Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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He is, along with McKenna. I can't see Rangnick bringing many more of his own people in now.
As always, every manager needs time. Like previous managers. He needs to be given support and lets hope that he can take the team further in the development.
So a course of Creatine and lifting weights is the answer?
Keeping the same side is as much to do with it being an easy short-hand way of understanding he strengths and limitations that would take longer had he chopped and changed in the two league games so far. Definitely don't think it's necessarily reflective of the line-up we'll see over the longer term this season.
Of little relevance I know but I wonder who pays for that?
I do think these comments aren't just soundbites to get the fans onside, I think it's part of his core philosophy and the penny has finally dropped for his superiors in the hierarchy.
If the club keeps trying to bend over backwards for lots of players making diva demands, it loses its own integrity and ultimately fails to please anyone.
The club then loses its ability to genuinely make provision for exceptional cases or situations, something I think we've always done quite well, quietly resolving potential issues.
It's for the good of everyone, except the agents. Some of them won't like it at all.
We've given managers and even staff plenty of time over the years. It's not really the modern Manchester United way.
We'll have the German mad scientists working with the players. Hopefully see some amazing results soon!
I can't fault the effort of Fred, McTom, Telles, Dalot, Sancho, Bruno, and to certain extent a 36 y.o. Ronaldo. Both CBs are not supposed to run around also.
I don't see how much more "work" RR wants them to put. It's all down to poor passings.
I don't see how much more "work" RR wants them to put. It's all down to poor passings.
As others have pointed out; more than likely, it’s stamina.
Need a bit of patience people. It wasn't going to change overnight.
Plus injuries to certain players and the succession of games will hinder choice for Ralf.
Think we will see changes in the new year, when things relax a little. Also think we will see a few youngsters get game time. Them playing in the CL game probably meant nongame time today.
I think each game Ralf is learning the who wills and the who wonts. However it will take a while. So to use Pogba as an example of Ralf is going to use him then it's at least another 3/4 weeks before he can assess him. This will disrupt things. So no quick wins methinks. Just patience and time
Plus injuries to certain players and the succession of games will hinder choice for Ralf.
Think we will see changes in the new year, when things relax a little. Also think we will see a few youngsters get game time. Them playing in the CL game probably meant nongame time today.
I think each game Ralf is learning the who wills and the who wonts. However it will take a while. So to use Pogba as an example of Ralf is going to use him then it's at least another 3/4 weeks before he can assess him. This will disrupt things. So no quick wins methinks. Just patience and time
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Its like watching a beautiful car being built.
We are going to be purring.
But it will take time.
Keep watching and Believe lads.
We are going to be purring.
But it will take time.
Keep watching and Believe lads.
We do, but they still get sacked if results are particularly bad. We sacked a manager after 7 months previously. Thats only a month longer than Ralfs interim contract.
As interim manager, the instant impact he can make with what he currently has is important.
I am still pining for the return of Van Gaal and Mike Smalling. Louis van Gaal's army!
So true.
I haven't checked but if I remember correctly, when Tuchel first came in, he made sure they don't concede much which is what RR has said is his first major goal.
Tuchel's Chelsea got better with time and managed to win the Champions League but it didn't happen overnight.
Let's hope he gets us moving like a proper team by mid-Feb.
Tuchel's Chelsea got better with time and managed to win the Champions League but it didn't happen overnight.
Let's hope he gets us moving like a proper team by mid-Feb.
Please tell me you're not implying Ralf can get sacked or should be assessed like a permanent long term manager. What is with this eagerness to apply unrealistic standards to his tenure? He's here for 6 months and that's it. He has won 2 games and drawn one. We're higher on the table, that's the only immediate impact he needs to make. We have also only conceded 1 in 3 matches so that bleeding has been stemmed for now. If this was Ole his twat brigade would be out in full force comparing his "unbeaten" win rate to Klopp's first 3 games.
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Just in case he comes across a drunk Greek guy.
More verticality means more running.
More pressing means more running.
More of them combined means less rest time on and off the ball.
The physicality issue is stamina. More sprint training intervals. Things like 10x90 metres all out sprints, increasing the effort level from 70% to max near the end.
Same kind of work done in other sports like NFL, NBA, etc.
More pressing means more running.
More of them combined means less rest time on and off the ball.
The physicality issue is stamina. More sprint training intervals. Things like 10x90 metres all out sprints, increasing the effort level from 70% to max near the end.
Same kind of work done in other sports like NFL, NBA, etc.
Many of us gave Ole at least a year even when coaching issues started to be come immediately clear, so its very very strange seeing some negativity so quickly. I was excited at Palace too at least the 1st half but look at the context of his job, hes taking over in the worst period of football in the world and his system is completely foreign to both the clubs ethos and the players, who lets be honest, haven't really been training properly at all for a long time. Even as far back as Mourinho and LVG.
Its not like he has come and been positive either hes clearly not happy that's a good sign.
Its not like he has come and been positive either hes clearly not happy that's a good sign.
