Ralf Rangnick | Austria manager

Sky1981 said:
They're winning 11 trot. It's just a blip to lose one season. They're doing a great job dont you think?
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I'd say there's a fair argument that Bayern haven't been quite where they want to be last few seasons? Particularly in Europe.

Even this season they're through in the CL but the performances have not been that amazing, they set a very high bar and only won the title on GD last season, this season they've lost it and a team is on course for going unbeaten with far less money than them.
 
Sky1981 said:
They're winning 11 trot. It's just a blip to lose one season. They're doing a great job dont you think?
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They reached their peak under Heynckes and maintained that under Pep. They are slowly but continuously getting worse (with the exception of Flick's purple patch). The current squad is the weakest Bayern had in a long time and so far their search for a new manager doesn't look like a great job - on the contrary, every favourite candidate so far went public and made a point of staying were he is (Alonso, Nagelsmann, Hoeneß, even Rangnick already did it a few weeks ago, but the situation might change there if Bayern can't get their favoured choices).

They need a massively successful transfer summer to get back on track to ensure the current season really is just a blip.
 
Sky1981 said:
They're winning 11 trot. It's just a blip to lose one season. They're doing a great job dont you think?
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They've became complacent since winning that treble during 19/20. They have spent a lot of money on players and haven't gotten close to winning another CL since it. Semi-finalists this season, to be fair to them.

They only won The Bundesliga due to Dortmund bottling on the final day last season. Leverkusen could set a new record 92 points if they win their remaining games. Even some of Bayern's greatest sides would struggle with the pace Leverkusen have set. But this decline has been coming.
 
Samid said:
FC Bayern is now in actual negotiations with Ralf Rangnick. He is to become the new coach - Plan C after the rejections of Xabi Alonso and Julian Nagelsmann. Roberto de Zerbi, on the other hand, remains only an outside candidate.
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Who is that guy? Never heard of him.

Alonso has been the favorite and everybody was behind him.
Nagelsmann was a candidate and Eberl talked with him. However, there were voice critical of a reappointment of Nagelsmann just after a year. Allegedly Rummenigge had concerns. Nagelsmann never got an offer and thus couldn't reject Bayern. He just decided to extend with the national team.


stefan92 said:
There are a lot of different rumours coming from Munich which either means the media have no clue what is going on, or that all the reports are actually true and different people at the club favour different managers.
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Exactly. I think with Freund and Eberl the press is left fishing in the dark. As a consequence various names (Zidane, Emery, Rangnick or even Demichaelis and Lucien Favre for 1 year and then Klopp) are discussed.
I trust Eberl has a clear plan and will soon come up with the new Bayern coach.
 
Would love him at Munich but this is a disaster waiting to happen. Not to do with Ralfs managerial capabilities because I think he's a good manager but rather because he's someone who will want control over signings and the direction of the team. That can be very different to the rest of the board, who themselves have a massive ego and this will lead to issues.
 
Samid said:
He was interim manager at United for half a season. Probably the worst manager we ever had, until this season.
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Good one.:lol:

Anyway, I don't think Rangnick will be a great fit. Bayern isn't a counter pressing and quick transition team, which is Rangnick's preferred style of football.
 
André Dominguez said:
Why would Bayern appoint him? The only thing in his favour is that he speaks german.
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Let's have a look at the rumoured candidates/favourites and what they did after they were first mentioned as candidates

Alonso? Confirmed to stay in Leverkusen
Hoeneß? Extented his contract in Stuttgart
Nagelsmann? Extented his contract with Germany
Tuchel? Confirmed that he will definitely leave, no matter what (yes that was seriously asked in a press conference)
Emery? Extented his contract with Villa
Zidane? Only "big name" so far about whom Bayern clearly claimed not to be a candidate.
 
stefan92 said:
Let's have a look at the rumoured candidates/favourites and what they did after they were first mentioned as candidates

Alonso? Confirmed to stay in Leverkusen
Hoeneß? Extented his contract in Stuttgart
Nagelsmann? Extented his contract with Germany
Tuchel? Confirmed that he will definitely leave, no matter what (yes that was seriously asked in a press conference)
Emery? Extented his contract with Villa
Zidane? Only "big name" so far about whom Bayern clearly claimed not to be a candidate.
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Isn't Heynckes still alive?
 
Another one for the cult people of hammering managers and coaches, and those who believe changing a manager changes everything.

