Ralf Rangnick | Austria manager

evil_geko said:
Still done a brilliant job, deserved to go through.
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This. Austria was a mess when he picked them up.
Turkey’s two corners won it. Austria was all over there and another day would have won, as the classic cliche goes.

Still topped a ridiculously tricky group.
 
Sad to see Austria go out. One of the few interesting teams this euros.
The absolute hatred for Rangnick from some in here is quite hilarious though.
 
Adnan said:
Rangnick's tactics are completely suited to the player that is limited in ability because he prioritises high intensity and high work rate with the aim of going vertical at every opportunity with the ball. And Turkey are a decent team and apart from having a few star players who made the difference they aren't anything special imo. But I must say, their fullback Kadioglu, has looked like one of the surprises of the tournament so far, such high technical quality on the ball with fantastic carrying ability. I'd never heard of him before but he was born in Holland, so we may sign him..:)
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Thought the same thing last night, and although he played in a back 5, he played the role of a normal full back really and carried the ball really well.
 
When a coach starts ranting about their past achievements you know they're done.
 
As far as I know, the president let go of some managers who were popular with the staff and players. A reform that wasn’t really needed and shifted the balance of power. There also wasn’t much communication with RR about extending his contract.

I’m really annoyed, as things looked great on the pitch, and now this…
 
Sir Erik ten Hag said:
What's the context?
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Few quotes from reddit thread.
There's currently a fight going on between the President Klaus Mitterndorfer and manager Rangnick + the players. Mitterndorfer for some reason insists on firing business executive (Geschäftsführer) Bernard Neuhold which the players and Rangnick can't understand in the slightest. Mitterndorfer repeatedly said he understands they (Rangnick and players) want to defend their friend (Neuhold), but he needs to go. I, personally, haven't understand yet either why exactly Neuhold has to be sacked from his position. Mitterndorfer said in an interview a few days ago that he had a talk with Rangnick last week.
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Rangnick took over the NT but the FA are not happy because he isn't a "yes man" that just bows down to their demands. Which poses a problem to the people in charge of the FA, they feel threatened.

Because Rangnick is actually competent and has build quite a good team. That has resulted in support from both players and fans, and now he has the popularity to opposed the FA.

So the FA is trying to cover their arse and have started to sabotage Rangnick. They are leaking stories trying to sow unrest in the group and to make it look like he favours certain people. They have also sacked one of the people Rangnick worked well with. Rangnick is understandably unhappy and has started firing back.
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Its so sad if the ÖFB finds a way to feck this up and make rangnick leave after our beautiful EURO tournament (albeit with a bitter ending but the improvement was clear to see).

I dont think we will ever get a manager remotely as good as him unless Hasenhüttl,Hütter or Glasner ever decide to manage the National Team but I dont see that happening anytime soon
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I don’t know about my fellow Benfica supporters but this guy would do wonders in our club if the people in charge gave him the control he desired.

I actually like him a lot, seems to me the kind of guy that takes no bs
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ragnick with full power on football team can handle the team. Sad glazers didn't want to work with him
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if this eejit makes Ralf leave because of some personal vendetta I'm fuming, just let him cook man
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THere's a post explaining it from their fans POV, but yeh, just ignore it and keep with personal extreme bias.
 
No Idea For Nickname said:
Few quotes from reddit thread.
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There is more in that first quote. Here it is in full:

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There's currently a fight going on between the President Klaus Mitterndorfer and manager Rangnick + the players. Mitterndorfer for some reason insists on firing business executive (Geschäftsführer) Bernard Neuhold which the players and Rangnick can't understand in the slightest. Mitterndorfer repeatedly said he understands they (Rangnick and players) want to defend their friend (Neuhold), but he needs to go. I, personally, haven't understand yet either why exactly Neuhold has to be sacked from his position. Mitterndorfer said in an interview a few days ago that he had a talk with Rangnick last week.

Rangnick at press conference around the Slovenia game:

Look, the 6 years in Hoffenheim, 2 promotions with a club who many years was buried deep in amateur football, 3 promotions in 4 years with Leipzig and the complete transformation of a club like Salzburg, who before was the epitome of a troop of mercenaries before I came, and within 2 years we had one of the sexiest, most exciting teams in Europe.

