Because he was MOTM in the match, and our current RB was directly at fault for 2 goals in our last loss.
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Better manager than LvG had him playing that role for a number of years. Our best only right back.
No he wasnt, Jones should have thrown his head to that ball rather than stick out a leg and try control it.
Its very easy to put a weak player in the team when you have very good defenders VDS,Vidic,Ferdinand and Evra in the team to cover his mistakes.
A weak player? Okay then.
I said in the matchday thread, but I am quite surprised that LVG doesnt see fit to even give Rafael a chance. Valencia hasnt been anything special, you would think that Rafael might get a bit of gametime - even just some sub appearances.
To not give him any gametime whatsoever just seems a bit off, even for a "doesnt rate him" situation. Furthermore it means that if/when we do ship Rafael out, we will likely get a meagre fee for him (£5m max?) - if we are planning on selling him we should at least try to put him in the shop window a bit.
To not give him any gametime whatsoever just seems a bit off, even for a "doesnt rate him" situation. Furthermore it means that if/when we do ship Rafael out, we will likely get a meagre fee for him (£5m max?) - if we are planning on selling him we should at least try to put him in the shop window a bit.
When does his contract end?
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2016
I don't mind Valencia starting ahead of him, as he played well when Rafael was injured. However McNair? LVG taking the piss tbh
Except he bought Rojo....
I bet the actual number of games he's been unavailable for this season is really small.
IIRC, he's hardly dribbled or ventured forward since his first few games.
What pisses me off more than him not playing, even though he's the best RB we have, is that we're going to show him the door and spend near 30 Million to buy someone else when we just don't have to. It's up for debate whose better, but take your pick between Clyne or Coleman and the only major selling point is their injury record vs Rafael's. But if that's the case we might as well sell half our team if that's the reason for replacing players. And there's no guarantees that they stay fit either. Luke Shaw was a constant in Southamptons XI and look what's happened.
Well,we didn't exactly have too many natural right backs to choose from..
Our transfer policy has been a shambles since Sir Alex and Gill left.
We didn't need too many! He was deemed good enough.
Valencia looked like a fish out of water, and it looked like Arsenal targeted him with Sanchez running at him. i don't blame Valencia though, I blame the manager. The warning signs were there before Arsenal scored. LVG didn't do feck all to stop it. Why not? I really want to know!!
Yeah or Maybe there was "no value in the market" for a right back
In all honesty, I feel as if LVG just doesn't rate him. This inability to stay fit non-sense if spouting by posters who don't know feck all. If that were true then the likes of Jones or Smalling wouldn't walk right back into the side the moment the become fit again.
It's nonsense spouted by people who just don't rate Rafael. LVG clearly thinks he's not good enough or else he would play, thats one of LVG's most glaring mistakes if I'm being totally honest.
The lad is still the best fullback at the club.
Edit - Even Shaw has been finding it difficult to stay fit, but that doesn't stop him from starting at LB the moment he is available.
It's nonsense spouted by people who just don't rate Rafael. LVG clearly thinks he's not good enough or else he would play, thats one of LVG's most glaring mistakes if I'm being totally honest.
The lad is still the best fullback at the club.
Edit - Even Shaw has been finding it difficult to stay fit, but that doesn't stop him from starting at LB the moment he is available.
Have you already forgotten how often Fergie played Jones or Smalling ahead of Rafael at right back? Did he have a problem with flair too? Come on, you're better than this.
Rafael was a young player, sometimes injured, Jones and Smallkng needing game time also, years ago it was often about rotation with them at RB as they needed to play with Rio, Vidic and Evans playing at CB.
Rafael was Fergie's RB, it was just at a time where he had to mix it around.
You can't just compare it like for like though. Jones and Smalling go straight back in after injury because there is no else there to play. One of Jones, Smalling, and Evans have to play, all of which are injury prone. Shaw as well, there is no replacement for him. His back-ups are Rojo and Blind who van Gaal and everyone prefers at CB and CM. Rafael however has Valencia who never gets injured and van Gaal clearly rates. There is someone there to take Rafael's spot whereas there just isn't anyone there to take Smalling, Jones or Shaw's spots.
