Raheem Sterling

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marjen said:
He's very talented, unfortunately. Those of you comparing him to Lennon etc will look silly.
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This.

He's already light years ahead of Lennon in pretty much every way already. Mainly because he gets his head up. Something that sounds pretty easy but given the fact Lennon and Walcott still struggle to really do it just shows how difficult it is at this level.

Raheem Sterling will go on to be one of the best players in the league. The sooner he leaves Liverpool the better.
 
#Carl said:
This.

He's already light years ahead of Lennon in pretty much every way already. Mainly because he gets his head up. Something that sounds pretty easy but given the fact Lennon and Walcott still struggle to really do it just shows how difficult it is at this level.

Raheem Sterling will go on to be one of the best players in the league. The sooner he leaves Liverpool the better.
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He's too young to say this for sure. Lots of 17,18 year old 'wonder kids' turn out to be nothing of the kind when they get to 19, 20 ..... Just ask Arsene Wenger
 
Crumpsall Red said:
He's too young to say this for sure. Lots of 17,18 year old 'wonder kids' turn out to be nothing of the kind when they get to 19, 20 ..... Just ask Arsene Wenger
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Injury permitting, that's my belief.
 
He's got much better technical ability than either Lennon or Walcott, just because he shares the "speedy" aspect to their game doesn't mean he should be tarred with the same brush. He seems like a player who, if his mentality is there, could reach very high levels whether that's at Liverpool or another club.
 
Given that he's 17 you can only say: so far, so good. Is he going to play for
England or Jamaica? Will be interesting to see who develops more quickly out of him and Chamberlain.
 
City maybe, doubt he will go for chelsea as they dont really use wingers that much and have hazard/oscar/mata. Plus he might not be willing to relocate his family at such a young age.

We have the edge against city as they dont really use wingers that much and he only has to look at sinclair,powell and moses to decide which team would be the best for him.
 
Depends if he wants money. If he wants money it will be pretty obvious if he goes to Chelsea/City/PSG etc.

If he wants game time I don't really know why he'd stall and leave but it's more than obvious he's getting game time to show that he should sign a contract. If he doesn't then he's a massive wanker.

He's got talent but I think he's massively overrated.

edit: I didn't realise he was signed from QPR by Rafa. Maybe a sneak back to Chelsea on the cards?
 
MJJ said:
Still not signed a contract...hoping that SAF turns his head. Would be perfect as a 4th choice winger.
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:lol: Why would he want to go from first choice to fourth choice? Although on a performance basis he'd be first choice here too.
 
There's a lot to like about Sterling. A shame for Liverpool FC they won't get their act together before he outgrows them and moves on to City or Chelsea. I'd take him in a heartbeat over Young but it just aint gonna happen.
 
Ekeke said:
:lol: Why would he want to go from first choice to fourth choice? Although on a performance basis he'd be first choice here too.
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I am hoping we sell young and buy two wingers with him being one of them. If everyone is playing on form he will be our fourth choice but when not he has a good chance of playing. Even as a fourth choice winger he will get plenty of games,30+ certainly.

As to why, well to answer that all he needs to do is look at stevie g's trophy cabinet. Plus, think we will be willing to pay him the 50k he wants, or close to it anyway.
 
In terms of being a threat, he did good against Tottenham. Certainly well for someone of his age. Lets see if he can keep his head in the right place and not suffer from hubris.
 
At this stage of his career he should stay with Liverpool. Guaranteed game time with no chance of relegation and a decent chance of European football each year. If he moves to City his ceiling will drop massively, at least with Chelsea you may get some games as the likes of Moses and Oscar have been doing this year (plus they're short on wingers). But I think it'd be best for him to stay at Pool for now and then leave when he's 21/22 and ready to deliver for a big club, maybe us if he's interested, not as if he he'll have any loyalty or ties to Liverpool at all.
 
MJJ said:
City maybe, doubt he will go for chelsea as they dont really use wingers that much and have hazard/oscar/mata. Plus he might not be willing to relocate his family at such a young age.

We have the edge against city as they dont really use wingers that much and he only has to look at sinclair,powell and moses to decide which team would be the best for him.
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he's a london lad, i would imagine going back south would be 'going home' for him.
 
ghaliboy said:
If he wants game time I don't really know why he'd stall and leave but it's more than obvious he's getting game time to show that he should sign a contract. If he doesn't then he's a massive wanker.

He's got talent but I think he's massively overrated.
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To be fair to him I don't think you can go around calling him a wanker for wanting to further his career. If he's a confident player then he might back himself to get a game at Chelsea or City, I'd imagine a 17 year old would probably be quite content with being a squad player for a few seasons as well with the opportunity of playing for a much better team than being stuck at Liverpool who seem to be going no where.

I do agree with your second point some what in that he is incredibly overrated at this stage of his career, my personal opinion on it is he's far to young to be playing every game but Liverpool's hand has been forced by how poor their team is. He'd probably not start this many games at another top club and be more of a squad player role. I'm sure he's enjoying it playing in the premier league every week but Liverpool tend to have a habit of getting these players through and running them in the ground by the time they're 26 they've peaked as a footballer.
 
