It's a disgrace to be honest, regardless of the manager or tactics. What has happened to the pride of playing for Manchester United? This has to be the biggest bunch of wet blankets we've ever assembled in a United team. This lot would just stand there and watch their girlfriend fool around with another guy in front of them and look on passively.
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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Yes, he seems to have misheard him.
I agree with this. I can't understand what the feck is McKenna is doing? He should have packed his bags with Carrick and Ole. We have heard stories of how players don't rate his coaching style. He should have been gone.
3 years of "vibes and work your magic lads" will be hard to undo. These players do not feel threatened because we had a spineless manager, so they had no reason to work hard. Hopefully now that begins to change over time because we desperately need to get these "lads" in shape. No more passengers and players just happy to be here. Every player must fear coming back to the dressing room after that performance and every player must fear for their place. Too much coddling and pandering has left this football club in the dirt.
I am not convinced that he is a long theme solution as manager. We have been lucky against Crystal Palace and Norwich, where we should be dominating the match.
Umm, obviously he is not. He's just an interim. Ten Hag should be our target.
We dominated Palace and should have been 3-0 up at half time.
Doesn't help that he was appointed two days before the match against Palace and in the beginning of a very intense period of a lot matches in a short time frame. If our board wouldn't be so stupid, I'd say that it was a risk they were willing to take, probably they just didn't think about it. Let's see how we're doing when the dust settles in January and we can take up regular training again, instead of trying to balance training with fitness while attempting to survive and improve tactically during this period. I know that the years after Fergie has made this place lose patience quick and change their minds several times during a match but I'd calm down a bit before getting the #RalfRaus going. It's a bit embarrassing to read some the "I don't like this one bit!" shite.
Psssst he's the interim manger..
He's hardly been here long enough to be judged. Let's give him a bit of time shall we. Been a wank game but got the three points. Now let's see how this develops the next couple of months.
Thought Armas was his assistant
Well, we've still got the weird cult of Mou, so don't hold your breath.
Yeah but can’t we play him into form for 60 mins and then sub him. Rashfprd started playing better but Bruno was terrible throughout.
Yes that's why he's called an interim manager.
Ralf needs players who will run as much or more than the opposition. Our squad isn't fit enough to play at this tempo for 90 minutes, under Ole we ran less than any top team. And while they're trying to adopt this new style, they're reverting to their old ways fairly often on offense.
Ralf seems to be an expert scout, and of course he must have great people in his scouting network. If he can find those players like Mane and Kimmich for us we'll be flying high in 3 years.
Running is the future of football, it's not going away, we need to get with the times, whether it's under Ralf or someone else. Much of our squad lack the attributes to excel in this style; Matic, Martial, Maguire, Mata (all the M's basically), Shaw and AWB will need to adapt or move on. AWB has the engine, so there's hope for him. Ralf isn't asking for fancy triangles, there's hope that AWB can become good enough with the ball with the right training.
I'm especially interested in the the eye tracking exercises Ralf uses. It seems to me that you need to break things down into small pieces to train players properly, so you can exactly show a player what to look for and when. Breaking the game down into small piece and training one element 100 times in 10 minutes will be much more effective than scrimmaging. Just like a fighter works on different sections of their technique at different times and doesn't just spar.
Ralf seems to be an expert scout, and of course he must have great people in his scouting network. If he can find those players like Mane and Kimmich for us we'll be flying high in 3 years.
Running is the future of football, it's not going away, we need to get with the times, whether it's under Ralf or someone else. Much of our squad lack the attributes to excel in this style; Matic, Martial, Maguire, Mata (all the M's basically), Shaw and AWB will need to adapt or move on. AWB has the engine, so there's hope for him. Ralf isn't asking for fancy triangles, there's hope that AWB can become good enough with the ball with the right training.
I'm especially interested in the the eye tracking exercises Ralf uses. It seems to me that you need to break things down into small pieces to train players properly, so you can exactly show a player what to look for and when. Breaking the game down into small piece and training one element 100 times in 10 minutes will be much more effective than scrimmaging. Just like a fighter works on different sections of their technique at different times and doesn't just spar.
Touched a nerve there I see!
Man Utd are back winning games and it’s GREAT!
Lest we forget - a few weeks ago this team was getting thrashed by Watford after 3 years of Ole’s pathetic ‘non-tactics’ coaching.
The next side Utd play got a 3-3 draw with Liverpool so won’t be a pushover, but another win would be great.
It might be the other way round - imposter syndrome. That's where you actually are good enough to perform that role but believe you're not and react accordingly.
From what I've read about RR I wouldn't be surprised if we make advances in sport psychology.
I saw very positive signs against Palace. Today not so much but that's expected. Big changes won't happen overnight. It's blatantly obvious this group has been horribly coached and it's going to take time before things click. The dilemma however is that we have no time. We've got so many games coming up and wins are required to keep the top 4 hopes alive. I hope we can make it but wouldn't be surprised if we don't.