Doing a great job with austria and in talks with one of biggest clubs in the world. Maybe, just maybe, its not ALL always the manager. People don't want to learn though, boot ten hag, hire the next patsy and recycle
 
stefan92 said:
Let's have a look at the rumoured candidates/favourites and what they did after they were first mentioned as candidates

Alonso? Confirmed to stay in Leverkusen
Hoeneß? Extented his contract in Stuttgart
Nagelsmann? Extented his contract with Germany
Tuchel? Confirmed that he will definitely leave, no matter what (yes that was seriously asked in a press conference)
Emery? Extented his contract with Villa
Zidane? Only "big name" so far about whom Bayern clearly claimed not to be a candidate.
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Pretty sure Hoeneß extending his contract wont mean much if Bayern is willing to pay for his services. Unless in Germany managers really honor their professional contracts as culture.

I guess speaking german must be a demand for the future manager, which reduces the managers pool in the market.
 
SER19 said:
Another one for the cult people of hammering managers and coaches, and those who believe changing a manager changes everything.

Doing a great job with austria and in talks with one of biggest clubs in the world. Maybe, just maybe, its not ALL always the manager. People don't want to learn though, boot ten hag, hire the next patsy and recycle
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One would hope the managerial genius that is ETH will be on their list seeing that he has one year left and by all account we have not committed to him but no, they are not linked.
Most fans wanted Ragnick to remain in some capacity because he says what most of us think.
 
SER19 said:
Another one for the cult people of hammering managers and coaches, and those who believe changing a manager changes everything.

Doing a great job with austria and in talks with one of biggest clubs in the world. Maybe, just maybe, its not ALL always the manager. People don't want to learn though, boot ten hag, hire the next patsy and recycle
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Except it works for Bayern and everyone else.

There's only a select few on the list of managers who spent more than 3 years in top club.
 
E-mal said:
One would hope the managerial genius that is ETH will be on their list seeing that he has one year left and by all account we have not committed to him but no, they are not linked.
Most fans wanted Ragnick to remain in some capacity because he says what most of us think.
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We havent actually prove him wrong. His assesment while brutal looks bang on
 
SER19 said:
Another one for the cult people of hammering managers and coaches, and those who believe changing a manager changes everything.

Doing a great job with austria and in talks with one of biggest clubs in the world. Maybe, just maybe, its not ALL always the manager. People don't want to learn though, boot ten hag, hire the next patsy and recycle
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Agreed, we should've given Ron Atkinson more time
 
Sky1981 said:
Except it works for Bayern and everyone else.

There's only a select few on the list of managers who spent more than 3 years in top club.
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It really doesnt. Chelsea have had several car crash managers for example, and bayerns league dominance isnt a good comparison with how it would work elsewhere. Plenty of big clubs change manager often and its a disaster under some. There are countless examples. In any case, Im not making an argument for blindly sticking with a manager - Im just tired of how extreme people will go in their criticism of a manager as if it's incomprehensible they are our manager. Solskjaer was a PE teacher, Rangnick wasnt even a coach, now Ten Hag is the latest 'fraud.' Only now Bayern Munich want Rangnick and hes doing a great job with austria, and Ten Hag would absolutely be wanted by some big teams should he leave here. I dont like how people let their frustrations become so focused on one individual, sometimes to the point of real bitterness/hatred, whoever it may be, especially when weve done this over and over again.
 
I can see why Rangnick wants complete control, his style simply isn't suited to the current Bayern squad and I can't see him being very successful with the current group. Very odd.

I expected Bayern to find a coach more in line with the player profiles at the Allianz. Can we really see a 4-2-2-2 hard pressing XI emerging from this Bayern squad..?
 
André Dominguez said:
Pretty sure Hoeneß extending his contract wont mean much if Bayern is willing to pay for his services. Unless in Germany managers really honor their professional contracts as culture.

I guess speaking german must be a demand for the future manager, which reduces the managers pool in the market.
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As far as I can remember there were statements that English would be sufficient since the whole squad speaks it anyways. Hence the question if Zidane speaks it.
 
Acrobat7 said:
As far as I can remember there were statements that English would be sufficient since the whole squad speaks it anyways. Hence the question if Zidane speaks it.
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Probably knows how to properly comunicate in english, but not his confort zone clearly. He answered a few questions in english on the Champions League pre-match / post-match, so should be enough to comunicate.
Not sure if some Bayern starlets will like his approach, he is clearly outspoken and has quite a strong character. Will not be every player cup of tea, that's for sure.
 
stefan92 said:
Let's have a look at the rumoured candidates/favourites and what they did after they were first mentioned as candidates

Alonso? Confirmed to stay in Leverkusen
Hoeneß? Extented his contract in Stuttgart
Nagelsmann? Extented his contract with Germany
Tuchel? Confirmed that he will definitely leave, no matter what (yes that was seriously asked in a press conference)
Emery? Extented his contract with Villa
Zidane? Only "big name" so far about whom Bayern clearly claimed not to be a candidate.
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Ten Hag may be available.
 
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