At 17 he still lacks end product, badly. He is a fantastic prospect though and could go on to be a top level player IMO.

Liverpool is a good side for him at the moment. He would not get near our first team very often. That said, I think that we should be trying to sign him.
 
ghaliboy said:
Oh look, someone is spouting this ballbag of shite again.
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Well, he isn't the only one who thinks that. Wont be happening though, at least until the summer if he doesn't buck up his ideas, then Fergie may take a cut price deal and flog him. I don't know who would offer silly wages though, Young might be content to stay for the long haul even if he isn't playing often.
 
Sterling being warned and pressured to sign a new contract which will pay him £20k/w. I think his advisors are demanding closer to 50k/w which is less than what downing and henderson are drawing. Can't blame him if he wants that much when you start comparing within the team lol.
 
he may only be 17 but he's shown he is effective already.

Tough scenario but he's clearly a big talent.

If pool can pay muppets like Carroll downing and Henderson what they earn, this kid deserves it.
 
Ronnie O'Sullivan said:
Sterling being warned and pressured to sign a new contract which will pay him £20k/w. I think his advisors are demanding closer to 50k/w which is less than what downing and henderson are drawing. Can't blame him if he wants that much when you start comparing within the team lol.
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One more potential way that Kenny Dalglish will have fecked the club up..

The stink of his recent reign is difficult to wash off
 
I'd take him in a heartbeart. Basically does exactly what we wanted from Lucas, except he's English and not ludicrously expensive. Win.
 
Drainy said:
not going to happen. If he leaves it will be for City or possibly Chelsea
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I've seen a lot of this kind of post lately. Why would a brilliant young talent disregard United?
 
Brwned said:
I'd take him in a heartbeart. Basically does exactly what we wanted from Lucas, except he's English and not ludicrously expensive. Win.
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He has the potential to be a very good winger. Maybe not very productive at the moment, but then again this season our wide men have struggled to create too.

Not sure what his contract situation is, does it expire this season or next?

Obviously there's no chance in hell that they would ever sell to us, or agree a fee rather than through a tribunal- which considering he is an England international at 17 I could see the fee being fairly sizeable, but not so large as to be a problem.

I'm sure that he will have a choice of clubs if he decides to leave Liverpool, at City and Chelsea they will probably offer him more than United would (We offer him more than the £20k Liverpool are and Nick Powell will probably feel a little grieved by his alleged £5k wage) and he while he'd get shit from the scousers for leaving, it would be nothing compared to what he'd get for joining United.
 
MJJ said:
I am hoping we sell young and buy two wingers with him being one of them. If everyone is playing on form he will be our fourth choice but when not he has a good chance of playing. Even as a fourth choice winger he will get plenty of games,30+ certainly.

As to why, well to answer that all he needs to do is look at stevie g's trophy cabinet. Plus, think we will be willing to pay him the 50k he wants, or close to it anyway.
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Zero chance of us selling Young. Fergie likes his wingers though and with Nani seemingly on the way out there's space for 1 or 2 more.
 
shaggy said:
At this stage of his career he should stay with Liverpool. Guaranteed game time with no chance of relegation and a decent chance of European football each year. If he moves to City his ceiling will drop massively, at least with Chelsea you may get some games as the likes of Moses and Oscar have been doing this year (plus they're short on wingers). But I think it'd be best for him to stay at Pool for now and then leave when he's 21/22 and ready to deliver for a big club, maybe us if he's interested, not as if he he'll have any loyalty or ties to Liverpool at all.
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Ahhh the famous RedCafé ceiling of potential ability.

I agree Liverpool is a good club for him at the moment. He'd get plenty of games at United too though.
 
Jimy_Hills_Chin said:
At 17 he still lacks end product, badly. He is a fantastic prospect though and could go on to be a top level player IMO.

Liverpool is a good side for him at the moment. He would not get near our first team very often. That said, I think that we should be trying to sign him.
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For a 17 year old his final ball and end product is very good actually. Granted it's still on the poor side for someone at their peak but for his age I think he's fantastic.
 
No real chance of us getting him unless Liverpool are stupid enough not to sell him next summer(In the event that he wont extend his contract). I could easily see him joining us if Liverpool let his contract run out. But I think even they arent stupid enough to let it happen.
 
Rodgers seems to be calling him out in the media, which can be a bit risky with young players and their agents. I suspect he'll end up with more than £20k p/w and less than £50k p/w and then get a new contract again in 12-18 months if he keeps improving.
 
#Carl said:
I've seen a lot of this kind of post lately. Why would a brilliant young talent disregard United?
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There are a few reasons this particular brilliant young talent might disregard United. First of all he's under contract with Liverpool, they'd be very reluctant to giv eus one of their brightest stars, second if he's leaving Liverpool he's leaving for the money, Chelsea and Manchester City pay their players more than we pay our players and Arsenal pay their young players more than we do, third he's spent a lot of his life in London, he might want to go back.
 