I've gotten sick of his injuries but I still think he is better than Valencia and he hasn't been fit for a month now in which I would have liked to see him played.
It was already shite, when they were around.
Valencia is more disciplined than rafa. Hes less of a loose canon. not saying i agree but lvg loves solid disciplined players. Valencia didn't show it monday night but rafaels flair and aggression has cost him his place in my opinion.
Rafael was always his first choice when available.
I read on a recent thread on LvG's philosophy by a Dutch poster he does not permit risks/flair at the back. I can't think of any other reason why he doesn't get game time despite not having a right-back in the squad.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/louis-van-gaals-tactics.402215/
Glad he played well. Really hope he gets one more chance before the end of the season.
Rojo is more prone to moments of extreme risk than Rafael.
This is all idiocy. We're not talking about Rafael being dropped for a less risky RB but almost as good competitor. He's been dropped for an out of position winger.
He played very well last night but I think people overreacted over it.Herrera,Carrick also dominated the game when they play down and McNair looks like Carlos in his last U21s game as a right back.Still I reckon Valencia would still look average if he did have to play down.
I'll mention it again, maybe he was the one getting the filmed blowjob in the toilets? That might explain why he has been treat as he has, punishment. As far as LvG not liking risk takers at the back, that seems hard to imagine given he's regularly picked Jones and Rojo, both of whom are always near a moment of rashness.
It was worse.
No he wasn't. Surely you can remember all the moaning on the many occasions he was dropped for Jones or Smalling? It was a regular occurrence.
For a manager who allegedly won't permit risks/flair at the back did it occur to you how often Young and Valencia (former wingers) have played at fullback when we've almost never seen central defenders asked to play that position* (something Fergie often did)
* Rojo being the only exception but he's as much of a fullback as he is a centre half.
As I mentioned earlier, I think you have to look at that RB/Rafa/Jones/Smalling situation more in depth rather than a player didn't play = they were dropped. All young players, fitness issues, needing games etc. I would bet my right nut that if you asked Fergie who his best option at RB was, it would have been Rafael without question.
To be fair Sir Alex also said that Jones might go on to be the best United player ever.
Rafael is by far, the best right back we have. This isn't even debatable.
All those potential reasons were discussed to death at the time. Probably the only time Fergie himself gave a reason was when he said he wanted more height in defence.
He was unquestionably first choice, Fergie just opted for the extra height in certain games.
I cant believe any united fan believes Valencia is a better choice than Rafa, some just want to support the manager over every little issue and its absurd.
I cant believe any united fan believes Valencia is a better choice than Rafa, some just want to support the manager over every little issue and its absurd.
It's really very simple. Rafael was poor for most of last season (which Giggs will have told Van Gaal) was a bit hit and miss when he's played this season, got injured, then Valencia's done very well in his absence and hasn't deserved to be dropped.
Personally, I'd like to see Valencia and Rafael play on our right flank. That's been our best combination in recent years. Valencia and Di Maria doesn't work well at all, as Di Mari doesn't seem to know or care enough to defend. Rafael and Di Maria together would be an utter disaster.
Personally, I'd like to see Valencia and Rafael play on our right flank. That's been our best combination in recent years. Valencia and Di Maria doesn't work well at all, as Di Mari doesn't seem to know or care enough to defend. Rafael and Di Maria together would be an utter disaster.
he was quite good till November, the only player who seemed not to be affected by Moyes apart from Rooney, then he got injured and he got bitten by the bug which bit the rest of the team. You can't be taking last season as a barometer of anything as apart from Rooney, Januzaj and De Gea, no one comes out of it well and even if that was the case Valencia should be no where near the team
And Valencia has been clogging up the right-flank, without adding anything in attack. The last time Rafael played, our play down the right-side was transformed.
Do you really believe what you are saying or you are trying to make a case for LvG and defend his actions
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