving to get to 100k any day, rather than these players on massive wages.
I’m totally on board with ralf, I’m all in.
Ralf is a complete breath of fresh air but he cannot work miracles, to me it looks like he’s aged a year already and he’s only been here for three weeks.
There are so many deep rooted issues with this team, and it stinks that McKenna and phelan (who nobody can actually tell me what he exactly does) are still here is baffling.
I’m a realist and if ralf finishes 7th I do not care if he does better it’ll be a fantastic job done by him. I back this manager ten times over than these players who have thrown managers under the bus time and time again.
Total change is needed from top to bottom and that takes time, hope he gets rid of these 200k plus a week players and gives them to Eddie Howe who I think has been given a poisoned chalice at Newcastle. Give me a player that fits into a system on 50k a week striving to get to 100k any day, rather than these players on massive wages.
I’m totally on board with ralf, I’m all in.
Agree. My impression is a lot of posts and pundits are agruing that progress has allready been made. Thats why I wrote what I wrote.
On that note, you could say that Ole’s two first games had much clearer sign of progress than what we have seen now.
With that said, we now have about 10 games where we should get good results. Lets hope a new play system emerges, and that will comme good for us when we play the top teams in january.
The criticisms of Ralf are very strange indeed. Very strange.
Did he, or did he not, at the very beginning of joining the club, expressedly state, in public, that (1) this was a very unfortunate period in which to attempt to implement his vision, and (2) that such an implementation of his vision would necessarily take time? He did, didn't he?
That's why It's completely and utterly baffling when sporadic individuals completely contradict his statements and then judge him on the basis of a period of time in which he himself said it wouldn't be implemented by.
Did he, or did he not, at the very beginning of joining the club, expressedly state, in public, that (1) this was a very unfortunate period in which to attempt to implement his vision, and (2) that such an implementation of his vision would necessarily take time? He did, didn't he?
That's why It's completely and utterly baffling when sporadic individuals completely contradict his statements and then judge him on the basis of a period of time in which he himself said it wouldn't be implemented by.
I think if he's going to Manage the team long term, he's 100% going to have to get a lot of younger players in who'll accept the work ethic he's going to demand from the team. I don't believe our established stars are going to be crazy about having their work ethic coming up as an issue every week. Jose and Ole both stated the squad weren't fit enough and despite 5 years between them to sort it they never really did. Or maybe it's an excuse? Who knows.
Ole's first 2 games are irrelevant right now. Maybe we can play parallels when we get an actual permanent manager. All that's relevant right now are his last few games. The progress in our playstyle is already there. They are trying actual passing combinations and patterned passing. It's failing but the attempts are evident. The attempts however will be helpful when we get an actual permanent man for the role so the players have a clue.
Hopefully we are witnessing the demise of the football primadonna. They can all go to PSG as far as I'm concerned and play powder puff football, have their grapes peeled for them and their tears wiped up when their hair goes out of place.
I would much rather have players who put in a full 90 minute shift and don't let their foot off the pedal
If they lack the real desire to play for United then January is the month
I would much rather have players who put in a full 90 minute shift and don't let their foot off the pedal
If they lack the real desire to play for United then January is the month
I think you are right.
It's clear that RR has studied what he has at United in detail. You can also see that he gets an in depth understanding of the opposition from his interviews. I'm sure he gave the last Carrick side the nod over a couple of matches to give it a chance to perform.
Some time in the next few weeks we will see his side emerge. For sure there needs to be some changes in personnel and attitude
His total lack of physical presence and body language infuriates me. It has for years.
Ahh the new scapegoat I see
Anyway, Ralf should stay as interim as planned and we get in Pochettino and hopefully he can bring Verrati with him as well. Ralf is doing a great job so far changing the footballing philosophy these players has known the past few years. It will take some time for it to fully integrate and hopefully the result will be not having our playing fall back to the bad habits we have seen under ole, where we had no pattern of play or organizatio.
Analyst FC here we go!
He's trash!
this is why he never had a top job!
Any interim who gets us results I cannot complain too much
this is why he never had a top job!
Any interim who gets us results I cannot complain too much
The black hole would slow our time compared to the outside world meaning less time to train etc.
there is always one!How so? I mean what have you seen so far?Ahh the new scapegoat I see
Anyway, Ralf should stay as interim as planned and we get in Pochettino and hopefully he can bring Verrati with him as well. Ralf is doing a great job so far changing the footballing philosophy these players has known the past few years. It will take some time for it to fully integrate and hopefully the result will be not having our playing fall back to the bad habits we have seen under ole, where we had no pattern of play or organizatio.
He's gotten an extra week to coach. That is if the training ground re-opens.
Handled that Martial question very professionally and in a SAF-like manner.
Man is all business.
Man is all business.
He's more than a coach. He's been brought in to change things at the club, especially on the footballing side of things. It's going to take a while...not 3 games.
Yup. I was very impressed.
I think Ralf must look at some of Utd's squad and think "What do you contribute on matchday?". He will want to streamline the squad, getting rid of the high earning older players who never play. I know it is early days but I hope he stays in charge for a while and introduces some young eager players into the dressing room. I would love to be a fly on the wall at Utd's training sessions and witness the lazier players getting pushed to their limits.
I don't know, I like the idea of him as an interim coach + then pushing him upstairs to still have a decent say in sorting the wider issues out. In terms of flat-out coaching and having a clear philosophy, he seems great. He seems like a football rainman, which is exactly what this club has needed for a while. But as an actual manager to win trophies, does he have that to his game? Probably not. Which is why it seems all his spiritual successors: Klopp/Tuchel/Nagelsmann - have all been more succesful at the highest level.
Very nice read, thanks.
I'd give him two years just for the sake of getting rid of those masssive wages primadonas. Really tired of watching those playing and enduring their circus.
That's betterAhh the new scapegoat I see
Anyway, Ralf should stay as interim as planned and we get inPochettinoTen Hag and hopefully he can bring Verrati with him as well. Ralf is doing a great job so far changing the footballing philosophy these players has known the past few years. It will take some time for it to fully integrate and hopefully the result will be not having our playing fall back to the bad habits we have seen under ole, where we had no pattern of play or organizatio.
Yes I think a lot of younger, not all by any means, ‘people’ have completely unrealistic expectations and entitlement in football and in life. Success is a given, has to be instant and concentration spans are less than five minutes and a lot can’t make it to the end of this post let alone read an entire book.
This is hilarious considering Ole's bad performances were blamed on the toxicity left behind by Mourinho and the negative impact Jose had on our team (lack of fitness, park the bus play style, bad transfers). Can't have it both ways.
For 3 years. Getting over signing Lukaku and Sanchez took a 3 year rebuild apparently since they're the only worthwhile Mourinho signing that Ole sold.
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Don't know but the "weird cult of Ole-inners" never stopped blaming God and the world on the utter dross Ole served up for three years. Wonder if they will show the same patience with Ralf or the next permanent manager.
You must be joking? They have already started it.
Is everyone either an Ole-inner or Ole-outer by definition, or are these fringe groups few of us would identify with?
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