Another reason he might not want to come to us is not to be a dead man in Liverpool where I am assuming a large section of his harem lives.
 
kietotheworld said:
There are a few reasons this particular brilliant young talent might disregard United. First of all he's under contract with Liverpool, they'd be very reluctant to giv eus one of their brightest stars, second if he's leaving Liverpool he's leaving for the money, Chelsea and Manchester City pay their players more than we pay our players and Arsenal pay their young players more than we do, third he's spent a lot of his life in London, he might want to go back.
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Well I wasn't being specific to Sterling. I've seen that kind of post when talking about loads of players lately. It doesn't make sense to me. There's been plenty times in the last few years when players have chosen us over others (and the offer of more money).

But being specific to Sterling, why wouldn't he chose United? You say if he leaves Liverpool it's for money. Why is that so? Maybe he wants to play for a side that aren't 4 points away from the relegation zone (snigger).

Why would he chose Chelsea? Anyone with half a brain can see their focus isn't wingplay. Also, he's unlikely to get games ahead of Mata, Hazard, Oscar. Plus they have Moses, Marin and Sturridge.

Why would he choose City? He only has too look at what happened to Adam Johnson and what is happening to Scott Sinclair. Plus, like with Chelsea, wingplay isn't really their style.

I will say I don't think there's any chance of him coming here yet. But the theory he'd disregard United, a club with a history of bringing through young players and a focus on wingplay, is a bit daft.
 
VoetbalWizard said:
he's a london lad, i would imagine going back south would be 'going home' for him.
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Didnt he leave london when he was 14 or something? I would imagine his whole family relocated with him so might be reluctant to go again if they like it there.
#Carl said:
Zero chance of us selling Young. Fergie likes his wingers though and with Nani seemingly on the way out there's space for 1 or 2 more.
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If we do sell nani, we would have to sign another first team winger as young isnt good enough. If we do sell young we can get sterling to replace his role with kagawa being the fourth winger.

Drainy said:
He has the potential to be a very good winger. Maybe not very productive at the moment, but then again this season our wide men have struggled to create too.

Not sure what his contract situation is, does it expire this season or next?

Obviously there's no chance in hell that they would ever sell to us, or agree a fee rather than through a tribunal- which considering he is an England international at 17 I could see the fee being fairly sizeable, but not so large as to be a problem.

I'm sure that he will have a choice of clubs if he decides to leave Liverpool, at City and Chelsea they will probably offer him more than United would (We offer him more than the £20k Liverpool are and Nick Powell will probably feel a little grieved by his alleged £5k wage) and he while he'd get shit from the scousers for leaving, it would be nothing compared to what he'd get for joining United.
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IIRC we are paying jones close to 50k and his situation is a lot similar to sterling than someone like powell's.
 
MJJ said:
If we do sell nani, we would have to sign another first team winger as young isnt good enough. If we do sell young we can get sterling to replace his role with kagawa being the fourth winger.
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Keep ruddy forgetting about Kagz.
 
#Carl said:
Well I wasn't being specific to Sterling. I've seen that kind of post when talking about loads of players lately. It doesn't make sense to me. There's been plenty times in the last few years when players have chosen us over others (and the offer of more money).
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This year in particular the two high profile young players we went for turned us down to go to more high paying clubs. It's normal that people are a bit more pessimistic about our chances of attracting young players.

But being specific to Sterling, why wouldn't he chose United? You say if he leaves Liverpool it's for money. Why is that so? Maybe he wants to play for a side that aren't 4 points away from the relegation zone (snigger).

Why would he chose Chelsea? Anyone with half a brain can see their focus isn't wingplay. Also, he's unlikely to get games ahead of Mata, Hazard, Oscar. Plus they have Moses, Marin and Sturridge.

Why would he choose City? He only has too look at what happened to Adam Johnson and what is happening to Scott Sinclair. Plus, like with Chelsea, wingplay isn't really their style.

I will say I don't think there's any chance of him coming here yet. But the theory he'd disregard United, a club with a history of bringing through young players and a focus on wingplay, is a bit daft.
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First of all I don't think Liverpool would even give him the choice, they'd rather let him walk than give him to us, but let's say he did, there are still reasons why he'd choose either of those two clubs ahead of us. Both Chelsea and City lack wingers, he might see that as a plus - there'll be a less competition if the next manager does decide to switch to wingers (and it wouldn't surprise me at all if those two managerial positions are open in June).

At United there is a lot of competition for him, he'd be asking himself when he'd get a game between Kagawa, Nani, Giggs, Young and Valencia, that's assuming United continue to play with wingers, Ferguson seems to be moving away from that more than ever and like with Chelsea and City, it'd be no surprise if the manager was gone shortly, who knows how the new manager will set his team out? There are also a couple of highly rated young wingers who've come to United and not done all that well despite a lot of raving about how Ferguson would turn them into football Gods, one of them can't get into the Carling Cup team at the moment and the other's name seems to be filth at the moment.

And of course, there's also the more obvious answer to why he would sign for Chelsea or City - to become extremely wealthy. I say he's leaving Liverpool for the money because he's still involved in contract negotiations there, he should be moving to a better team, he's certainly capable, but he's happy to stay if the price is right. That show me that his bank account is a priority for him.
 
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