It’ll take awhile to get out of the bad habits and lethargic play that we’ve had. I reckon around February we will see the team have a style of play
Couldn't give a shit if you're not taking me seriously for mixing up him being a manager or the manager of sports developments for a midtable team over there in mother Russia. Fact is, this guy talks a very good game, but he's got basically nothing to show for in results and throphies compared to the top managers in the world, and he's been around for a long time. The over the top-praise over two lucky wins and mediocre performances is just embarrasing.
Should have signed Usain Bolt when we had the chance.
I'm glad there's people in here that has a clear view of the situation.
People already coming out with kneejerk reactions regarding Ralf and the squad, thinking we'd instantly be the best team in the world. Klopp finished 8th in his first season in charge under Liverpool, I couldn't imagine the comments here if he did that at United instead.
Dennis!!
I raised this after his first interview that I was worried he was coming alone and working with the coaches here.
The players absolutely deserve criticism and should not be absolved of blame. The attitude from some of them is shocking in terms of how careless they are on the ball. Bruno and Rashford today in particular, but they're obviously not the only ones. But at the end of the day, this squad has been completely neglected when it comes to top-level coaching. We've been under-coached for years. Not just under Ole, but with Jose too. That shit catches up with you, and it's quite insidious. When the standards have been allowed to drop for so long, this is what you get. It's going to take a long time to turn this around, unfortunately.
We've been atrophying as a team, and we've almost accepted this drop in quality due to incompetence from the top. We've picked the wrong managers time after time and then stuck with them for far too long.
ummm wonder how long it'll be before the weird cult of Ole-outers stop blaming every bad performance under Rangnick and the next permanent manager on Ole ...
they are already here today.
We haven't got the next permanent manager yet so no ones doing that. And we can blame ole on short term performances to an extent because he was the guy in charge for the last 3 years, but what's done is done. I think we should all drop this rift thing and focus on the team now.
Bruno gave the ball away far too quickly. This is probably because of Ralf's quick attacking philosophy. Sancho was a bit better because he looks comfortable carrying the ball. Rashford was probably the wrong selection for this game because he needs space to run in behind and Norwich defended deep.
Anyway, a win is a win no matter how ugly it was and another clean sheet. Players might be a little tired from the new training regime and it might take a few weeks before they are on top of things.
Anyway, a win is a win no matter how ugly it was and another clean sheet. Players might be a little tired from the new training regime and it might take a few weeks before they are on top of things.
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I'm confused why there was no press when it's supposed to be his main thing, and we saw clear evidence of it in game 1
Did anyone watch the dross Ole served us against Watford?
We played badly (nothing new there) but we at least looked ok defensively and hard working most of the time. Plus we won the Fecking game. He isn't happy but we should be happy with 3 points playing poorly.
He has as many clean sheets as Ole had in the league in just two games. We need patience and believe in this as he seems to be stirring shit up and clearly it is much needed.
Onwards and upwards.
We played badly (nothing new there) but we at least looked ok defensively and hard working most of the time. Plus we won the Fecking game. He isn't happy but we should be happy with 3 points playing poorly.
He has as many clean sheets as Ole had in the league in just two games. We need patience and believe in this as he seems to be stirring shit up and clearly it is much needed.
Onwards and upwards.
On today's evidence, let's just say I won't be surprised. Anyway, I'm just pointing out the lack of awareness of the post I was quoting. I'm no Ole-outer or Ole-inner anymore, cause it seems Ole is not manager anymore. And it seems some in the FF was thinking Rangnick is a magician who'll make United go from a low-confidence state of Ole's last month to playing 10/10 gegenpress football consistently in a week. And because today's performance happened, they don't understand what's happening and looking for who and what to blame. However tactical and great manager Rangnick might be, he'll still need a bit of time.
Umm, how is it obvious that he will not be a solution for a longer time? He is supposed to have a different role this summer, but it is also planned that he may continue as manager for a longer period of time if he is successful.
Strange isn't it. The only explanations I can think of are:
- The Palace match was just a new manager bounce (something I had suspected at the time)
- The players were too exhausted from repeated high intensity pressing drills in training to execute it on the pitch today
- Rangnick decided to just play deep and abandon his preferred pressing tactics
I get that it's going to take a while for RR's tactics to set in and that today shouldn't be an indictment whatsoever, but it is very strange that we didn't even attempt to press when we've seen that this exact team is capable of it.
He laid the foundations for our future success
All in all, two PL wins in a row, in December during a hectic period, whilst trying to implement an entirely unfamiliar system. I guess we should have expected the teething. But at least the teething is 6 points in 6.
With two clean sheets, after not having a clean sheet this decade
True. It’s now just working on it. Like it wasn’t before
Yes, watched it. It was terrible. Just like today. Defensively ok? We where lucky we didn’t get stuffed. De Gea and a penalty is what saved us.. I’m reading so much shit on here. About Ole, Rangnick, our coaches and so on.. Players need to step up. End of.
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