Does anybody in this room here seriously believe that this would have been possible if I practiced nepotism, patronage and all that? [shakes his head] That would have been impossible. Therefore, I can only repeat and this applies to my team as well, for us the performance principle counts and if someone makes a really good job or not. And Bernhard Neuhold is doing a really good job and that's also the reason why the team and I stated that he either has to stay or if he can't or isn't allowed to stay that we get an equivalent - makes no sense equivalent because then he could stay anyway - or a better replacement. I don't see anywhere a better replacement and I also wouldn't know who should have spoken to a better replacement already because I know from nothing. I can only say again: The president and I have for 10 weeks, since the presidium meeting zero contact [makes a zero with his hand]. Cero. Not at all. And because of that it has suprised me lot when he said we had a good, close, trustful relation [shrugs his shoulders]. I can only say since that presidium meeting we have no relation at all.
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This is no reason for Rangnick to leave his job though. An excerpt from ORF article:

However, concerns that he might quit his job due to Neuhold's impending departure are misplaced. “Nobody would believe that I turned down two concrete offers on May 1 and opted for Austria, that I would consider giving up the whole thing because of something like that. Nobody would understand that, and the connection to the team, the staff and also the country of Austria is too extraordinary.”
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That is why he will “certainly not” think about leaving the ÖFB, Rangnick emphasized. “But that doesn't mean we'll say yes and amen to everything that happens.”
 
Hoffenheim and Leipzig are nothing to be proud of, nor are any of the Red Bull franchises.

He failed big-time at his biggest job and is now lashing out about his illusory record from the sidelines.

Sad to see what we can do to people but sometimes it is needed.
 
Crostien said:
Hoffenheim and Leipzig are nothing to be proud of, nor are any of the Red Bull franchises.

He failed big-time at his biggest job and is now lashing out about his illusory record from the sidelines.

Sad to see what we can do to people but sometimes it is needed.
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What a wild take
 
Crostien said:
He failed big-time at his biggest job and is now lashing out about his illusory record from the sidelines.
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Illusory record? He literally created the current Austrian football from the ground up (by means of controlling Red Bull football and influencing the whole country). There is no other national team manager in any somewhat relevant country who can say that about his players - that they were brought up in a system he envisioned.

And considering the size of the task, the interim job at United was one of his smallest jobs. It just happened to be at the biggest club he worked for and yes it didn't go well, but that takes nothing from his ability and record to build club structures and even reshape a whole country.
 
Acrobat7 said:
IoI, what?! :lol: I am glad that idiot didn't become Bayern's coach and I was shocked he was even considered. But good talk.
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This. And you wont hear many people voicing a different opinion on that in the Kurve.

I know this is hard to understand for people not familiar with the countries and sometimes even for those who are, but power politics in Austria are something very unique and very hard to read for us Piefkes :D
 
ArbeitervonWien said:
OK, so if that's not the reason, why do you consider him a power-hungry asshole and idiot?
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If his CV of the last 25 years with such illustrious stops as Hoffenheim, Red Bull and Lokomotiv Moscow doesn't give you any clues as to why I think so, then there's not much I can do.
 
Acrobat7 said:
If his CV of the last 25 years with such illustrious stops as Hoffenheim, Red Bull and Lokomotiv Moscow doesn't give you any clues as to why I think so, then there's not much I can do.
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I mean I get not wanting Rangnick, but this surely means you're devastated Kompany got the job?
 
Acrobat7 said:
If his CV of the last 25 years with such illustrious stops as Hoffenheim, Red Bull and Lokomotiv Moscow doesn't give you any clues as to why I think so, then there's not much I can do.
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It gives me no clue about him beeing an power-hungry asshole or idiot. So where comes this hatred from? Don't know much about his jobs before, but he did really well at RB and with the austrian NT.
 
hellhunter said:
I mean I get not wanting Rangnick, but this surely means you're devastated Kompany got the job?
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"Devastated" is a bit much, but the football romantic in me would be happy if the links to commercial football products were kept to a minimum. Pep's move to City - although predictable - also disappointed me.
I also differentiate somewhat between footballers on the one hand and coaches/officials on the other.

And as for my personal dislike of Rangnick: I know people who have worked with him.
 
Acrobat7 said:
"Devastated" is a bit much, but the football romantic in me would be happy if the links to commercial football products were kept to a minimum. Pep's move to City - although predictable - also disappointed me.
I also differentiate somewhat between footballers on the one hand and coaches/officials on the other.

And as for my personal dislike of Rangnick: I know people who have worked with him.
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Spill the beans. I’ve also heard bad stuff about him. He must be incredibly difficult to work with and has a bad temper.
 
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