This fanbase needs therapy. How is this thread 10+ new pages everyday based on 3 games? 
We've had 3 years of Ole and now a few weeks of Rangnick, there just isn't enough to talk about to generate this many pages. He's here to steady the ship for the next person. That's it.
We've had 3 years of Ole and now a few weeks of Rangnick, there just isn't enough to talk about to generate this many pages. He's here to steady the ship for the next person. That's it.
It was a win against Norwich, but there was nothing pretty about it. The Professor is still trying to teach control to the players. It is going to be a bumpy ride. The end result will be something good, and the permanent manager will be able to make full use of his work next season.
True. It’s now just working on it. Like it wasn’t before
Yes, watched it. It was terrible. Just like today. Defensively ok? We where lucky we didn’t get stuffed. De Gea and a penalty is what saved us.. I’m reading so much shit on here. About Ole, Rangnick, our coaches and so on.. Players need to step up. End of.
I'm sure you feel confused on a daily basis.
Today, the performance is so bad. But it’s not a regression. Ralf now has the firsthand experience with so-called EPL minions who can put on a wonderfully played physical and direct game. Hope this can let him find a way to play against Brentford next. Almost all EPL teams can match or exceed our intensity. This is what we struggle a lot in the past.
You raise an interesting point. Who was preparing the PL team and who was preparing the CL team?
Rangnick already said his focus for now is to stop us conceding more goals and establish more control over games, gegenpress isn’t going to come overnight with the packed schedule, when you have a game every 3 days it’s all about recovery and preparation, especially when the weather this time of the year tends to produce drab, laboured performance. All of the ‘big 3K’ scrapped to win at home with pens.
We didn’t play well, but we got a win and a clean sheet away from home. Take it and move on for now, you have to walk before you can run.
We didn’t play well, but we got a win and a clean sheet away from home. Take it and move on for now, you have to walk before you can run.
2 clean sheets at least
Good one
You hit the nail on the head.
There are those on here who think we should appoint Paul Daniels
That's not his decision to make and any way you are taking his comments out of context .
I think that's our mantra for the past 10 years incl the tail-end of Fergie's reign.
Agreed. Also, a LOT of sideways and backwards passing when that's something RR has clearly said he doesn't like. I wonder whether the priority on improving defence has led RR to temporarily tell the team not to worry about pressing etc? Maybe the message is to just stop conceding first, get defensively solid and then we'll work on the rest?
Two clean sheets in a row when we've been conceding left right and center is nothing to turn our nose up at. Defensive solidity should in theory give us a good foundation to build on. For the attacking quartet, it will be a question now of whether Rangnick has the stones to drop stars when they are underperforming. There needs to be genuine competition for places, and no one should be immune from that.
We actually started the game with pressing but dropped off to a deep counter at some point. Can't tell if they were exhausted or it was a tactical response to our wayward passing that made them opt for a setup the players were more familiar with. Ronaldo was terrible but Bruno and Rashford so far seem more suited to direct football. If this continues Rangnick might want to avoid playing them together or even at all.
Bruno just keeps forcing very very low percentage passes and the less said about Rashford's interplay the better. This is something we should have ironed out years ago when he broke into the first team but we never had the chance thanks to managers whose teams aren't the most possession oriented.
Bruno just keeps forcing very very low percentage passes and the less said about Rashford's interplay the better. This is something we should have ironed out years ago when he broke into the first team but we never had the chance thanks to managers whose teams aren't the most possession oriented.
I'm not sure how solid they were defensively. A more clinical team might have punished them a few times. Signs of improvement to be sure, but a lonnng way to go.
We simply can't press with that front two.
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It isn't just about pressing but their passing and link-up play was very poor. Between them, they failed to control the ball 11 times. It was all very similar if we still had a certain Belgian playing up front.
Of course, you also have Bruno who had around 60% pass completion.
I've said it before but our lack of control is due to our most recognized footballers.
Against Brentford, he should bench Rashord, Ronaldo, and Fernandes and play Sancho, Greenwood, and Donny in those positions.
Ralf is not here to save the season or win any title, he is no fixer able to deliver quick results. He is here to inititate a mentality change, give clear structure and build the foundation so Manchester United can be successful again for the next 10 years.
United was dreadful for most periods of the last years. Now there is finally someone with a clear mandate to rebuild the whole thing. Why is he judged by game results.
United was dreadful for most periods of the last years. Now there is finally someone with a clear mandate to rebuild the whole thing. Why is he judged by game results.
Isnt it obvious? Some people think Ralf failing can make Ole look better, Ole, the guy who built the squad they're calling shit on a stick. The one we gave 3 years and 500m to build something and couldn't replace a single one of the central midfielders from his predecessor. Even his own signings like Ronaldo are blamed to excuse him.
Never seen these type of expectations being put on a guy that's expected to be on the job for only 6 months with barely any time to implement anything or even buy anyone. He's not even the real replacement. What's there to judge? His ability to take over midseason for our next manager sacking?
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